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by Thundercloud on 03:43 PM December 29th, 2005 EST (#1)
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So does this mean that FINALLY people are waking up to the fact that women are not all sweet, shrinking violets made of sugar and spice, etc.?
I hope so.
I think it's weird that if you watch TV or movies, for instance, all you ever see are shows about women kicking men's a$$es, and no one finds female violence hard to believe then. So why is it so hard for some to accept the violence of women in real life?
Go figure.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Roy on 04:54 PM December 29th, 2005 EST (#2)
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A brief visit to WEAVE'S web site, the California DV service that refused one male plaintiff's requests for help not once but four times, suggests that this feminist DV agency is a bit nervous about being outed for discrimnating against male victims.
Their site now features a recently added section on "Service for Male Victims..."
Note that WEAVE cannot actually describe any services they currently provide, only that they are "making efforts to reach out to this underserved group."
Also note the tedious repetition of long-debunked distorted DV statistics claiming that "5% of domestic violence crimes deviate from the 'normal' battering of women by men."
It will be fun to watch what happens when this lawsuit moves into the discovery phase and WEAVE will be court-ordered to reveal it's actual service statistics and policies regarding men.
(Web site excerpt) -----
* Male Surviviors:
To Male Survivors and Concerned Community Members
Myth #1 Women are the only victims of domestic violence and sexual assault.
This is not true. Men are also victims of domestic violence and sexual assault. WEAVE recognizes the male victim and we are making efforts to reach out to this underserved group.
Finding resources and support may be difficult for male survivors because society has not yet fully accepted that men can be victimized.
Please know that WEAVE is here to help. Our crisis line workers and counselors welcome men and boys to contact our offices and seek support and resources.
Statistics tell us:
• 5% of reported domestic violence crimes deviate from the norm of a male perpetrator and female victim.
• 1 in 6 males will be sexually assaulted before he reaches the age of 18.
• Of all sexual assault victims who report, 9% are male. ----------
Link to http://www.weaveinc.org/ under the header “Service for Male Survivors”
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by Luek on 06:53 PM December 29th, 2005 EST (#3)
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• 5% of reported domestic violence crimes deviate from the norm of a male perpetrator and female victim.
• 1 in 6 males will be sexually assaulted before he reaches the age of 18.
• Of all sexual assault victims who report, 9% are male
Oh, what a tangled web we WEAVE when first we practice to deceive.
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by RandomMan on 03:12 PM December 30th, 2005 EST (#7)
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Just to add some ranting and thoughts to your well-worded observation, Luek:
• 5% of reported domestic violence crimes deviate from the norm of a male perpetrator and female victim.
I see. Under-reporting by women means there's a HUGE crisis. Two reported rapes means there were 2,000. When it's men, however, the under-reported statistic is actually an exaggeration, an anomaly, right girls? Let's not worry about the fact that men are far less likely to seek help or report anything to begin with, and that they're not likely to seek help from governments or feminist social (or self?) service agencies because it's NOT COMING. Hence the lawsuit.
Also, I love the insinuation that men victimizing women is the "norm". It's nice to know that if I'm ever sued for slander, I can countersue. Let's get our facts straight here: women are just as violent as men in the home, but women bitching and moaning about being victims is the "norm", as is women expecting society to pony up and provide them with support and resources when they're abused. Without the underlying assumption that all women as a class are victims of all men as a class, feminism (which is little more than self-serving marxism for greedy women) fails entirely. Hence, nothing can be allowed to violate the foundation of misandry which supports the house of cards.
• 1 in 6 males will be sexually assaulted before he reaches the age of 18.
Are we using the feminist definition of "sexual assualt" here (i.e. inappropriate looks or comments, where what's inappropriate need only be defined instantaneously in the mind of the self-proclaimed victim, and where no evidence of assault or harm is required)? If so, I think we can safely assume that this is another feminist exaggeration meant to (a) create support for the nonsensical 1 in 4 women are raped lie while simultaneously blaming men. They're brainwashed feminists, and assume that the reader is too. Since only men commit sexual assault in their world view, by only acknowledging sexual crimes against children, they can get away with making blatantly false statements which pretend to give a damn about someone male without ever dropping their attack on men. It must be nice to live in a universe where only your own needs matter...
• Of all sexual assault victims who report, 9% are male
Again, under-reporting by women = men are abusers, women are victims. Under-reporting by men = men aren't being abused, men are exaggerating. I do believe that is the entire POINT of the lawsuit, is it not? That men who do have the courage to report abuse and seek assistance from an androphobic society which will arrest them more often than not when they file a domestic violence complaint to protect themselves are denied access to the billions in feminist pork being diverted to fund androphobia and institutional misandry?
I fully expect the entire feminist-controlled domestic violence industry to get behind the WEAVE group and the State on this one: if you acknowledge in law that women can frequently be violent abusers, that women's organizations are denying assistance to men and children to benefit themselves, and that they aren't the poor, oppressed victims society is told to typecast them as, feminism itself becomes little more than privilege hoarding for the greedy and bigoted. Those of us who don't buy the bullshit anymore know that's exactly what feminism is of course, but reality is ever so inconvenient to feminists, racists and their ilk.
Phew. Much better. Ranting always helps when I see garbage like that. Keep your fingers crossed for the abused men fighting this case!
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by jsathre111 on 07:55 PM December 29th, 2005 EST (#4)
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this question can simply be answer by reading the attached straight for the us dept of health and human services!!. Women are more violent than men when it comes to there children. Irs funny cause there are 23 million children living with there mother and only 5 million with there father. more boys die each year from abuse and we are ignored.
Matt you can give this to the Ca. Judge to prove more women are domestic violent prepetrators than men!!
Make sense??? of course not!!
http://nccanch.acf.hhs.gov/pubs/factsheets/canstat s.cfm
Child Maltreatment 2003: Summary of Key Findings
Author(s): National Clearinghouse on Child Abuse and Neglect Information
Year Published: 2005
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This factsheet presents excerpts from Child Maltreatment 2003, a report based on data submissions by the States for Federal Fiscal Year 2003. The National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System was developed by the Children's Bureau of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in partnership with the States to collect annual statistics on child maltreatment from State child protective services (CPS) agencies.1
The press release announcing these data is available on the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services website at http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2005.html. The full Child Maltreatment 2003 report is available on the Children's Bureau website at http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/publications/c mreports.htm. Limited print copies are available from the National Clearinghouse on Child Abuse and Neglect Information.
Victims
An estimated 906,000 children were determined to be victims of child abuse or neglect in 2003. The rate of victimization per 1,000 children in the national population has dropped from 13.4 children in 1990 to 12.4 children in 2003.
More than 60 percent of child victims experienced neglect. Almost 19 percent were physically abused, 10 percent were sexually abused, and 5 percent were emotionally maltreated. In addition, 17 percent were associated with "other" types of maltreatment, based on specific State laws and policies. 2
Children ages birth to 3 years had the highest rates of victimization at 16.4 per 1,000 children of the same age group. Girls were slightly more likely to be victims than boys.
Pacific Islander, American Indian or Alaska Native, and African-American children had the highest rates of victimization when compared to their national population. While the rate of White victims of child abuse or neglect was 11.0 per 1,000 children of the same race, the rate for Pacific Islanders was 21.4 per 1,000 children, the rate for American Indian or Alaska Natives was 21.3 per 1,000 children, and the rate for African-Americans was 20.4 per 1,000 children.
Reports of Child Abuse and Neglect
In 2003, an estimated 2.9 million referrals concerning the welfare of approximately 5.5 million children were made to CPS agencies throughout the United States. Of these, approximately two-thirds (an estimated 1.9 million) were accepted for investigation or assessment; one-third were not accepted.
More than one-half (57 percent) of all reports that alleged child abuse or neglect were made by such professionals as educators, law enforcement and legal personnel, social services personnel, medical personnel, mental health personnel, child daycare providers, and foster care providers. Such nonprofessionals as friends, neighbors, and relatives submitted approximately 43 percent of reports.
Approximately 30 percent of the reports that were investigated included at least one child who was found to be a victim of abuse or neglect. Fifty-eight percent of the reports were found to be unsubstantiated (including those that were intentionally false); the remaining reports were closed for additional reasons.
Fatalities
Child fatalities are the most tragic consequence of maltreatment. For 2003, an estimated 1,500 children died due to abuse or neglect. More than three-quarters (79 percent) of children who were killed were younger than 4 years old; 10 percent were 4 to 7 years old; 5 percent were 8 to 11 years old; and 6 percent were 12 to 17 years old.
Infant boys (younger than 1 year) had the highest rate of fatalities, with nearly 18 deaths per 100,000 boys of the same age in the national population. Infant girls (younger than 1 year) had a rate of 14 deaths per 100,000. The overall rate of child fatalities was 2 deaths per 100,000 children. More than one-third of child fatalities were attributed to neglect. Physical abuse also was a major contributor to fatalities.
Perpetrators
Approximately 80 percent of perpetrators were parents. Other relatives accounted for 6 percent, and unmarried partners of parents accounted for 4 percent of perpetrators. The remaining perpetrators included persons with other (camp counselor, school employee, etc.) or unknown relationships to the child victims.
Female perpetrators, who were mostly mothers, were typically younger than male perpetrators, who were mostly fathers. Women also comprised a larger percentage of all perpetrators than men: 58 percent compared to 42 percent.
Of all parents who were perpetrators, fewer than 3 percent were associated with sexual abuse. More than three-quarters of perpetrators who were friends or neighbors committed sexual abuse.
Services
Approximately 57 percent of victims and 25 percent of nonvictims received services as a result of an investigation or assessment. Additional analyses indicated that children who were prior victims of maltreatment were 52 percent more likely to receive services than first-time victims. Additionally, children with multiple types of maltreatment were 73 percent more likely to receive services than children who were victims of physically abuse only.
Services included both in-home and foster care services. Approximately 15 percent of child victims were placed in foster care. About 3 percent of nonvictims also experienced a removal-usually a short-term placement during the course of the investigation.
1 CPS agencies respond to referrals regarding harm to children caused by parents or primary caregivers. Incidents of harm to children caused by other people, such as acquaintances and strangers, are not included in these data. back
2 These numbers add up to more than 100 percent because some children were victims of more than one type of maltreatment. back
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Add in the Dutton research, and the case should sail through !
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by brotherskeeper on 02:24 PM December 30th, 2005 EST (#6)
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Marc/Glenn/Scott,
Excellent work. If possible, please let us know how this turns out. There have to be some officials out there with an actual sense of justice.
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by MR on 10:46 PM December 31st, 2005 EST (#8)
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Marc A. writes "Sacks/Angelucci print column on class action lawsuit to end state's discrimination against male DV victims in California