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by Tumescent on 12:16 AM November 13th, 2005 EST (#1)
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If this keeps up countires like Norway, Sweeden and the like will soon be third world countries. Feminsists are on course to ruin these countries economies and their social structures. The doers and thinkers in their societies will eventually leave. Then what will they do? They might as well get the taliban to come in and run things.
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by Anonymous User on 12:34 PM November 13th, 2005 EST (#3)
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It's interesting that feminists can still get away with making public, vehemently sexist statements like - "For a woman to get in a man must get out. It is not difficult to find qualified women."
What would happen if it read like this --
"For a Christian to get in a Jew must get out. It is not difficult to find qualified Christians."
Feminism = Fascism and it's becoming clearer every day.
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by Anonymous User on 08:39 AM November 13th, 2005 EST (#2)
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I can't wait till the muslims riot in norway. I hope when they riot there they murder feminist women.
The muslims will be the saving grace of europe and deliver it out of feminism.
1) They have 6-12 children per man-woman/girl couple
2) Europeans have 0-1 children per man-feminist/woman couple
3) Muslim men, as a whole, don't like feminism; it is part of the religion of the infidel.
The native women respecting europeans will simply be out populated... and hopefully (for their sake) find their feminist women hanging on lamp poles.
I don't like feminist women.
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by Dave K on 05:54 PM November 13th, 2005 EST (#4)
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"I hope when they riot there they murder feminist women."
What the hell is wrong with you? You think you're doing mens rights a favor with assenine opinions like this.
Crawl back under the rock you came from.
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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by Anonymous User on 09:01 PM November 13th, 2005 EST (#5)
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"problem gone - problem solved"
Murdering feminists would help men.
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by Anonymous User on 11:02 PM November 13th, 2005 EST (#6)
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i can't deny i hold a grudge against them for making heterosexual relationships into a matter of leaps of faith.
but ghandi didn't need to kill anyone to make his point.
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by Anonymous User on 11:14 PM November 13th, 2005 EST (#7)
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So, from a feminist womans point of view, if they kill all men, their problem will be solved. Bet you don't like it when such asinine ideas would make you worm-food.
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by Anonymous User on 08:29 AM November 14th, 2005 EST (#9)
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feminists aren't quite the lightest lightbulbs around either.
and the other extreme (muslisms) isn't that much better.
like everything else the human race screwed up, there has to be a balance for things to work properly.
obviously, feminism isn't about balancing the sexes so i'm pretty sure they're going to flunk sooner or later.
if not because no one trusts them anymorethen because the whole damn world will be in a civil war because everyone has had enough of the crap.
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Looks like our "Take away women's right to vote" troll is back, only changing the message.
I suspect she's a feminist simply trying to make us look bad.
"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
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by Anonymous User on 02:27 PM November 16th, 2005 EST (#36)
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It's probably the same joker who asked what a "Nowegian" is.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 04:39 AM November 14th, 2005 EST (#8)
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Your tawdry little posting wouldn't even be worth answering if it wasn't for the fact that it is a potential embarrassment to the men's rights movement. There is no place here for people advocating rioting and violence. What you say doesn't even make sense. (1) There is no significant muslim population in Norway. (2) Even if there was, why should they want to riot, particularly against feminists? (3)Even if they did decide to kill all feminists, how would they recognise them? (4)First you advocate the killing of all feminists, and then you seem to advocate the out-breeding of Europeans by Muslims.
What are you talking about? Try using your brain you idiot.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 10:45 AM November 14th, 2005 EST (#11)
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One of the effects that the feminist trolls on this site have is to disrupt debate, and this is no doubt intentional. Rather than discussing the article in question, we spend our time troll-fighting. This needs to be minimised. I think the best tactic is to see the troll off right at the beginning, and then ignore them after that, and get on with the discussion.
It's easy to make the mistake of thinking that defeating the troll is the whole story, end of thread. It's not. Getting rid of the troll just means it's time to get back to work.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by Anonymous User on 12:09 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#12)
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 12:33 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#13)
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It's a person who comes from Noway, which is obviously where you live, you idiot.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by Anonymous User on 02:11 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#17)
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Do you REALLY not know?
If not, it is just a typing error, and it means 'Norwegian'.
I hope your just kidding around.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 02:17 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#19)
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I was kidding around TC
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by Anonymous User on 03:11 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#21)
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I know you are, Angryman, but Is the original poster kidding?
If not, I'm a little worried about him. :-)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 02:23 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#20)
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Did you write this TC? You didn't sign it and I thought you were the Troll. No offence mate.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by Anonymous User on 04:04 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#22)
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'wasn't me.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 01:03 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#14)
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This story sounds like something from a satire like Jonathon Swift or Monty Python. It is difficult to believe that a first world government would seriously draft a law as absurd as this.
It is obviously going to have a negative impact on the NoRwegian economy, for several reasons:
(1) The quality of management will be reduced as relatively unqualified women are forced into boardrooms to meet quotas. This will result in poorer company profitability, and increased bankruptcy, leading to company closure and job losses.
(2) Perfectly healthy companies employing hundreds or even thousands of ordinary working women and men will be forcibly closed down by the government, forcing everyone out of work and on to welfare, the cost of which will have to be met by the NoRwegian taxpayer.
(3) In order to avoid the quotas, NoRwegian companies will simply relocate abroad, and foreign companies will choose not to go to NoRway. The country will become an economic pariah state, thus impoverishing the country, and forcing more ordinary people out of work.
Of course, a handful of already-privileged women will benefit in the short term, by being handed top boardroom jobs on a platter. However, this must be weighed against the social costs of increased poverty and unemployment. The negative consequences of long-term unemployment include increased alcohol and drug abuse, increased crime, reduced public health, both physical and mental, increased suicide, increased domestic violence, reduced nutrition standards among the population, family and social breakdown, reduced school performance among impoverished children, leading in turn to inherited unemployment and poverty for the next generation.
The government's tax revenue will diminish due to less economic activity, at the same time that its costs will increase as the welfare and law enforcement budgets soar. It is a recipe for not only economic, but also civic, suicide. Of course, a handful of rich feminists will benefit. So that's OK then.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 01:35 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#15)
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This story is a good example of the feminist tendency to get the facts wrong.
several surveys had found that companies where both sexes were strongly represented on the board were more profitable.
Where are these surveys? Are they by any chance examples of the kind of advocacy research described by Christina Hoff Sommers in her book 'Who Stole Feminism?', in which feminists design 'surveys' to produce the answers they want? Show us these surveys. Put your evidence on the table. What are you scared of?
There is an obvious question to be asked - if companies employing large numbers of female directors are more profitable, then why don't all companies do it already? The business community is a ruthlessly competitive environment, and profits are the principal measure of success. Why on earth would a government need to force the business community to make more money? These left-wing feminists display an ignorance of basic economic facts, an ignorance all the more alarming given that they are in positions of government.
This story shows the feminist tendency to favour half-baked conspiracy theories over economic and social reality.
Of course the supposed increased profitability is nothing but a smokescreen. It is really just about 'jobs for the girls'. NoRwegian feminists are engaging in a very bold campaign of cronyism, jeopardising the entire future of their country in order to hand out sinecures to their privileged friends.
Part of me hopes they will succeed. It will be a brutal social experiment resulting in widespread human suffering, but the day will come, perhaps decades from now, when the world will witness what an unmitigated disaster it was. In the meantime, the rest of us can sit back in bitter amusement and watch NoRway slide off the map.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 01:43 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#16)
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Another obvious consequence of this is that NoRway's brightest and best will desert their homeland to look for jobs elsewhere. This will apply particularly to talented NoRwegian men. The feminists who evidently dominate NoRwegian politics are creating a NoRwegian brain-drain, and the rest of us can look forward to an influx of new talent. This will simply hasten NoRway's decline relative to its competitors.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 02:14 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#18)
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What is the feminist view of corporate capitalism? Is corporate capitalism a good thing, or a bad thing? Well, it's a good thing when women do it, but it's a bad thing when men do it.
There was a guy a few years back who used to have similar views. He thought that science, art and classical music were good things when Aryans did them, but bad things when Jews did them. His name was Adolf.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by Anonymous User on 04:41 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#23)
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There is a reason they're called: Feminazis! They are planning this type of discrimination for the USA and the rest of the world.
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by Philalethes on 06:00 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#24)
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"If you allow them [women] to pull away restraints and put themselves on an equality with their husbands, do you imagine that you will be able to tolerate them? From the moment that they become your fellows, they will become your masters." --Marcus Porcius Cato (the Elder, a.k.a. the Censor), 234-149 BCE
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by Anonymous User on 02:25 PM November 15th, 2005 EST (#30)
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There are actually a good number of wussie-poopie males in Government, universities, the media and other places of power that WANT women to be their "masters".
That's a BIG part of the problem...
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 07:19 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#25)
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The story is also a good example of how the emphasis has changed within the feminist movement from 'equal opportunities' to 'equal outcomes'. There was a time when feminists demanded equal opportunities, but now that they have them, do they go home and do something else? No. They simply make more demands. They sieze upon (usually questionable) statistics about who does what job, and if it suits them - only if it suits them - they will shout 'Conspiracy!'
Ther will never be perfect gender equality across every economic sector. It is an impossible demand, and feminists know it. But as long as there is a slight gender imbalance somewhere, feminists have a guaranteed meal ticket.
There are many jobs done predominantly by men which feminists are not in the least concerned about - low status, dangerous badly-paid jobs. You never hear feminists demanding a woman's right to work in the sewers, do you? Or to collect garbage? It is only the high-income, high-status professions that they are concerned about. Funny that.
Equally, there are jobs predominantly done my women which feminists seem not to notice. Nurses, midwives, school-teachers are predominantly women. Where are the screeches of protest? I hear nothing. Female models are paid vastly more than male ones. Who screams about the pay gap? No-one. It is simply about accruing more and more privilege for themselves. Justice has nothing to do with it.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 07:39 PM November 14th, 2005 EST (#26)
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There are very good reasons why most people in the boardroom are men. Men work harder. Men work longer hours. They make more personal sacrifices in terms of leisure, lifestyle and family. They dont take time off work to have children. Society (including women) judges men largely in terms of their career success, which means that men have more incentive to pursue their career than women do. Let us not forget that they do it also to please their demanding wives. Consequently, more men than women rise to the top. See 'Why Men Earn More' by Warren Farrell.
Of course feminists don't see it this way. All they can see is a childish conspiracy theory, a Victorian melodrama in which a swooning virgin is chained to the railway tracks by an evil black-cloaked male villain, and they scream in outrage.
The bald figures are not the whole story. If men have more job status than their wives, the wives enjoy much better quality of life, and of course they live longer. Men earn most of the money, but women spend most if it. It is women who make the overwhelming majority of purchasing decisions. Women also legally own most of the property. Men accrue property and transfer it into their wife's name to protect it from bankruptcy and taxation. Feminists never mention these things. What selective memories they have.
I will watch NoRway with interest.
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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by Anonymous User on 10:00 AM November 15th, 2005 EST (#27)
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Also, you'd think that on a purely personal level many women married to men who are supporting them would be against this type of social engineering. They benefit from their husband's advancements in the work place, and therefore are hurt when less qualified women are given what should be his raises and promotions. Do these women stand up against this injustice? Surely some do, but many don't.
Many women will support policies that unfairly help other women they don't even know. If they thought about it, maybe they would realize they have been had and are ultimately hurting themselves and their families, not to mention society in general. They have been brainwashed into acting against their own best interest in the name of some abstract, unattainable, utopian ideal.
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by Anonymous User on 10:08 AM November 15th, 2005 EST (#28)
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The reason that the companies with more women in the boardroom are more profitable is not because of the women, they were more profitable in the first place. The most profitable companies can absorb more incompetence, male and female, and still flourish.
Their kind of logic would state that fewer women die in Iraq, therefore must be better soldiers than men.
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by Anonymous User on 10:45 AM November 15th, 2005 EST (#29)
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The numbers are probably distorted. Feminists manipulate research methodology, data, and presentation of results to support their claims. Most social "science" conducted by feminists is therefore bogus. Don't accept the premise to start with.
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by Anonymous User on 02:37 PM November 15th, 2005 EST (#31)
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In other words feminists cram a square peg into a round hole then claim it fits.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Clancy
(chermanstovall@msn.com)
on 06:29 PM November 15th, 2005 EST (#34)
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"A Nowegian is from Noway..." - seriously cracked me up. As for the rest of your essay, observations, comments or whatever you want to call it - absolutley great reading. When I read that Noway was going to shut down businesses that would not put wimmin on the board of directors I thought to myself - Self, that's sorta like a police officer saying to a armed robber "If you don't drop the weapon, I'm gonna shoot myself in the foot!".
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 07:51 PM November 15th, 2005 EST (#35)
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Thanks mate
"Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." Louis D Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice, 1913
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