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This gave me a really warm feeling. I'm glad that someone with the label of "educator" has recognized the need for the men's movement. Masculism really does need to spread further into education. I agree with her that it would help a great number of boys realize that they can do and be with their lives what they choose, and not what feminism tells them what they must do or be.
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I do not trust this task to educators. First of all, far too many of them are women, and no matter how sympathetic they are or will be to boys and men, they are NOT boys and men. I think organizations like the Boys Scouts are a good starting base to build from. Whatever the approach, it needs to be organized by men for the purpose of validating the masculinity of boys. Any efforts put forth by the public education system will do no more than inflate their budgets, and it's goals and methods will ultimately be compromised by political correctness.
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I tend to agree with Nightmist, although I question some of the points of the article itself.
"She said she agreed with Nelson College headmaster Salvi Gargiulo that a male revolution was needed to take back some of the power."
While I understand that power is always involved in the clash of gender issues, I'm more interested in her suggestion that boys are struggling because they aren't encouraged to explore their male identities. This seems to be critically linked to rites of passage, and I am fascinated with her comment about prison being one of the only remaining rites.
"She said the excitement of being truly male had been vaporised and washed away by feminism."
I'm interested in what her definition of "truly male" is. While I know there have been times in my life when I've felt (and there are still these times regularly) that feminism tried or tries to vaporize my masculinity, I also know that I participate every day in a male culture that is affirming and special and that feels pretty preserved to me.
"You have the ability to define that role (of males) and bring through a group of men who will challenge the women currently holding the positions of power."
This feels like polarization that doesn't necessarily help anyone. Is the movement about wrestling power away from women? Gosh, I don't know if that's what I'm all about. I'm okay with a woman having power, so long as she uses it appropriately and treats human beings with decency regardless of their gender.
She called for the boys' schools to publicly promote the place of men in society and celebrate their differences from women.
In a word, "Yes."
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I would agree, in general, with what frank has said, but I would add that I went to a private, all-boys Jesuit high school where this sort of thing would have been handled very well indeed.
A big key would be (and here I agree heartily with one of frank's points) keeping it to men and boys as much as possible, at least at the start.
It's unfortunate, but this situation has gotten to the point where males often have to exclude females from the discussion, so that they (the men and boys) can safely speak their minds.
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I certainly agree that it would have to be predominantly male, but just as there are many, many male feminists who have contributed to the rise of the female in education and the workplace, so are there many women who can and do contribute to the men's movement. I think it could work including both men and women if the educators really tried.
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"You have the ability to define that role (of males) and bring through a group of men who will challenge the women currently holding the positions of power."
Although I certainly can't speak for the source, I would assume she intended to mean that men and women should have equal opportunity for power. Not every man is going to grab power from a woman, nor is every woman going to overpower a man. I think she probably meant we shouldn't simply hand over positions of power to women simply because they're women.
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...but how would one start a national (or even regional) men's mentoring program in schools that is both effective and funded like the programs that exist for girls?
The whole infrastructure of schooling has been hijacked by feminist liberals from the federal level down, no male positive program exists for boys. Boys are expected to find there own way, while everywhere you turn one finds girl positive programs (in the media, schools, funding...)
To effect change in this environment would take A LOT of effort, the gynarchist educators would fight tooth and nail against such a program, and there is no federal funding available just for the development of boys (correct me if I'm wrong here) and no unified grass-root movement exists to effect change.
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Unfortunately, it would not take much of a fight. According to US vs Virgina, 1996 (I think it was '96) the Supreme Court ruled that all-boys schools are against the law, while all-girls schools are quite acceptable.
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I assume that's public schools to which you are referring. Most states allow private institutions to include and exclude whomever they choose. I know of at least a couple of private male-only schools still in existence.
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did i just hear a modern female educator tell men they need to revolt?
impossibly i find myself in joyous agreement with the former warden of a prison … tommorow’s forecast is snow in hell
note also it’s bylined by a female, one “sonia speedy”
SONIA SPEEDY?? say what? … next thing ya know mighty mouse will come swooping down
it’s too good to be true, a fractal miracle … a sure sign under voodoo aesthetics that the worm turns
the report said lady lashlie’s sermonette “opened the Heads of Boys’ Schools conference” … indeed and no doubt … let the head opening commence
in north america the classroom, from k through doctorate, is no place for a male, either student or educator
the nation complains that it has no teachers, but strong men won’t teach because the classrooms condition boys to inferior status … I agree with frank h. – we must not leave the task of training and welcoming boys into manhood to most “educators” – these are the folks who embrace the government’s grrrl power regimes
when the former warden of the “christchurch” prison (catchy name, huh?, i’ll bet he’s real pleased) is calling for a male revolution, we can assume we have the green light
lady lashlie’s generation of women had the wisdom to understand that unlimited female empowerment is not healthy for culture or planet
may the ex-warden be granted her wish
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