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by Anonymous User on 11:36 AM February 16th, 2005 EST (#1)
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All that came up was the dreaded "CANNOT FIND SERVER" thingy.
Anyway the banning of "gender differece" studies is no suprise. Sweden has really gone off the deep end, these days. They are very socialistic and feministic. The big buckett heads...,
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Cain on 02:17 PM February 16th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Columnist Carl Hamilton in Aftonbladet writes about a very troubling conflict between science and politics in Sweden. My translation:
The government bans opinions on men's and women's brains
In one respect Sweden's government is unique in the world. It has a definite opinion about a scientific controversy: whether women's and man's brains are different, or not. The first time i realised that the government had involved itself in neurobiology, was when gender equality minister [! - ed] Jens Orback in a speech about sexual deviations and living with horses [!!! - ed], affirmed:
- The government considers female and male as social constructions, that means gender patterns are created by upbringing, culture, economical conditions, power structures and political ideology.
Apart from taking a position on this scientific question, the government has deiced to side with the most extreme researchers: gene theoreticians who for ideological reasons state that biology can not have any saying in explaining why male and female behaviour differs.
This reminds me about the Soviet biologist Trofim Lysenko. Lysenko was by Stalin proclaimed a scientific genius and his "creative darwinism" was hailed as a huge step forward for genetic research. Lysenko argued that learned traits could be inherited and that by manipulating the environment one could easily cause fundamental changes in plants and animals. Career hungry politicians loved him. Ideology meant everything, experiment and science nothing.
The real scientists, who protested, were cleaned out (and executed).
One of the reasons I write this is that the county government (länsstyrelsen) in Norrbotten has banned the publication of a book about gender equality because it contains an interview with a scientist who argues that the difference between men and women is not only caused by the environment, but a combination of inheritance and environment.
According to professor Annica Dahlström, one of the world's leading neurobiologists, men's and women's brains are different. Thus she has entered an area where Sweden's government has already ruled what is scientifically true and false.
The result is that the book is being censored. The county government has demanded that the interview with Dahlström has to be removed, or there will be no money and no book.
The county government doesn't hide what this is about:
- Since our job is to execute Swedish policy, we cannot stand behind a book that expresses these opinions.
Thus, no deviating opinions about gender roles, especially not if they happen to be correct.
If the Swedish governent decided that the Earth is flat, all Swedes would fall over the edge.
PS: We remember the controversy around Harvard President Lawrence Summers.
Update: Those who read Swedish may want to read the concurring editiorial from Dagens Nyheter, which also gives the full banned interview with Annica Dahlström. From the editorial:
"Our Swedish gender equality policy is based on us being equal and being socialised into different gender roles," declared Britt-Marie Lugnet-Häggberg in the Wednesday DN. "Annica Dahlström is an essentialist feminist (särartsfeministisk) and believes that boys and girls are totally different. The county government cannot publish material with that opinion."
One should believe that the gender equality director is joking. But she is not.
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 02:26 PM February 16th, 2005 EST (#3)
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I found the link worked OK.
"...it is somewhat amusing to see a book being banned not only for promoting a mainstream scientific opinion, but also for promoting a heretical branch of feminism".
Book banning? Is this really Sweden we're talking about? The government which passed this law is going to end up looking ridiculous. Just not soon enough.
Feminism will continue as long as there is money to be made from hating men.
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by Anonymous User on 03:41 PM February 16th, 2005 EST (#4)
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The notion that men and women are different has been used to justify the following:
Conscription of men but not of women
Double standards in sentencing for sex with minors
More men in prison and on death row
Greater public acceptance of violence against men
Blatant bias against fathers in family courts
Neglect of men's health needs (e.g., life span gap)
Et cetera, et cetera
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by Roy on 05:19 PM February 16th, 2005 EST (#5)
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The Swedes seem to be playing the role of the canary in the mineshaft.
Feminism has been "progressing" with determination for over forty years to criminalize maleness, and then, to ban all thought that can be condemned as "patriarchal."
Recall that Canada's esteemed S.O.W. has attempted to use hate crime laws to ban men's rights web sites?
Have there been any recent studies about the crisis in testosterone levels among "Swedish males?" (Fast becoming an oxymoron ...)
Talk about willingly walking to the gallows!
"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear."
- Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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by Cain on 05:51 PM February 16th, 2005 EST (#7)
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The reality that men and women are differant has not been used to justify anything. Its been the denial of that reality and the replacing of it with an open ended definition of "equality" that has justified most of the things you've listed so far. And its the female willingness to distort and manipulate that definition of equality at every turn, simply to serve their ends, that has created the truly frightening results we see displayed here by the government of Sweden.
This is no minor annoyance gentlemen, but a pattern we have seen replayed time and time again throughout history. When we give up our attatchment to the truth simply in order to avoid political discomfort, what we have done in essence is dismantle the only lever we have in dealing with the powers that be.
When the political power of the land no longer has to bow to, or even acknowledge the truth,then gentlemen we are in very serious times indeed.
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by Anonymous User on 12:28 AM February 17th, 2005 EST (#8)
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Bear in mind that the "there is no difference" crowd seems to fully support all those items.
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by Anonymous User on 11:22 AM February 17th, 2005 EST (#9)
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Ragtime- I couldn't agree more.
Perhaps we should start refering to the femnags as the "feminist reich", or something like that.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Cain writes "Swedish government