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...'cause I am a confirmed bachellor. Nevertheless, I am concerned about those who choose to get married.
14 years... you know, there are people who KILL and don't spend that long behind bars.
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You may never get convicted of marital rape but there is still "date rape" and all the degrees of "attempted rape" which can get you just as much time as an actual act involving intercourse.
Basically, all it comes down to is HER word against yours. And juries know that women and children NEVER lie about these things. And compounding the situation middle aged males in black sheets just love to kow tow to the feminist agenda at your expense meaning that the bastard has the power to prevent anything that may help your case from being heard by the jury.
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Don't forget the story about the man that just happened to fit the *description* a woman gave and was convicted even though he was not even in the city when the rape occured.
R
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by Anonymous User on Monday September 22, @10:00AM EST (#3)
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I first heard about William from EJF. This case is a classic travesty of justice.
Throwing away a life is a horrible thing to do, especially when the victim is innocent.
"I have no confidence in any aspect of our blatantly misandrist American legal system, which embraces principles of Nazism," and that is exactly what I will be telling the judge when I am enpaneled, and asked to serve on a jury.
Of course when I am 1st sworn in, and asked if I will serve on a jury I will say, "Yes, under duress." That's because the law holds a gun to the head of civilians and makes them serve on juries. If they do not, they are fined, imprisoned or worse. That's duress!
A judge once told me that it was my "duty" to serve on juries. Hogwash! "My duty to ever serve on any jury for the rest of my life was abrogated when my constitutional rights were trampled by the legal system, and my good name and reputation unlawfully taken from me."
I will not willingly serve any black robed, hate monger tyrant who pimps justice out to his special interest feminist whores and then has the stupidity and audacity to lecture me about my duty to serve willingly on a jury.
If by some miracle I do wind up on a jury in this country, I will nullify it to high heaven. I will not willing serve any government that supports aspects of Nazism, and that's what unconstitutional feminist laws are. Yes, I pay my taxes, but under duress. "For the rest of my life, any duty that I have to serve this government I do fully comply with, and I do completely fulfill, but only under duress."
Show me the justice!
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on Monday September 22, @10:52PM EST (#5)
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If by some miracle I do wind up on a jury in this country, I will nullify it to high heaven. I will not willing serve any government that supports aspects of Nazism, and that's what unconstitutional feminist laws are.
I don't know if I would classify what we are fighting as Nazisism. I just got through reading a major historical piece on communism and find that those tactics fit more. However, on the conservative side I do believe we are fighting against Nazi ideals.
Basically, I find the following similarities to communism:
- Thought control via pseudo-democratic institutions.
- The agenda of the destruction of the traditional family.
- The random assignment of children to any male as the father regardless of genetics.
- An outright agenda of self-criticism intended to force thought control upon the masses using the mechanism of political correctness.
- The outright seizing of all male assets by the state.
- The substitution of "best interest of the children" for the term middle class to justify seizing assets of all middle and upper class males.
- The use of propaganda to further the agenda of the left to oppress males.
- The use of any false allegation to justify criminalizing any male and disenfranching them.
This list of course is much longer, but you get the idea. The feminist have admitted to borrowing their philosophies from Marx. When questioned they even admit that they believe in the transfer of wealth from the able to those in need at the whim of the government that is controlled by the feminists bigots.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday September 24, @07:10AM EST (#15)
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"I just got through reading a major historical piece on communism and find that those tactics fit more."
Warble:
Your list does describe a major part of their philosophy and ideologies. It's just a little hard to see, when they have the heel of their jack boot tyranny squarely on your throat and bear down with the effects of all that oppressiveness.
Although their philosophy follows many aspects of communism, their tactics, modus operandi, and effects are straight out of the third reich in my opinion.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday September 24, @07:13AM EST (#16)
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"The feminist have admitted to borrowing their philosophies from Marx."
They may have borrowed their philosophies from Marx, but their "kampf" appears to have evolved to another level.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on Monday September 22, @04:35PM EST (#4)
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Let's face it, men now inhabit a society that has given over to women the legal power to destroy any man's life with one phone call or a single false accusation.
Between the outrageous discrimination of our DV system, the pervasive injustice of family courts, and the criminalization of male sexuality via rape and marital rape laws, it's become obvious that this culture and its government lackies have declared war on men.
In most states, rape has become any act of sexual intimacy that a woman later decides she regrets.
Rape laws typically provide the woman up to thirty days after the act to "decide" whether it was consensual or not.
Ponder just for a moment the opportunities for coercion and blackmail that this legal abberation presents for any disgruntled gal...
With research showing that anywhere from 40% to 60% of all rape accusations are false, and with no penalties for destroying a man's life and livelihood with a false charge, what we've got in this great nation is a free license for women to become tyrants and terrorists.
Bottom line is clear -- every time a man beds a woman he risks his liberty, his property, and his very livelihood.
And guess what? Just because you're married to the potential terrorist you're boffing doesn't give you one iota of safety!
Mind your manners boys... SHE might decide to make that 911 call if you step out of line!
What a world.
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by Anonymous User on Monday September 22, @11:08PM EST (#6)
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Project Innocence has now freed 136 convicted men and 1 concivcted woman based on DNA evidence.
THESE MEN WERE WRONGLY CONVICTED OF RAPE OR MURDER.
Now then, concerning the rape cases, these are cases where it is clear through DNA testing that the woman had sex with someone else. These are cases were DNA proved the convicted man did not commit the rape.
Now then, imagine having sex, sharing your DNA with a woman, then being falsely accussed of rape. DNA will never be able to aquit you no matter what the truth is. I wonder how many poor men are out there rotting in jails right now under this scenario? I don't see anyone lining up in the media to try and find this out either, but based on the sucess of the innocence project you just know there in the jails.
I'm attracted to women. I even find intimate relations with them pelasurable, only these days that's about as safe, or responsible as drinking a 5th and getting behind the wheel of an automobile.
Don't drink and drive, don't reach into a box full of rattlesnakes, and don't have sex with women. All are very dangerous and risky behavior. The later is probably the most dangerous, because the predator first lulls you into a false sense of security before taking action to destroy you.
Ray
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"With research showing that anywhere from 40% to 60% of all rape accusations are false..."
Do you have citation for this? I don't think I've seen that statistic before, but if it is true then it could be very useful in debate.
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Yes, check out chapter 14 of Warren Farrell's ground-breaking book, "Myth of Male Power". The chapter is titled "The Politics of Rape", and it uncovers the 'other' side of the rape debate. The DC chapter of NCFM-DC has put much of the chapter online, in response to the Kobe Bryant case. For specific information about the "40-60% rape accusations being false, check out URL http://www.ncfm-dc.org/issues/rape/kobebryant.html .
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday September 23, @05:05PM EST (#11)
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My earlier point was simply that the disciminatory pathology that dominates our current legal injustice system makes it possible for ANY / EVERY woman to destroy ANY / EVERY man with one phone call and a single false accusation.
Once the 911 call goes through to the state Gestapo, the man is dead meat on a hook.
No 14th amendment rights of due process, no "innocence until proven guilty."
Say goodbye to your home, your kids, your income, your career, your reputation, et. al.
All gone, gone, gone.
Gentlemen, we have done this to ourselves, by grieviously underestimating the visciousness of the feminazi movement; indeed, by tacitly supporting it with our naive sense of chivalry and our eons-old tradition of serving and protecting females.
The plantation mentality among men today is startling and tragic.
Eventually, slaves will revolt. But only when they truly realize that the forces allied against them warrant resistance and insurrection.
It's gonna be an interesting awakening....
Indeed, we're on the verge of a major shift in gender consciousness in this nation!
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday September 23, @07:39PM EST (#12)
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"Gentlemen, we have done this to ourselves..................major shift in gender consciousness in this nation."
The passage above (just 6 sentences in all) is the best analysis of the gender issue that I've ever seen. Quite brilliant. Hoping to see more posts from you. The mens movement needs men of your calibre if we are to combat the injustices suffered by men such as William Hetherington.
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday September 23, @09:54PM EST (#13)
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While I appreciate the kind words, I am like almost all men everywhere just now waking up to the gravity of our struggle, and its implications for collective action.
We (men) live today in a truly perilous environment which, sadly, we helped by our complaisance to bring about.
Until we refute and legally overturn the discriminatory injustice industry built on the feminists' corrupt "victim power" regime, there will be only pervasive gender turmoil and the further destuction of men's lives and families.
The good news is that we are reaching a critical mass of awareness based on the pervasive distress and pain that men, women, and children everywhere are feeling, thanks to the dreadful legacy of feminist fascism and its outcomes.
"It's a terrible thing.... living in fear."
- Roy: Hunted Replicant in (Ripley Scott's masterpiece film) Blade Runner.
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday September 23, @06:35AM EST (#8)
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"This is the saddest article I have ever read"
Frankly, it was more sickening than saddening. Like reading about one of those victims of the Nazi concentration camps.
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Why it's hard for us to build a Men's Coalition:
-----We, men and women, are indoctrinated by "feminist" messages. Over and over only one side is presented. The problem is also, and we need to be honest folks, is that many PEOPLE DO abuse and rape. Those stories are shown in the media and have movies made. Conversely, remember those two Dallas cowboys who were falsely accused? For DAYS the media had the story on almost every hour. Once the video showed the men's innocence the only follow up was the "women's rights groups" demand of jailing the men for HAVING the video. (to anyone who wants to discuss WHY he had the video E-mail me, it's interesting. steven.beene@us.army.net
-----Most men have no clue how bad it is until it happens to them. Due to the stereotypes put out those who are accused of sexual-assual/DV/child-molestation are social pariahs. Their stories are ignored or spun into how "they asked for it" (doesn't THAT amaze ya?). Most of the men in our movement are the ones branded as rapists/batterers/molestors. And even our friends who will cry with us in private or stick up with us in small groups don't want THEIR lives destroyed by being painted with the same brush (lets be fair to them too - its hard on them - its an unpopular stance) We men who stand up for this are stereo typed due to one thing: the disallowment of false-allegation sensitivty/recognition programs in our colleges and work places. False stataistics are put out, generalizations/stereotypes are offered as real, and endless stories of women who HAVE BEEN ABUSED are shown.
-----We allow female haters in our groups to make us look bad. I am not advocating for cesorship of speech. Look fellas (and to our WONDERFUL and APPRECIATED female readers/supporters) we should make some objective perceptions here. What do I mean? Glad ya asked: the "men's rights" movement is younger than it's female counter part. We are still, for the most part, in the ranting, raving, telling stories of mutual destruction, and offering mutual support. The women's movement was at that stage more than a decde ago. As those women grew into power positions they elected to use that power to effect change. Nothing wrong with that. What went wrong is the lust for "revenge" and control. To sum up my point: we need to be honest and objective in our reporting of statistics, support women who are abused by men, and not let our (righteous) anger be used against us.
I hope my comments were helpful
if anyone would like to E-mail me or ask me questions or just tell me their story my E-mail is:
steven.beene@us.army.mil
God Bless, keep reading, keep supporting, keep researching, and keep your tempers
Steven B
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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"""""support women who are abused by men, and not let our (righteous) anger be used against us. """"""
Sometimes I will admit it, I just don't get it. That being said, just why should men who are conscious of what is happening to men as a social class in this country support women who have been abused by other men? The whole damned law enforcement and judiciary systems are geared to support women who have been abused! But not an iota of concern for men who have been abused! It is like worrying if Bill Gates has enough money to pay his utility bills so he doesn't have to sit in the dark in front of a blank monitor! Poor baby! Why worry about it?
I think the problem here is an outmoded chivalry attitude that just aggravates the problem rather than helps.
As they say in the "hood" BUMP THAT!!!
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Luek,
We as a young movement (despite the age of our members) need to build or crediblity. I don't have fake issues on chivalry. I DO believe we should stand up for women who are abused. Why?
1) its the right thing to do
2) it gives us the same legitimacy that the "feminist" movement is losing due to their one sided views
3) it will encourage more women to support us.
I hope you see what I am trying to do
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday September 24, @07:10PM EST (#22)
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"I DO believe we should stand up for women who are abused"
Yes, but traditional "chivalry" dictates that an ALLEGATION of abuse is sufficient to have a man incarcerated for 20 years. Chivalry dictates that a particular form of conduct is acceptable if directed at a man but becomes "abusive" if directed at a woman. I do not believe women are entitled to the privileges of pre-feminist era , as they have thrown away the constraints and privileges of the pre-feminist era. I do not believe in chivalry BECAUSE I believe in justice and equality. Chivalry is allowing women to retain unjustifiable privilege and is therefore WRONG. Sure, if we support chivalry we would "encourage more women to support us". Then again if the Abolitionists had supported Slavery, they would have got more Whites to support them.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday September 25, @04:36PM EST (#23)
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Chivalry has become the feminazis best psychological weapon, because men are socialized into this "protect weak and innocent women" delusion at a very early age.
Chivalry was fine back in the day when women reciprocated men's chivalrous behavior with some degree of appreciation and respect.
Today, forget it.
Being chivalrous is as likely to get you denounced as a chauvanist pig (the chivalrous guy's alter ego) as it is to get you an appreciative "thanks" from the fembot recipient of your consideration.
In today's anti-male, feminist-poisoned society, a chivalrous man is like a plantation slave who runs for the bucket of water to help put out the fire consuming his Master's house.
The Master may express his gratitude, but he sure ain't gonna free the waterboy.
The feminazis just LOVE it when they see us keep carrying those buckets!
"Every day, the bucket goes to the well. Some day, the bottom will drop out..." (Bob Marley)
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