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Fox News Reports Male-Bashing Outrage
posted by D on Saturday October 25, @04:10PM
from the Fascism dept.
News Michael Phillip Wright writes "This Fox News story is about how I came under suspicion of being a "stalker," just because I tried to contact a woman to return her lost student ID card, which I had found. Unfortunately writer McElroy made some mistakes. The town is Norman -- not "Normal." I am 56 -- not a "young man." Also I am not an OU student. Here is the link to the Fox story "

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Re: Your Reputation (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Saturday October 25, @07:51PM EST (#1)
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Do you feel that your reputation has been harmed? Has there been adverse repercussions as a result of this incident and your name being in the news as a stalker or possible stalker?

Have you considered suing this girl? Have you considered doing this on principal... to cause other women to not be so callous and consider the possible permanent harm to a man's reputation before jumping to conclusions?

Dittohd

Whoops. (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Saturday October 25, @07:56PM EST (#2)
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Excuse me, that's "principle", not "principal".

Dittohd

Surprise (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday October 25, @08:30PM EST (#3)
At the end of the day, 'mistakes' by feminists, even "man friendly" feminists, surprise me not at all. A feminist is a feminist and they are all marxist filth. They are driving western society to the brink of extinction with the birth rate droping to 1.6 here in the UK, our only salvation is the resurgence of extreme conservatism and nationalism in the UK, in the form of the British National Party.

Call me racist if you want, (and off topic!!, LOL) but I have had enough of Orwellian Political Correctness and will say what I, and many of my family and friends, feel.

Todays UK would have Winston Churchill turning in his grave.
Re:Surprise (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Sunday October 26, @04:03AM EST (#5)
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The trouble with Europe is that people from all those old colonies (in Africa and the Middle East and whatnot) are "coming home to roost" and destroying the culture. I've seen what is going on in France: Arabs move in and the town goes to hell, everyone driving two inches off each other's bumpers. This happens because that is the way driving is done in Arab nations. I have a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia, he told me they drive in the most insane manner imagineable.

Drive through Lyon in the middle of the day, you'll see. You take an extant culture and you introduce a foreign culture, if there are enough people from the foreign culture the extant culture is destroyed. They don't want to be "assimilated," they want the nice life of your country and they want to bring their own ways in and they want to override your ways whenever there is a conflict. It happened in the USA when Europeans came in and totally dominated the natives. It's happening today in Europe, too - only, instead of Native Americans becoming extinct due to exposure to diseases they had no genetic resistance to, and being herded into reservations, it's Europeans going extinct because feminism has destroyed the idea of the family, and Arabs (who, for their faults, at least have some idea of what a family is) replacing them.

I am afraid feminism will cause a huge thinning in the European bloodlines of the world.
Re:Surprise (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday October 26, @07:59AM EST (#6)
It's reached the point now in the UK where refugees and asylum seekers are getting spat on in the street, and a lot of them carry knives as they have a habit of getting their heads kicked in after dark in some towns.

I know a lot of people who run their own businesses, and most of them refuse to do business with refugees.

With the Conservative party in disarray, the BNP is the only remaining party which will tackle the problem, and the public's animosity towards the European Union is driving us farther to the right all the time.
Re:Surprise (Score:2)
by rage on Sunday October 26, @11:36AM EST (#7)
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Hey man, when did you go to France ? Did you visit Paris ?

I'm French myself.

Re:Surprise (Score:1)
by Adam H (adam@mensactivism.org) on Sunday October 26, @12:04PM EST (#8)
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What you are starting to see here is, the emergence of a pro-white racial consciousness, that's been denied for too long. And yep, it looks like a race revolution is pretty much pre-determined.


Re:Surprise (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Sunday October 26, @11:47PM EST (#14)
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I doubt there will be a race revolution, but I do agree that there is a pro-white racial consciousness on the rise.

Every OTHER group calling themselves a race has one, so it is natural that we should have one as well. And we really need it.

Having been raised a liberal, in a liberal family, it has taken me a long time to actually think for myself about these things. I have taken a lot of abuse from people of other races for being white. We do need to wise up to what's going on, instead of the same old "oh I'm a white male oppressor and I need to feel sorry for the people who are deliberately making my life hard" types.
Re:Surprise (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday October 27, @12:57AM EST (#15)

"We do need to wise up to what's going on, instead of the same old "oh I'm a white male oppressor and I need to feel sorry for the people who are deliberately making my life hard" types."

It is better to live a day as a Free Man (any color will do) than a lifetime under the jack boot heel of militant feminism.

The race card (in my opinion) is just one more card those hate monger bigots in the militant feminist throw out and use to divide men into smaller less powerful groups. In L.A. we are trying to reach out to those smaller men's groups in their community and unite to have a common voice about issues that affect all men (false allegations, child support, custody, paternity fraud, men's health, etc.)

I certainly think it is fine for "all" racial groups to get together and celebrate the good things they have done, including whites.

Heck, I'm of pure German ancestry, but my cousin died in France after landing at Omaha beach a week or two after D-day. He served under Patton. There were numerous other patriots in my family who've paid their dues for America. Yet, there has been no end to people (most significantly militant feminists) who have tried to make me feel bad about my heritage. They are deeply imbued by the prejudices they incessantly spew and they unceasingly wallow in the hatred they have spawned. Every evil that has walked the earth has had it's day, but in the end it is people of goodwill who sustain the species.

Hang in there folks, these days, we are all we've got.

Sincerely, Ray

I know not what course other people may take, but as for me, “It is better to live a day as a Free Man than a lifetime under the jack boot heel of militant feminism.”

Re:Surprise (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Monday October 27, @02:49PM EST (#19)
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It is truly better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
Re:Surprise (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 28, @09:32PM EST (#29)
The race card (in my opinion) is just one more card those hate monger bigots in the militant feminist throw out and use to divide men into smaller less powerful groups.

You're preaching the truth, brother. Men of any color are men. Stand up for all men!!!
Retort (Score:1)
by LSBeene on Tuesday October 28, @05:01AM EST (#22)
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True, but us Christian men are strongest when on our knees. =)
Peace
      Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Besides (Score:1)
by LSBeene on Tuesday October 28, @05:03AM EST (#23)
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I can't resist this one, sorry:
Besides, my sweet bride and I LIKE to exchange being on our knees. Keeps us both smilin'!!
Hey, a little humor is a good thing.
Peace
      Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Re:Retort (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Tuesday October 28, @11:22AM EST (#26)
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Falling to your knees before God is very different from being driven to your knees by a human.

By the way, you just opened yourself up to a terrible joke. :P

Oh I knew I was opening myself up for that one (Score:1)
by LSBeene on Tuesday October 28, @05:35PM EST (#28)
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No, I was not belittling you comment, but rather just I couldn't resist the PERFECT opportunity.
1) being crushed under someone's "jackboot", especially using the law, that was intended to serve justice to people - not bring injustice, is cruel. I think today's laws, on many levels and on many subjects, have been pushed through by special interest groups whose mottos should be "fair for me, fair for you if there is room left over"
2) As a Christian (and one who succeeds and fails on a daily basis) that is where I find my peace when the issues I promote are struggling. I feel passionately for father's rights. I may not share all of everyone here's views, but I feel the current laws are misused in the name of "the best interests of the children" when in reality its just the best WANT of a person (the mother). Laws favoring men over women, or the converse, are just plain out and out wrong. Period.
3) and now to my little crack ... ummm .. I love my honey bunny and we are both ... err .. nice to each other ... On second thought, I will just leave this one alone. No, I WILL say this: my wife is the best gift God ever gave me. I am way lucky in who my bride is and what concepts of marraige she brings to the table. Nuff said.
To all ...
      Peace
            Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Re:Surprise (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Sunday October 26, @11:44PM EST (#13)
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I went to France a while back. Didn't make it to Paris, but I did visit the southern part, around the Dordogne river. Rocamadour, etc. Very nice place. Lots of people driving old Citroen 2CVs around.

And of course I passed through Lyon, which is when I learned about the heavy Arab population, and the way they are accustomed to driving.
Re:Surprise (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday October 27, @11:41AM EST (#17)
Cathy Young is a very well known Objectivist Libertarian, not a Marxist. If that is who you were referring to. This site isn't much about race. Personally I'd like to think people of any race might visit and feel welcome here, and in any larger men's movement.
Use of the term, "FEMINIST" (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday October 27, @01:45PM EST (#18)
"A feminist is a feminist and they are all Marxist filth."

I have written in the past how some women today, still using the term feminist in their i.d,. is like trying to take a donut that's been dropped in filth and just brushing the filth off and eating it. The term feminist is a very soiled term these days, and I for one often tend to use it in the negative sense without differentiating. I wish the good feminists would find a different way of i.d.ing themselves.

That being said, here is how I try to make sense of it all:

radical feminists - Marxist filth
gender feminists - Marxist filth
equity feminists - an even handed approach that tries to keep the original goals of the 70's for women, before feminism became perverted and a dirty word. Christina Hoff-Sommers, Who Stole Feminism & The War Against Boys, author is a E-fem. I see that she is active in the IWF, Independent Women's Forum, and I like what they have been doing on college campuses so much in the name of women, that I have sent them money.

I-feminist - Wendy McElroy is an I-fem and one of battered men's stanches supporters. I love the writings of Wendy and don't think I've ever seen much of anything I disagreed with. If all women today were I-feminists, men would not be having all of these nightmares. Wendy is very intelligent, enlightened, articulate, and I consider her to be nobody's fool. Wendy to the best of my knowledge is a Libertarian and I believe someone else identified Cathy Young as a Libertarian as well. Cathy Young tries very, very hard to be fair and objective to all. I do appreciate very much the perspective of Cathy Young, and always read what she has to say. She is a gifted writer in her own right, just not one I am fully in agreement with on some points. In some of her articles I think she somewhat misses the male perspective, but hey, she's a woman and not a man. That's not bad or good, just different (contrary to what militant feminists teach).

Trudy Shuett does not identify herself as a feminist to the best of my knowledge, but as a woman. Trudy is an outstanding writer, and one of the most decent and kind people I have come to know through her written words. There's a lot to be said for anyone who makes a real effort to be kind and fair, and in my opinion, no higher praise can be offered to anyone than that.

The CWA, Concerned Women of America is a powerful, large conservative women's organization that militant feminists hate and love to vilify. Obviously CWA does not identify itself as "feminist." Awhile back they gave NOW a real run for their money in top level meetings at the United Nations, and I absolutely loved what these ladies were accomplishing. Sandy Rios is their president, and Beverly LaHaye is, I believe, founder of the organization.

I tend to put the 1st two groups mentioned (radical feminists, gender feminists) under the term militant feminists and use that in most of my writings, when referring to their ilk. I had a woman about a month back tell me that it was wrong to mention feminists in a negative light in a protest we were having, but I enlightened her to what all the different shades of feminism were and she seemed more confused than enlightened when I had finished.

Again, the word feminist is a very soiled, tainted word, and my personal wish would be that all women of good will drop the term and use something else so that those women who behave like Nazis can have that word all to themselves.

I for one don't see anyone trying to resurrect that ugly word (Nazi) and use in for anything good. However the Swastika goes back to ancient Greek times, at least, and was used on shields of warriors for good luck. Some American aviators painted that symbol on their airplanes for good luck in W.W.I. Today it is identified as such a hateful symbol that it is considered a hate crime to paint a Swastika in some places, and it is highly frowned on to display a Swastika, publically, anywhere.

In the more recent "herstory" of the past 30 years so many "feminists" have committed so many hate crimes against men and families, that it has become a term that is repulsive and highly offensive to many, many people. Therefore, it is my opinion that it too should fall into the ranks of the most shunned and reviled words of all times.

Please wise up, you ladies who are still using it. It is insensitive to use the term "feminist," because of all the abuse that has come out of the militant feminist movement. Please consider showing more sensitivity to the down trodden and battered men and families who cringe every time they hear word "feminist," because of their association with the "pogrom" that has been waged against them.

When a car has 300,000 miles on it, has been in 4 or 5 car wrecks, and has been used in several armed robberies, and murders it is a good idea to either get a new car or walk. That old vehicle isn't going to get you anywhere that's a good place to be as far as I can see. Likewise, it is my opinion that it is time for the word "feminist" to be retired to the scrap heap of trashed words that are no longer fit for decent people to use, except when reviling the hatred it has come to be a metaphor for.

Well thought out (Score:1)
by LSBeene on Tuesday October 28, @05:07AM EST (#24)
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I like the differences pointed out. Well put. I go to iFeminist site to read Wendy's and other's posts. I have a LOT of respect for that woman, both personally and as a writer. Long story, but she earned both. I do have a question for the above poster: Is Beverly LaHaye .... is that Tim LaHaye's wife? I have read his books and like them tons.
Peace
        Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Re:Well thought out (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 28, @09:52AM EST (#25)
yes
OU Student (Score:1)
by LSBeene on Sunday October 26, @03:59AM EST (#4)
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I am not very surprised. I went to college from 1990-1993 and then again 1994-1996. During those years I saw over and over how the PC strangle hold got tighter and tighter.
      The many services offered on campuses sound noble. Those like "the women's center" or "women's studies" or many other benign sounding construct that have many anti-male leanings. The ideas tossed around in these groups are very anti-male. it makes me wonder how so many women can be so gullible or end up so mean. I mean it is almost like some systemic cult brainwashing. Helping and protecting women ... why does this seem to equate to depriving men of rights, suspecting people solely on the basis of gender, and silencing critics. It's just scary. I am glad you didn't do anything "foolish" like try to return the woman's ID. If you had, you could have been seriously charged with stalking.
Peace
      Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Your liberated lady so get tough or die like a man (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday October 26, @01:47PM EST (#9)
I think one of the biggest mistakes that gullible followers of militant feminism make is that they swallow the militant feminist agenda hook, line, and sinker, and from that point on they fail to differentiate between "decent men" and males who are "outright criminals." In their twisted reasoning all men are part of the evil patriarchy that oppresses women, all men are rapists, murders, criminals. After all, women's studies teaches that all heterosexual sex is rape so naturally all men are, or desire to be, criminals.

All women in America become the losers as a result of the militant feminist agenda. When it comes to common courtesy these days, I will show more to a man than a woman. "Why, because your gay," is probably your 1st response? "Absolutely not," is my reply. The simple truth is that any interaction with any female you don't know is highly dangerous as this story proves irrefutably. I do not believe this story is an extreme or an exception, but the norm (or what is rapidly becoming the norm).

As this story proves, anything a chivalrous man (fool) might do for a woman can be turned completely around and used against him, and any female lie or paranoia will do as proof. Theses days any lie a woman tells is more believed than any truth a man tells(i.e. Kobe Bryant). We have militant feminists and their women's studies classes exclusively to thank for that.

So, any woman in trouble, whether she's your mother, your daughter, your sister, your grandma, etc., if I don't know her she's on her own. Even if I know her I'm highly, suspicious of any interaction with the opposite sex. It's just that dangerous today.

A while back a little old lady in the market asked my if I would pop the seal on a jar of fruit (twist the lid), because she couldn't do it. Hey, that's a hard one for even me so I understand what she was asking this BIG STRONG MAN to do. Grandma, probably hadn't been as brainwashed into militant feminism as the younger women of America. However, I refused and said, "You'd better get one of the store clerks to do that. I don't want to get into trouble." "What trouble," she replied? "I'm sorry, I'm not going to do it," I politely replied, "You'll have to get a clerk." I momentarily felt a little tinge of conscience as I saw her perplexed look, but it went away quickly, because I have become a liberated man conditioned to the abuses of militant feminism in our society, and I felt reassured by the knowledge that I was merely using painfully acquired defense mechanisms to protect myself from further female exploitation and abuse.

As Warren Farrell said twenty or thirty years ago, the only thing men forgot to do when they supported women's liberation was to free themselves in the process. He also said, “When one sex wins, both lose.” I would take that one step further and say, “When militant feminist’s win both sexes lose.

Thanks to the hatefulness and paranoia that the militant feminists have injected into every male/female interaction in society today, it will be a long time before women see liberated men rushing to their causes ever again.

LET FREE MEN RING!

Sincerely, Ray

Re:Your liberated lady so get tough or die like a (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday October 26, @02:25PM EST (#10)
Because of the statements in the above post I'm sure some people will say that I'm a misogynist, but a more accurate description would simply be, "'shell shocked,'" by the constant barrage of abuse from militant american feminists, endlessly hurled at all men."

Sincerely, Ray

Re: Not Shell-shocked... Just Seeing Clearly (Score:1)
by Roy on Sunday October 26, @08:10PM EST (#11)
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Well Ray,

You're neither misogynist nor shell-shocked, merely behaving prudently as a man who has correctly assessed the 24 x 7 peril of the gender-fascist culture in which you live.

You are entirely correct in stating that every interaction with a female in today's predatory anti-male legal environment is an invitation to lose your liberty, have your possessions appropriated, and your livelihood destroyed.

This is the "benefit" that feminism has bestowed upon our once-great nation.

Today, all men are prey. It's that simple.

Of course, it's the evil Patriarchy that conspired to invent tightly sealed jar lids that the poor, innocent, weak-wristed females cannot seem to open by themselves....

Another Darwinian lesson, should one care to observe...


"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." - Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
Even when men do right - they're wrong! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday October 26, @09:31PM EST (#12)
"Of course, it's the evil Patriarchy that conspired to invent tightly sealed jar lids that the poor, innocent, weak-wristed females cannot seem to open by themselves...."

Sealing foods through the canning process helped stop the spoilage of food and thereby improved the quality of life for all, but the sinister evil patriarchy was really only working another of their endless cruelties against women through jar lids that made them dependent on men's superior strength. This is just one more example of how the "evil patriarchy" used its "logic" to wield power and control over women. Men invented and produced a jar lid that only macho men could open (without a strap wrench - also invented by men).

Give me the good old days, when we had to run down and kill meat on the hoof. I miss barfing my intestines out from the left overs the day after, when all those little microbes had started living in the spoiled food. Spoiled food did help to kill off the old and the young though. Now women are cruelly forced through this invention of men to dispose of their unwanted young through abortion, and the old just sit around using up resources that could better be used by females.

Oh the cruelty of men to take all that away from us with their clever knack for "modern inventions" Now their "modern invention" endlessly teases little old ladies with tight jar lids they can never open. Oh the inhumanity of men's tyrannical plots.

Thanks Roy, for pointing out how only the enlightened militant feminists could see the real plan of the "evil patriarchy" in all this. Where, oh where, would the world be without the brilliance of the militant feminists? Answer: back in the cave eating rotten meat and listening to the females complain about it.

I have to go now. I have a lost wallet to return.

Ray

Re:Even when men do right - they're wrong! (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Monday October 27, @01:28AM EST (#16)
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>I have to go now. I have a lost wallet to return.

A guy's wallet, I hope. Otherwise, I'd suggest throwing it away.

Dittohd

At Cal Poly Pomona (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Monday October 27, @02:54PM EST (#20)
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there is a club office with purple plastic police tape stretched across the windows. The tape reads:

     RAPE FREE ZONE

What are they trying to say about the rest of the campus? It seems like fearmongering to me.
Re:At Cal Poly Pomona (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday October 27, @07:39PM EST (#21)
...and what club might that be?

Ray
Re:At Cal Poly Pomona (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Tuesday October 28, @02:34PM EST (#27)
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I forget right now, some women's club or office of (insert feminist-sounding term here). I don't have any reason to go around there so I only see it on rare occasions.
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