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Different sentences for child sexual abuse
posted by Thomas on 08:20 PM March 13th, 2006
Inequality Here's an excerpt from the article.

Robert J. Shoop, professor of education at Kansas State University, has studied teacher sex abuse for 15 years and has written a book on the subject. He said his review of five years of news reports shows that male teachers are likely to get 15 to 20 years in prison, while female teachers typically are placed on probation or go to prison for one to three years.

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Gender preferences (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 09:04 PM March 13th, 2006 EST (#1)
I like the authors take on what should be done, fifteen to twenty years for any teacher that abuses their position of trust and violates a Child. Again though Human sexual behavior is such that many young sexually mature underage Children of both genders will seek out this kind of situation and attention. Here again it is the "trusted" educators place to resist and report. When they fail to do that they are violating the trust of their position period, and should be punished the "same" regardless of their gender. Training has a lot to do with how a Boy reacts to this kind of situation. They are trained to think that sexual conquest is a sign of manlyhood, and a Girl is trained to believe that the sexual act is a violation, hence I bet they get more Girls that will testify than Boys. Talk about advantage!
Re:Gender preferences (Score:1)
by Little Lion on 11:22 PM March 13th, 2006 EST (#3)
http://manoppressed.blogspot.com
The study is the study is the study. Amazing that the prosecutors deny the facts. They have a political interest, I suppose.

You left out your usual "Hoka hey!"
Re:Gender preferences (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 10:44 AM March 14th, 2006 EST (#4)
That is why I don't trust "the political arena". Facts are facts are facts, manipulation of those facts is propaganda designed to confuse hoping that the average person will believe that they cannot think for themselves, which is more propaganda. "It is a good day to die!" Just for you!
Society Treats Females Differently (Score:1)
by oregon dad on 10:57 PM March 13th, 2006 EST (#2)
Its the only conclusion you can come to.
As is stated, there have been books written about it. Women are not punished for this. Why?
Because they are the weaker sex?

Must be.
They just cannot help themselves.
Mary K Misnomer (Score:1)
by Trueman on 02:15 PM March 14th, 2006 EST (#5)
There is a mistake in this article. Actually Mary Kay Letourneau was originally sentenced to probation. she wasn't sentenced to prison until she was caught 2 months later with the same boy in her car while parked at an elementary school. She was sent to prison for violating the terms of her release.

Chivalry died with the birth of Feminism.
Re:Mary K Misnomer (Score:2)
by frank h on 04:52 PM March 14th, 2006 EST (#6)
So did chivalry :-)

Sorry, Trueman. It was just too tempting :-)
Re:Mary K Misnomer (Score:1)
by Trueman on 05:23 PM March 14th, 2006 EST (#7)
Thanks Frank, I've never been known for my spelling. I think I got it right now. :-)


Chivalry died with the birth of Feminism.
Brief conversation with a statistical sociologist (Score:1)
by Little Lion on 06:10 PM March 14th, 2006 EST (#8)
http://manoppressed.blogspot.com
I had a brief conversation on the deferences in sentencing with a statistician who has published articles on criminology (I have many colleagues who do scientific and statistical computation).
 
His opinion was that without knowing what the specific charges were, it's hard to control for gender. He thought that men were likely to physically harm their victims, and their sentencing would reflect this; whereas male victims were not likely to be physically harmed or beaten by women perpetrators. He meant this in the sense that men were more likely to kill their victims.
Re:Brief conversation with a statistical sociologi (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 07:15 PM March 14th, 2006 EST (#9)
I don't believe that this case, or the others pertaining to teacher abuse had any violence involved at all. So, apples and oranges. It is about the basic violation of trust that these people do in their positions, either Male or Female, and the discrepencies of the perps sentences. I believe that you are going somewhere else with this. Or we could talk about how Women that kill or maim their Children and husbands get lessor sentences than a Man would. Either way Women should pay as well as a Man, period. No room for philosophication I don't believe....Unless of course you really believe that Women should get preferential treatment in the courts.......Just my opinion.
Re:Brief conversation with a statistical sociologi (Score:1)
by Little Lion on 09:52 PM March 14th, 2006 EST (#10)
http://manoppressed.blogspot.com
I believe that you are going somewhere else with this. Or we could talk about how Women that kill or maim their Children and husbands get lessor sentences than a Man would. Either way Women should pay as well as a Man, period. No room for philosophication I don't believe....Unless of course you really believe that Women should get preferential treatment in the courts.......Just my opinion.

I'm reporting what a colleague said. I'm not reporting what I believe.
Re:Brief conversation with a statistical sociologi (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 07:49 PM March 15th, 2006 EST (#11)
L/L, I am personaly suspect of any socioligist in the first place due to their training. Secondly statistics are manipulated to show whatever the ruling paradigm wants them to show, hence number one, training, and control. Now if a Person were to do research on their own looking for truth, then I might listen. But that costs money, and thinking for ones self isn't very popular amongst professional positions as that isn't what they are paid for now is it? Just my opinion....
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