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Sexuality Web Site Portrays Men as Aggressors
posted by Scott on Friday November 30, @05:23PM
from the news dept.
News brad writes "Having recently read in my university's newspaper that a new major website on sexuality had been released, I decided to pop over to determine its male friendly status. All in all, it's not as bad as it could be. They acknowledge that men can be victims too. However, they seem intent on driving home the fact that men are the aggressors. On one page they admit that men are victims but the only reference they have available is for female victims. On another I came across the following tidbit: "Men commit 99% of all sexual assaults." No contact was listed on the site for feedback."

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contact address
by brad (anriel.yahoo@com) on Friday November 30, @05:46PM EST (#1)
(User #305 Info) http://www.student.math.uwaterloo.ca/~bj3beatt
i did a little digging and found the following. i have no idea to what extent the person at the other end of that email address is responsible for handling feedback to sexualityandu.ca but sogc.org has that person as the contact.

sogc.org
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postal: 780 Echo Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1S 5R7
telephone: 1.800.561.2416, 613.730.4192
fax: 613.730.4314
web contact: eugénie doré, edore@sogc.com
Men Bad, Women Good?
by Spartacus on Friday November 30, @08:50PM EST (#2)
(User #154 Info) http://www.menstribune.com
"...in life the man is always said to seduce the woman. But this is not the case but is rather
an expression for the cunning of woman; she seduces so cunningly that the nice fellow, man, always takes on the appearance of being the seducer."

Soren Kierkegaard

Re:Men Bad, Women Good?
by Anonymous User on Friday November 30, @11:36PM EST (#3)
That is an AWESOME quote!!!
Re:Men Bad, Women Good?
by Tony on Saturday December 01, @01:35AM EST (#4)
(User #363 Info)
In this website here is their stance on sexual coercion

I won't go into the obvious bias here but here is some information to arm yourselves with.

A few facts i found :
one candadian study found 22% of highschool MALES reported experiencing S.C. (rhynard, 1997)

another survery in vermont middle/high school found 10% of 10,000 sexually active boys reported experiencing S.C. (what about those not sexually active...?)(Shrier, 1998)

in three other surveys of MALE college students found between 62.1% and 93.5% reported experiencing S.C. (muehlenhard & Cook, 1988; Muehlenhard & Long, 1988; Muehlenhard, 1985)
 
all this can be found in Our Sexuality 7th ed. by Crooks & Baur. Which is one of the best books i have found on the subject of sexuality and sex facts. there is a bit of bias but its very minimal and the vast majority is a very balanced.


Tony H
What is S.C.?
by Lorianne on Saturday December 01, @03:53PM EST (#5)
(User #349 Info)
Thanks for any information.
Re:What is S.C.?
by brad (anriel.yahoo@com) on Saturday December 01, @07:29PM EST (#6)
(User #305 Info) http://www.student.math.uwaterloo.ca/~bj3beatt
sexual coersion
Re:Men Bad, Women Good?
by Spartacus on Sunday December 02, @12:34AM EST (#7)
(User #154 Info) http://www.menstribune.com
I'll pass that along to Kierkegard - when I see him. Now how about a story...

        When seventeen, I visited a pal whose girl got a date for me,
and we went out for the evening. We soon paired off, and since
it was a beautiful moonlit summer night, my girl and I took a
walk. I didn't know the town and let her pick the way.
Moments later we were strolling down a deserted country
lane.
        After walking about a mile she suggested that we rest under
a tree where the grass was nice and clean. I, thinking about
grass stain and chiggers (nasty little insects that live in the
grass of the Mid-West and burn like fury when they burrow
under the skin), hunted up a couple of rocks to sit on. Ignoring
hers, she flopped full length on the grass and suggested that
I do likewise. But being a stranger and on my good behavior,
I sat on the rock. Besides, I hated chiggers. I wasn't exactly a
rube, but I didn't want to get involved in anything too serious,
so I acted as though I thought her truly tired and let her rest.
        She quickly recovered, and we headed back. At her front
door I figured that perhaps I'd better assert myself and steal
a goodnight kiss, as was expected from knights errant in such
circumstances. Instead of the friendly wrestle I expected, she
swung one from the hip and blacked my eye good and proper.
        I didn't blame her too much. After all, it was a long walk to
waste on a guy who was so blind to his opportunities, but the
evidence next day, which I couldn't hide, branded me as a
wolf and her as a brave little girl who could protect her honor.
... I did get even with her sex during ensuing years. Whenever
boy-girl problems came to my office, I judged the gal guilty
  until it was clearly proved otherwise.

Peck, Joseph H. M.D. All About Men, Prentice-Hall Inc,
Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, 1958.

Re:What is S.C.?
by Tony on Sunday December 02, @01:47AM EST (#8)
(User #363 Info)
soory i got lazy and abbriviated sexual coercion.
Tony H
Sexual assaults
by Anonymous User on Sunday December 02, @05:18AM EST (#9)
99% of sexual assaults are NOT committed by males?
Yeah...um right anything to make you guys feel better huh?
Now lets see the statistics on females who have had anal sex forced on them by their boyfriends and watch the number rise. Oh sorry, I forgot, we're not supposed to mention THAT are we? Well I know 5 already.
Re:Sexual assaults
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Sunday December 02, @01:37PM EST (#10)
(User #187 Info) http://www.jameshanbackjr.com
Yeah...um right anything to make you guys feel better huh?

Sigh. Looks like we've got another misandrist troll.
Coercion
by Lorianne on Sunday December 02, @02:33PM EST (#11)
(User #349 Info)
Sorry I don't get the sexual coercion angle. Yes, it goes on no doubt but is there any way (or reason) to compare how often it is male coercing female or female coercing male? I'm not getting the point I guess.

There are so many varying shades of "coercion" that you could end up calling a "suggestion" to have sex and turn it into "coercion". Likewise, there can be a similar fuzzy line between "coercion" and "force". AT some point each crosses over into the other but how can you quantify coercion in a way that draws a clear distinct line between them?

I'm hopeless I guess but I don't see the point in claiming "coercion" either way male to female or vis versa. What people need more is an ability to say NO and be firm about it. But in the area of sex there are always going to be emotional entanglements and doubts after the fact.
reply to request for contact information
by brad (anriel.yahoo@com) on Tuesday December 04, @03:44PM EST (#12)
(User #305 Info) http://www.student.math.uwaterloo.ca/~bj3beatt
Dear Mr. Beattie,

Thank you very much for visiting our web site, www.sexualityandu.ca I would be more than happy to receive your comments and feedback about the site. We are currently entering a revision period of the site and will be making changes to it. Any comments you send to me will be helpful.

Thank you again.
Sincerely,

Lisa Spencer
Coordinator, Contraception Awareness Project
The Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada
780 Echo Dr.
Ottawa ON K1S 5R7
Tel: 613-730-4192 x246
lspencer@sogc.com

Fax: 613-730-4314

>>> brad beattie 12/01 12:29 PM
ello there. if i am not mistaken, the website sexualityandu.ca is run by sogc.com. having browsed through it, i was looking for an email address to supply feedback to those who developed the content of the site. as far as i could see, it has no link for feedback or comments. i was wondering if there happens to be an email address of someone i may contact regarding this.
~brad beattie


Re:Men Bad, Women Good?
by wiccid stepparent on Thursday December 06, @07:54PM EST (#13)
(User #490 Info)
Really? You always assumed the gal guilty? Do we call that misogyny? I do.

I have one daughter and two stepsons; I would NEVER assume my girl or my boys guilty of any crime based solely on their sex, nor would I want anyone else to...which is why I found this site in the first place, to gain some perspective on raising my boys... often what I find here worries me more than helps me, such as your comment about the girl is "always" assumed guilty.
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