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by Anonymous User on 08:56 AM November 14th, 2005 EST (#1)
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by Anonymous User on 12:04 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Because we, continually, in our society teach women and girls that they can err with immunity, I believe that we are going to see even more of this sort of thing, as time goes on, not less.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 02:08 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#4)
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And the number of male victims will likely increase as well.
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by Anonymous User on 12:29 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#3)
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I suspect that at some point, this will be debated in the UK and someone will attribute this behaviour to girls "copying" boys.
Rob
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by ArtflDgr on 04:46 PM November 15th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Given that women dont do as much damage as men, there is no problem here. Using the same, equal ruler, these girls ought to be free to victimize each other as they are free to victimize men.
also the percentage of this happening is small, so why bother doing anything (the equal point for lack of DV help for men)
finally some parity....
[this has been brought to you by sarcasm]
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by Clancy
(chermanstovall@msn.com)
on 06:44 PM November 15th, 2005 EST (#6)
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I've seen a few fights in my day. Fights between girls and fights between boys. Never saw a fight between a boy and a girl. Junior high and high school were the usual years when boys wanted to assert their unchanneled anger. Most fights looked more like pushing matches. I saw one fight in junior high that involved a weapon. The two 13 or 14 year old boys were circling each other amidst a large throng that was cheering them on. One boy pulled out a carpet or tile knife. This knife is a single blade about 4 inches long with a curved end that pointed down and it's purpose was to drag the sharp point across tile or carpet in order to cut it into. The kid tried to open the blade with one hand and in doing so nearly cut off his own thumb. Of course, the "fight" ended before it ever started. As I watched from a distance I couldn't help but chuckle. "What a dumbass". Fights involving girls were nothing more than hair pulling, kicking and clothes tearing. In all my years I never witnessed the level of cruelty that I've read about in the above examples. These kids don't want to blow off steam, they want to MAIM and, apparently, feel good about it. Makes me think more and more about a conceal-carry license.
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by SacredNaCl
(tbessR3m0Ve2SendNEIN[SPAM]@R3m0ve.2.sendAt.mail.ru)
on 05:55 PM November 16th, 2005 EST (#7)
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I have a very strong intuition that these were not run of the mill attacks, but most likely racial assaults. BBC mentions a Somali in one, but goes way too far out of the way in the other two to hide any information at all about the atackers, but speaks to "gangs" of attackers.
Unfortunately, I have witnessed this type of problem in the past, both in boys & girls. I went to school during the period of bussing, and though my parents found the money to send me to a private school for my last two years, the first two years of high school were spent dealing with a high school that had become quite violent at times. We literally had gangs of inner city kids roaming the halls and parking lots robbing people, often with weapons,and the girls were not much better behaved. The trademark was that they always assaulted in groups, and never one on one.
I can only say that after the bussing was stopped, the crime rate at our school dropped dramatically. Unfortunately that didn't happen while I was there, bussing stopped a few years later.
Now that it isn't an issue, most of the major violence is confined to a few schools within the city itself. At one point a few weeks ago in the city school were no less than 13 different assaults, a shooting, a stabbing, an attempted rape, and a small riot which brought out most of St Louis city police in mass.
Unfortunately for the kids that go there, the violence doesn't stop when they leave the school. In fact, in many ways, its worse just right outside of it. Due to metal detectors it is a guarantee that the student leaving school will be unarmed, but the one who skipped to get a chance to take a shot at the one leaving will most likely be armed.
I don't know what the solution to all of this is, but I do know that if I am right about the nature of the attacks the BBC is reporting, burying the truth about them will not create an atmosphere of shame which would tend to discourage them. If anything, covering them up will only encourage future attacks, as we have witnessed in America with minority violence.
Freedom Is Merely Privilege Extended Unless Enjoyed By One & All.
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