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VAWA background
posted by Matt on 02:16 PM September 30th, 2005
News Anonymous User writes "In light of the recent Cornyn/Kyl amendment to VAWA, the following article is disconcerting. Maybe a simple archive on VAWA background materials might be started/added on one of the MRA sites (mediaradar.org has a good start). Here is the URL."

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Truth Comes Out: Bush Pushing DNA Hate Law (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 05:26 PM September 30th, 2005 EST (#1)
Ashholefuckheadbullshitface publicly states, ...President Bush’s Family Justice Center Initiative embodies the core values of a coordinated community response to violence against women [not men]. These centers draw together professionals and volunteers to provide under one roof an array of services for a victim of violence [if they are women]....

A victim can get a restraining order, undergo a forensic exam, obtain legal advice, speak with a chaplain, and meet with a victim advocate, all at one location [if they are a female]...The Family Justice Centers are founded on the belief that everyone in a community has something to offer to their [read female – not male] neighbor in need.


Bullshit! There is no way that I want my neighbor 911'ing me if my wife and I have a simple argument that might get loud. Bush is a complete fuck-up ass hole. He is clearly pussy-whipped by his wife. MEEEEOOOOOOWWWW!

So, now the truth comes out. Bush is the one pushing to create the Family Justice Centers. Be very scared. They are posed to create a massive new array of databases, and they will be recording permanent data without any criminal conviction or arrest. ALL MALES WILL BE TARGETED. You will never be able to get anything erased and it will be used against you no matter what the statements in the record.
 
Do men really want your Chaplin, Bishop, Pastor, or whatever spiritual figurehead being paid by these women only centers to destroy you because of a simple allegation?

Oh. I get it. Men should just ask for equal rights. Suuuuurrrrreeeee....... That'll do it. What dumb shits. There is no compromise here. VAWA must be opposed at all costs.

In March 2003, I had the privilege of announcing President Bush’s "Advancing Justice Through DNA Technology" initiative. This effort commits one billion dollars over five years to expand and strengthen as never before the use of DNA technology in the criminal justice system.....

The Violence Against Women Act comes up for reauthorization by Congress next year. Congress should not delay....


Still think that the amendment to VAWA legalizing a massive DNA collection is a poison pill. NOT! That amendment was specifically included to allow all local police and law enforcement officials to forcibly collect DNA from all males. There is no protection.

All that will need to happen is that some woman cry rape and there will be a massive male round up in your neighborhood. You will not be able to say no. The police won't even have to arrest you. They will be able to hold any male for any reason. Then they will be able to tie you down and extract the DNA, or they will collect it from the room without your knowledge.

Men are in deep shit. They are going to see a round up like never before in history.

Think you are safe because it won’t impact you? Wrong. Even if the Supreme court overturns the new law it will take years to overturn the law. That means that potentially 100’s of thousands of males will be rounded up prior to the Supreme court ruling. After that you will never get your DNA removed from the database.

Think DNA isn’t easy to plant? If yes then you are a fool.

Warble


Re:Truth Comes Out: Bush Pushing DNA Hate Law (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:20 PM September 30th, 2005 EST (#2)
"So, now the truth comes out. Bush is the one pushing to create the Family Justice Centers. Be very scared. They are posed to create a massive new array of databases, and they will be recording permanent data without any criminal conviction or arrest. ALL MALES WILL BE TARGETED."

So are there any laws against picketing those places, or does that just apply to abortion clinics. If not, let me know when a Family Injustice Center comes to your neighborhood and I'll come picket it with you. I've got some great new signs. While your at it, I've been wondering about picketing chruches that support the Violence Against Women Act. Are there any laws against that???

Sincerely, Ray
Re:Truth Comes Out: Bush Pushing DNA Hate Law (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:23 PM September 30th, 2005 EST (#3)
Warb:

Come visit us on the 8th (or be a part of us), if you can make it.

Ray
Re:Truth Comes Out: Bush Pushing DNA Hate Law (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:43 AM October 1st, 2005 EST (#4)
this speech by ashcroft is about one year old, so it helps indicate that the VAWA and various other anti-male measures are NOT simply the agendas of "radical feminists," Marxists, Communists etc etc

that both "sides" of the ideo-poli-religious fence back the VAWA to the hilt tells m.r.a.s who the real foe is

again and again, what we see in america and in other western nations is the overt COLLUSION between the left's orthodox feminism/identity politics and the right's pseudo-religious uber-state

there is nothing "conservative" about ashcroft, bush, and the american right-wing

cynically, they understand very well that their continued meal ticket to power is through the domestic and international promotion of "women's rights" and female empowerment

it is the alliance of these forces that produces matriarchy, the Gynarchic Gulag
Re:Truth Comes Out: Bush Pushing DNA Hate Law (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:41 AM October 1st, 2005 EST (#5)
"COLLUSION between the left's orthodox feminism/identity politics and the right's pseudo-religious uber-state"

No less of an "uber state" than the rabid, liberal, socialist democrats. Don't forget NSDAP, the words from which the acronym NAZI comes, stands for "National Deutsche Socialist Party." Men would not be contending with this nightmare of a man-hating agenda we are facing if the democrats had not first shoved it down everybodies throats. Never forget it is all the little Hitler gender feminist who have created this mess, and they are all solidly democrats.


Re: DemoFemiPublicans Have Surrounded MRAs! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 03:49 PM October 1st, 2005 EST (#6)
The vote for VAWA was what in the House of Representatives last week? 415 YES and 4 NO?

That means VAWA was enthusiastically supported by both Republican and Democrat MEN who hold the vast majority of seats.

You can point fingers all you want at the historically marginal socialists and commies and the currently marginal lefties... even try to make a case for who "started" feminism. (One historian has published a book alleging that feminism began in the women's wing of the Klu Klux Klan!)

What matters now is that feminism's dirty work being carried forward in VAWA is perhaps our very best example of bi-partisan cooperation in Congress.

The pols ("our" representatives) fight like cats and dogs over allegations of incompetence in hurricane relief, but they sing in unison like choirboys when it comes to screwing men.

When did castration become a requirement for holding office in Congress?

(roy)


Re: DemoFemiPublicans Have Surrounded MRAs! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 05:01 PM October 2nd, 2005 EST (#9)
Roy (and Ray) note, "That means VAWA was enthusiastically supported by both Republican and Democrat MEN who hold the vast majority of seats."

I agree. Marxist-Feminist ideology has been sold to all political parties. In addition, both the left and the right embrace this communist ideology. That includes all of the mainstream churches.

It should not be surprising that the masses are embracing such an oppressive and illegal law. We have seen religion and political parties support slavery. Indeed. They quoted the Bible to justify owning other humans. Slavery was even codified into law to make it legal.

This new oppression of all males should not surprise anybody. When a simple biased law is passed, in this case to protect only women from violence (VAWA), then it is only a matter of time before an entire class of people becomes oppressed. In this case, the oppression will be of all males. Males are the new group that it is in vogue to hate. Unless of course if you are a gay male or a male that supports jailing other men for no good reason.

What is ironic is that male legislators fail to believe that their own family members will experience the oppression they are unleashing. Hell. They are so stupid and corrupt that they have no idea what the VAWA actually means. They think we are just a bunch of whiny males who fail to suck-it-up and take it like a man. They are in big trouble just like the rest of us. They just too damn stupid to know or believe the facts that we present.

Warble

Re: DemoFemiPublicans Have Surrounded MRAs! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:34 PM October 2nd, 2005 EST (#10)
roy wrote:

"The vote for VAWA was what in the House of Representatives last week? 415 YES and 4 NO?

That means VAWA was enthusiastically supported by both Republican and Democrat MEN who hold the vast majority of seats.

You can point fingers all you want at the historically marginal socialists and commies and the currently marginal lefties... even try to make a case for who "started" feminism. (One historian has published a book alleging that feminism began in the women's wing of the Klu Klux Klan!)"

***** anywhere one finds weak men, there one finds feminism in power

"What matters now is that feminism's dirty work being carried forward in VAWA is perhaps our very best example of bi-partisan cooperation in Congress."

***** nice catch

isn't it amazing how womens' Endless Agenda is the major cohesion-point in american domestic and international policy?

american government has been dominated by "conservatives" for many years now, yet our culture gets more misandrist and matriarchal by the day

support by prominent m.r.a.s of the Republicans and right-wing in general is holding back the men's movement in the West

as activists, it's long past time we stopped ignoring, denying, and soft-selling that fact, and allowing our feminized government to divide us

"The pols ("our" representatives) fight like cats and dogs over allegations of incompetence in hurricane relief, but they sing in unison like choirboys when it comes to screwing men."

***** bravo!!

and that is why BOTH the "cats and dogs" are about to get tossed out and replaced by the very men they've been screwing, denigrating, and mocking

"When did castration become a requirement for holding office in Congress?

(roy)"

***** it's been an incremental process thru the 20th century

but to pick a single date, especially one that fully encapsulates what's been done over the past four decades to american masculinity ... how about Nov. 22, 1963?

neither an isolated incident, nor an accident
 

Mea Culpa: wishful thinking (Score:1)
by Hunchback on 04:44 PM October 1st, 2005 EST (#7)
Still think that the amendment to VAWA legalizing a massive DNA collection is a poison pill? NOT! That amendment was specifically included to allow all local police and law enforcement officials to forcibly collect DNA from all males. There is no protection.

I was wrong.

I'll admit that I was hoping beyond hope that no one with an ounce of intelligence or integrity would actually push for such a database on its own merits. I underestimated Bush and his Republican lackeys as much as I underestimated the stupidity and venality of the Democrats in sponsoring VAWA in the beginning. (Even Andrea Dworkin was shocked when VAWA made it to the floor.)

Both parties feel that no law is too draconian, no injustice too egregious, no appeal too humiliating if it only targets men. Why? Because unlike women, men form no coherent political or social entity to represent their interests. Without a massive education of ordinary men and a large recruitment effort this will continue to be the case....

...But I'm afraid we're too late. We had years to create a true popular response to defeat VAWA, and we didn't budge. Our half-hearted attempts—for instance, the Million Dad March—only provided encouragement to the feminists of our impotence. Fellas, we are really and truly, deeply and profoundly f**ked.

Re:Mea Culpa: wishful thinking (Score:1)
by Baniadam on 05:55 PM October 1st, 2005 EST (#8)
only provided encouragement to the feminists of our impotence. Fellas, we are really and truly, deeply and profoundly f**ked.

It is not only men that are going to suffer. Society as a whole will; unless you are rich and powerful.

Children are gonna get their share of it to. Thank God we age and die.

Also I do not believe most women espouse to the femanazi agenda at least it does not appear to be the case here in the UK (in my personal view). It just the femanazi are super-naggers even for by the standard of women.


Re:Mea Culpa: wishful thinking (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:03 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#11)
It's official: VAWA was reauthorized.

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