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i did a little digging and found the following. i have no idea to what extent the person at the other end of that email address is responsible for handling feedback to sexualityandu.ca but sogc.org has that person as the contact.
sogc.org
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postal: 780 Echo Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1S 5R7
telephone: 1.800.561.2416, 613.730.4192
fax: 613.730.4314
web contact: eugénie doré, edore@sogc.com
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"...in life the man is always said to seduce the woman. But this is not the case but is rather
an expression for the cunning of woman; she seduces so cunningly that the nice fellow, man, always takes on the appearance of being the seducer."
Soren Kierkegaard
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by Anonymous User on Friday November 30, @11:36PM EST (#3)
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That is an AWESOME quote!!!
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In this website here is their stance on sexual coercion
I won't go into the obvious bias here but here is some information to arm yourselves with.
A few facts i found :
one candadian study found 22% of highschool MALES reported experiencing S.C. (rhynard, 1997)
another survery in vermont middle/high school found 10% of 10,000 sexually active boys reported experiencing S.C. (what about those not sexually active...?)(Shrier, 1998)
in three other surveys of MALE college students found between 62.1% and 93.5% reported experiencing S.C. (muehlenhard & Cook, 1988; Muehlenhard & Long, 1988; Muehlenhard, 1985)
all this can be found in Our Sexuality 7th ed. by Crooks & Baur. Which is one of the best books i have found on the subject of sexuality and sex facts. there is a bit of bias but its very minimal and the vast majority is a very balanced.
Tony H
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Thanks for any information.
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I'll pass that along to Kierkegard - when I see him. Now how about a story...
When seventeen, I visited a pal whose girl got a date for me,
and we went out for the evening. We soon paired off, and since
it was a beautiful moonlit summer night, my girl and I took a
walk. I didn't know the town and let her pick the way.
Moments later we were strolling down a deserted country
lane.
After walking about a mile she suggested that we rest under
a tree where the grass was nice and clean. I, thinking about
grass stain and chiggers (nasty little insects that live in the
grass of the Mid-West and burn like fury when they burrow
under the skin), hunted up a couple of rocks to sit on. Ignoring
hers, she flopped full length on the grass and suggested that
I do likewise. But being a stranger and on my good behavior,
I sat on the rock. Besides, I hated chiggers. I wasn't exactly a
rube, but I didn't want to get involved in anything too serious,
so I acted as though I thought her truly tired and let her rest.
She quickly recovered, and we headed back. At her front
door I figured that perhaps I'd better assert myself and steal
a goodnight kiss, as was expected from knights errant in such
circumstances. Instead of the friendly wrestle I expected, she
swung one from the hip and blacked my eye good and proper.
I didn't blame her too much. After all, it was a long walk to
waste on a guy who was so blind to his opportunities, but the
evidence next day, which I couldn't hide, branded me as a
wolf and her as a brave little girl who could protect her honor.
... I did get even with her sex during ensuing years. Whenever
boy-girl problems came to my office, I judged the gal guilty
until it was clearly proved otherwise.
Peck, Joseph H. M.D. All About Men, Prentice-Hall Inc,
Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, 1958.
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soory i got lazy and abbriviated sexual coercion. Tony H
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by Anonymous User on Sunday December 02, @05:18AM EST (#9)
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99% of sexual assaults are NOT committed by males?
Yeah...um right anything to make you guys feel better huh?
Now lets see the statistics on females who have had anal sex forced on them by their boyfriends and watch the number rise. Oh sorry, I forgot, we're not supposed to mention THAT are we? Well I know 5 already.
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Yeah...um right anything to make you guys feel better huh?
Sigh. Looks like we've got another misandrist troll.
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Sorry I don't get the sexual coercion angle. Yes, it goes on no doubt but is there any way (or reason) to compare how often it is male coercing female or female coercing male? I'm not getting the point I guess.
There are so many varying shades of "coercion" that you could end up calling a "suggestion" to have sex and turn it into "coercion". Likewise, there can be a similar fuzzy line between "coercion" and "force". AT some point each crosses over into the other but how can you quantify coercion in a way that draws a clear distinct line between them?
I'm hopeless I guess but I don't see the point in claiming "coercion" either way male to female or vis versa. What people need more is an ability to say NO and be firm about it. But in the area of sex there are always going to be emotional entanglements and doubts after the fact.
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Dear Mr. Beattie,
Thank you very much for visiting our web site, www.sexualityandu.ca I would be more than happy to receive your comments and feedback about the site. We are currently entering a revision period of the site and will be making changes to it. Any comments you send to me will be helpful.
Thank you again.
Sincerely,
Lisa Spencer
Coordinator, Contraception Awareness Project
The Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada
780 Echo Dr.
Ottawa ON K1S 5R7
Tel: 613-730-4192 x246
lspencer@sogc.com
Fax: 613-730-4314
>>> brad beattie 12/01 12:29 PM
ello there. if i am not mistaken, the website sexualityandu.ca is run by sogc.com. having browsed through it, i was looking for an email address to supply feedback to those who developed the content of the site. as far as i could see, it has no link for feedback or comments. i was wondering if there happens to be an email address of someone i may contact regarding this.
~brad beattie
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Really? You always assumed the gal guilty? Do we call that misogyny? I do.
I have one daughter and two stepsons; I would NEVER assume my girl or my boys guilty of any crime based solely on their sex, nor would I want anyone else to...which is why I found this site in the first place, to gain some perspective on raising my boys... often what I find here worries me more than helps me, such as your comment about the girl is "always" assumed guilty.
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