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The stealing of this display sickens me. Now the misandrist hatemongers are portraying themselves even more as victims of the patriarchy. This act was incredibly stupid and counterproductive. I just heard an interview with the man who stole the penises and he justified his act primarily on the grounds that genitals shouldn't be displayed on public property, and he mentioned the fact that it was wrong for the library to refuse, at first, to fly the American flag.
It will be important for us to continue our protest, but at the moment I'm too sick to act. The radfems couldn't have come up with a better move for their hateful cause. Did they put him up to it?
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I agree, Thomas. Just out of curiosity, do you know what he did with the display? Did he destroy it or has it been returned?
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What is the more shocking here - the public sponsored event of placing a sexist effigy of castrated penises in a library? Or the removal of this trash with an American flag?
I bet the hypocritical feminist media will start reporting how this has victimized women... Now is the time for the the men and non-sexist women in CO to make their voices heard to the media - it isn't time to pander to the feminists by acting like this minor crime has strengthened their right to display that sexist man-hating filth.
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Apparently, he had the penises boxed up, ready to be shipped back to the display's creator, when the police arrived and arrested him.
A popular radio program, Lewis and Floorwax on 103.5 FM the Fox, did at least mention that the display was "misogynist against men." They then went on to say that most men are not rapists and it's wrong to blame all men for the crimes of some. Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, they didn't mention anything about violence by women against men and children. The guy who stole the display (I think his name is "Robert," so that's what I'll call him here.) said that, after taking the display, he went to a local biker bar and told a friend what he'd done. At first his friend didn't believe him. When Robert revealed one of the penises, his friend bought a round of drinks and gave him a hundred dollars. Apparently, the theft was quite popular at the bar. Another person has offered Robert $100 and Lewis and Floorwax have offered to start a fund (which would probably bring in a lot of money) to pay for his defense and recommended and put Robert in touch with an attorney.
If there's a trial, it might be a good venue for protests, but we'll certainly be portrayed as haters of women and children who support a felon.
This isn't over, yet, but it's going to be a lot more complicated now. When the display was there at first, it was extremely clear how wrong the library and misonginists were. Now they have their claim to victim status handed back to them on a silver platter. We need to make an even stronger display of outrage or simply crawl back into our holes.
I'll keep you posted. In the meantime, let's try to keep our heads held high.
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I agree cheddah, that we have to keep after this. The thing that bothers me is the fact that, before, there was no question that the misogynists were in the wrong. And protests were well under way. This will make it less clear, in the minds of many, just how wrong the radfems are. Nevertheless, we do have to continue this battle.
Perhaps we will just end up on opposite sides of a street shouting epithets at each other during the trial, and that won't necessarily be all bad.
We were just in such a wonderful position before this theft.
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I'll keep you posted. In the meantime, let's try to keep our heads held high.
Agreed, and FWIW, if this fellow has radio personalities supporting him, then it's not a far stretch to say that he'll probably have a large number of their listeners supporting him.
Here in Tennessee, we had several radio stations band together to protest a proposed state income tax a while back. They've successfully banded together the citizens of the state twice in a row, fighting down the income tax.
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"before, there was no question that the misogynists were in the wrong."
FYI Misandry = men hating
Misogyny = women hating
Just clearing things up.
Ched
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I can see where this man's actions can serve to substantiate feminists' claims of social persecution. Still, it's outrageous to me that even they would dare raise such a claim in the event of this one isolated incident of rebellion (which, by the way, the guy passed off as an objection to indecency - not feminism). It would seem to me that any well-versed anti-feminist could make a persuasive counter-claim that if society were really so hellbent in censoring radical feminism (and this was a radical feminist exhibit, no question), then what of the publication of books and interviews by (not to mention the generally high profiles permitted to) such moderate thinkers as Andrea Dworkin, Germaine Greer, Marilyn French and Catherine MacKinnon? And I won't even try to summarize the extent to which traces of radical feminism have become inherent in virtually all other areas of our mainstream media.
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cursed drunken fool
slumbering, slobbering, dimwit tool of the matriarchate
tool you will remain, then, snotnose biker boy
i’ll see you down the road
this was my concern – i didn’t want to mention it, for fear of giving the wrong folks ideas
this was my spur for moving quickly – though i expected that as dissent rose, the fems eventually would remove the exhibit during off-hours and then claim it was stolen (by abusive males, of course)
we have been out-maneuvered again – the last thing i wanted was this exhibit torn down or removed – now the misandrists are confirmed, yet again, in their pan-victimization, and the cage is shut even more tightly than before
why wasn’t i informed of this exhibit when it first went up? i can’t be everywhere at once
we sat around with our thumbs up our butts while the keys to our cell were laid in our hands
what’s it going to take for us to realize that real-life, real-time war has been, is, and will continue to be waged against us -- and that we cannot take action when it is convenient, safe, or approved by our wives/girlfriends?
why must angelucci fly all the way from l.a. to hold our hands, weeks after the outrage has been shoved in our faces?
in the extraordinary hubris of their power, the fems overstepped their domination, and the media and public consciousness were ripe for a reality-check
WE WERE OFFERED OUR APPENDAGES BACK
but we weren’t strong enough to take them, and for this – as in all prior defeats – we have ourselves to blame
it's no good blaming the fems -- one doesn't blame the catatonic for catatonia -- unconsciously, they were offering us our freedom
obviously we need many more painful lessons before we are ready to take back our manhood
yakking online and writing letters will not get it done – we cannot out-talk the pros of propaganda, and the presses they control --“rational discourse” will not alter mass psychosis – you ever try to talk a schizophrenic out of madness?
if we wish liberation, it means putting our butts, comforts, and lives on the line – it means vigilance and IMMEDIATE action when the fem hegemony slips up
yes, protest is still possible, but now the matter has been diffused and de-fused, and it may be long before such a plum appears again, intact –already the sadists have retreated underground to safety
this failure is ultimately my responsibility and i apologize to the sons of this nation for my lethargy, carelessness and lack of vision
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Well, now that the stolen artwork has been recovered, there IS the possibility that the library will put it up again. It's not too late to protest. Even if we don't specifically protest the severed penis display, we can protest the fact that men are portrayed as perps in the rest of the exhibits.
Thomas: can you keep an eye out and tell us whether the display is replaced? Also, those of you who CAN get to the front doors of this library SHOULD do so. Let me know when you do and I'll try to find a way there myself. It's more than half way across the country for me, but I'll damn sure try.
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Nightmist asked: "Thomas: can you keep an eye out and tell us whether the display is replaced?"
Absolutely. I have a meeting tonight at the library in the coffee shop, which is right next to the display. Some of the people at the meeting are feminists; I may be the only egalitarian. Yuck!
This morning I called a number of the men's groups that remarksman mentioned in the other thread on this subject. I had to leave messages at every one. Still waiting for responses, but it is a holiday for many and most, if not all, of the organizations are voluntary.
I'm glad many people realize just how serious this is as well as what an opportunity it may present.
Rest assured, I'll keep you posted on this. It's interesting to be at this particular ground zero.
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As I had the day off today (and I live about 10 miles from Boulder) I took the opportunity to drive to the Boulder Public Library to see the display myself. When I got there, I found that the display (which had been stolen a few days ago) had not been put back up. I was under the impression that it had been returned to the library when the "thief" was caught.
There were still many examples of artwork on Domestic Violence, accompanied by several "explanations" that took the view that DV is a crime perpretrated by men against women and children.
As it turned out, there was a visitor book there complete with comments by other people who had attended the exhibit. Most of the comments in the visitor book were in support of the exhibit. Well, I wrote a full page titled "Men Are Victims Too," in which I objected to the plastic penises as they perpetuated the myth that only men are abusers and only women are victims. I tried to include the facts from my letter to the editor as much as possible from memory.
I can only imagine the reaction to my full page entry in that visitor book (or whether the page will just be ripped out by someone), but it was hard to pass up the opportunity to present an alternative point of view.
One other thing ... I actually disagree with the action of the "thief" in removing the "penis display" (even though I otherwise agree with his views) as freedom of speech is a First Ammendment right, as was what I wrote in that visitor book. It should be up to the Boulder Public Library whether or not to display the plastic penises, offensive as it was. Of course, it is our right to protest it as well.
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an important point on free speech and assembly, eq62, and i agree fully
the theif stole not only the first degree of expression (the exhibit) but also dialogue, the proper phase of direct reaction
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The thief did not violate the First Amendment as the public library is prohibited by law from sexual harassment, which the thief clearly said this display was. He stated it was offensive to him as a man. He was offended. The women defending it stated their view that it was supposed to express hatred of males. This is illegal in a federally funded institution. A woman in the library may say she hates males. The library itself cannot make such a statement and neither can the federally funded women's shelter that financed the display with tax dollars. Both the library and the shelter violated the law. Rather than sitting here worrying about how we will be perceived over the theft we need to be filing a lawsuit against the library and the shelter.
The shelter's webpage lists the standard female supremacist lies about domestic violence, such as:
"95% of domestic violence is perpetrated by men against women."
The Justice Department has disproven this long ago with its own findings. These claims date back to the 1970s and were never true. For a federal institution to make these MISANDRIC statements to the public is illegal. Do you understand this? It is ILLEGAL. We have more than just an opportunity to protest and get on talk radio. We have an opportunity to sue them and make the federal government take a position on this issue. It will be in the news and it will get more men to stand up for themselves if we sue, but if we sit on our hands and lament the theft, which I think was a brave act of protest and very much justified in this instance, then we waste this opportunity and show ourselves to be impotent once again to the female supremacists. No one in Congress will help us if we don't first show some fangs and sue so that the can be assured that we are for real.
Do not waste this chance to make a valuable gain for men's rights. I posted on another thread relating to this article that if someone will get a lawyer I will even pay the retainer, which could be around $1000.00 or more. I cannot sue becaue I live in Tennessee. If you live in Boulder you can. If we can get in touch with the man who stole the display he can sue, too. He was harassed. The theft only served to reenforce this position that he was outraged.
For God's sake, we have the offensive here. Don't let them talk us out of it. Don't back down. Don't waste this.
stevenpauljones@yahoo.com
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Hey, SPJ. I think you may be onto something with the lawsuit idea. I hope someone in Boulder follows through. I didn't know I had fellow Tennesseans visiting this site. ;) Where'd you find out about it?
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Are there artists among us who would create something that demonstrates the woman as the perpetrator and demand that it be placed in the collection along with all the misandrist stuff submitted by the women?
Just a thought...
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