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by Anonymous User on 04:18 PM September 30th, 2005 EST (#1)
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"You know, if you did a little research instead of reading MRA websites, you'd learn that birth rates are related to the economic factors, not feminism. Agricultural societies have higher birth rates because having more children benefits the family farming efforts. Industrial societies have lower birth rates because kids cost money to raise in such environments."
Perhaps the person making that statement at that blog can't see the proverbial forest for the lack of trees in all those overpopulated industrial areas. I see over population as one of the main reason people don't have children.
Economic factors??? Most agricultural societies these days are poorer than the big industrial powers. Maybe there is more land in the agricultural areas, therefore less congestion, therefore more room for people. It appears to me human population density is a factor in the perception of humans, causing individuals not to have children, causing populations to decline. Of course, density in the minds of gender feminists may be an even bigger factor in lack of desire of many humans to procreate. Who would want to bring a little child into a world so much under that vile influence of gender feminist ideology as it is today?
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:53 AM October 1st, 2005 EST (#2)
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Was really quite good.
I highly recommend going through this. The first 1/3 is probably the best. Very precise arguments.
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by Anonymous User on 11:58 AM October 1st, 2005 EST (#3)
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Feminism can munch my butt.
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by n.j. on 08:20 AM October 3rd, 2005 EST (#4)
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Extremely long posts, spelling mistakes all the time, comparisons ranging from Marx to Hitler.. oh my, who's supposed to take that seriously?
Of course, the other side isn't any better: murder being the #1 reason for deaths of pregnant women? Both ridiculous and disproven.
Personally I'm pro abortion, as long as it's being done fairly early AND men get the same rights of giving up responsibility.
Abortion is being used as an easy way out, I have heard the proof with my own ears ("no problem, if something goes wrong, I could have an abortion").
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by n.j. on 08:24 AM October 3rd, 2005 EST (#5)
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..wasting time on some 3rd class blog is also not smart.
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by Anonymous User on 02:08 PM October 3rd, 2005 EST (#6)
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Its true that men dont share the physical risks of baring children.
However, baring the child is the woman’s decision and her decision alone. If the man is not on board he should not be held accountable for a decision that was not his, post conception. Choice is irrelevent until conception occurs. At conception BOTH a woman and a man need to have a choice in continuing with a potential parenting relationship with a potential child.
Women have the ability to walk away from an unwanted pregnancy via adoption, abandonement, or abortion - and do so over 1 million times a year in the US. This decision allows her to continue her education, her career, or to go to Europe if she so chooses. Why this “right” is given to women and not to men is purely sex discrimination. Just because she has a uterus she can decide for BOTH of them??!!! Outrageous!!
Reproductive self determination must be given to both sexes - or women are doomed to continue to be denigrated by the dependence they so much want to avoid by having the choice of abortion to begin with.
Lets start all over and start talking equality within the realm of reproductive choices. Either over turn Roe v Wade for the sexist discrimination that it is or provide a male equivalence of “abortion” by allowing him a legal chance to sign away his rights as a legal parent.
After all - that is what women have today.
Its only fair and right to provide males the same right.
Women have the ability to walk away, and do.
Men need the same ability.
It is folly to think a woman makes an “independent” choice to bring a child to term - and then turns around and asks (demands!) someone to pay for her decision.
While feminists cry “don’t tell me what to do with my body” they want the right to tell men what to do with theirs - by entrapping them to 20+ years of financial extorsion.
And yes, women admit to this on various websites.
It’s all about equality - the equal right to reproductive self determination.
Just like women have today.
Right now they get to chose with whom and when they want to have a baby - and men need that same ability to plan their lives.
It is in the best interst of the child and the family.
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by khankrumthebulgar on 09:36 AM October 9th, 2005 EST (#7)
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It is sad to say but Feminism has damaged our Women beyond repair. The only solution is the complete collapse of Western Civilization and an end to Feminism. If Men refuse to have sex with Western Women and refuse to Father any children with them. Feminism will die. Feminists have no interest in equity in relationships with Men. They hate us and ideas to the contrary are Delusional. They started the Gender War. We must fight this war and stop making excuses for trying to accomadate their wishes.
Who cares what they want. Screw their approval. I don't give a damn if Women approve of me anymore. They don't or cannot decide what they want themselves. And as far as reproduction and responsibility give me a break. Who is driving the
Raunch Culture? Women are. Even the media acknowledges this reality. Young Women dress like whores. As they have lost their feminity and are acting like Men.
That our Public Policy makers just renewed VAWA 2005 for more FemNag Pork tells us they could care less about the Anti-Male bias. Conservatives voted for it as well as Liberals. I am turning my back on the Republicans as they are Pussy whipped cowards. More demonization of men and destruction of families subsidized with my tax dollars.
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ArtflDgr writes "A friend (whose name I will not divulge) was a bit perturbed at a kind of protest of Roberts on abortion grounds and ended up getting into a large discusion on abortion and such in relation to men's rights. You have to page down to get to some great stuff!