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Insight from TV-land
posted by Thomas on 08:50 PM December 10th, 2005
The Media Though this article has a rather stupid title and is about television (which means little to me), I found that it contains a few good insights.

As a result of thousands of interviews with young men, to determine what they want in television, Spike TV "found that men responded not only to brave and extremely competent leads but to a menagerie of characters with strikingly antisocial tendencies".

Also, the director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University, Robert Thompson, states that the enemy of the contemporary male is "the legal, cultural and social infrastructure of the nation itself."

Ya think?

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TV-land (Score:1)
by Fidelbogen on 10:44 PM December 10th, 2005 EST (#1)
"..Robert Thompson, states that the enemy of the contemporary male is "the legal, cultural and social infrastructure of the nation itself."

What is the speaker really saying here? What is the political subtext? This had damn sure better not be just another variation on "Patriarchy Hurts Men Too"!!!!

I don't own a TV myself. When I am in the mood for video entertainment, I watch DVD movies on my computer. I have a couple of favorites lined up for tonight: Dr. Strangelove and A Man for All Seasons......

-Fidelbogen-

"Feminism has a rap sheet."

Re:TV-land... Congress Is the Enemy (Score:2)
by Roy on 12:13 AM December 11th, 2005 EST (#2)
The silly mass media do not pass laws or assault men's legal rights.

Next week, the castrados in Congress will pass VAWA 2005, funding another five years of nationally sanctioned hate against men and boys.

Your male representatve is selling you to the feminazis to ensure his re-election.

Women are the least of our our problems...


Re:TV-land... Congress Is the Enemy (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 10:52 AM December 11th, 2005 EST (#4)
You are preaching to the choir here! But why is it when someone states the fact that we are all being manipulated by the "elite" in this country that so many don't want to hear it? Fear, stupidity, or just don't give a flying fornication? Tell the truth, speak clearly, and stand your ground! If we all focused our energy at the "real" problem just think what we could do!
Re:TV-land... Congress Is the Enemy (Score:2)
by Roy on 03:34 PM December 11th, 2005 EST (#7)
I used to "stand my ground," but Dr. Evil banned me for quoting Arthur Schopenhauer's essay "On Women."

At SYG, you can speak any truth except the ones that violate Dr. E.'s "rule" of avoiding generalizations about women.

You cannot, for example, state --- "All women are female."

That would get you banned.

Even less P.C. @ SYG would be to quote A.S.:

"The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflection but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies: for as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defence, and has transformed into this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the power of reasoning."

What's especially ironic is that if you read Schopenhauer's remarks objectively, they are quite complimentary about women.

Telling the truth about women is a guaranteed route to banning on some "men's rights" forums.


Re:TV-land... Congress Is the Enemy (Score:1)
by MR on 07:51 AM December 12th, 2005 EST (#9)
"I used to "stand my ground," but Dr. Evil banned me for quoting Arthur Schopenhauer's essay "On Women."

At SYG, you can speak any truth except the ones that violate Dr. E.'s "rule" of avoiding generalizations about women.

You cannot, for example, state --- "All women are female."

That would get you banned.

Even less P.C. @ SYG would be to quote A.S.:"


IMHO, everytime you feel like saying something derogatory about women, just say "gender feminists." No one will ever fault you for all the evil they have done to men.

MR - as in Men's Rights
 
Re:TV-land... Congress Is the Enemy (Score:1)
by Hunchback on 06:37 PM December 11th, 2005 EST (#8)
Your male representatve is selling you to the feminazis to ensure his re-election.


As true as the above statement is, it doesn't take into account the equal truism that power yields only to power.

As much as we would want our reps to take principled stands, it's unrealistic to expect them to stand alone against the feminazi machine, EMILY's List, and harridan demonstrators for a men's movement that is weak and nearly invisible. These are politicians, not martyrs. As Pres. Kennedy told the civil rights leaders he met with: "Make it politically possible to support you."

We must organize, recruit and gain power, anything else is just whining.

Re:TV-land... Congress Is the Enemy (Score:2)
by Roy on 08:59 PM December 12th, 2005 EST (#10)
"Make it politically possible to support you."

We must organize, recruit and gain power, anything else is just whining.

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True and true.

I believe the pivotal element will be women's pain and discomfort, when enough men join the Marriage Strike, go their own way, or just simply express that females of the modern American breed, while perhaps occasionally desirable, are no longer worth the risk of the venture into feminist-psycho land.

Change only occurs when the pain of the status quo exceeds the alternatives.

Have you ever met a feminist who was not painfully so?

(HugoBoy is the exception to the rule.... )
So what? (Score:1)
by Bert on 08:15 AM December 11th, 2005 EST (#3)
http://www.steen-online.nl/man/
Quote: "We're supposed to be sensitive and evolved and yet still in touch with our Neanderthal, animalistic, macho side."

Well, except for the "sensitive and evolved" part I would say nothing wrong with that.

Quote: "It's O.K. to go to a strip club and have a couple of beers with your buddies"

Exactly, and once in a while I bang the living daylights out of a hooker. So what?

Bert
-------------------- From now on, men's rights first.
Ya Think? (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 11:12 AM December 11th, 2005 EST (#5)
One must be careful here. The underlying theme by the media is to lionize the men who help keep the population in line, the black hand, the angels, and all other types of institutionalized bottom control. It is sad that so many can only see them as manly, it shows where the menatlity of the media is at, and who they serve, ya think? Also it condones selfish self serving actions by these men with the excuse that they have no other choice. One must be careful here....
Re:Ya Think? (Score:1)
by Hunchback on 11:51 AM December 11th, 2005 EST (#6)
One must be careful here. The underlying theme by the media is to lionize the men who help keep the population in line, the black hand, the angels, and all other types of institutionalized bottom control. It is sad that so many can only see them as manly, it shows where the menatlity of the media is at, and who they serve, ya think? Also it condones selfish self serving actions by these men with the excuse that they have no other choice. One must be careful here....

Exactly.
This was my thinking when Cops first aired: you desensitize people to violations by portraying dynamic anti-heroes being viciously effective. So when male suspects are paraded naked through the station on Cops, people internalize this as Standard Operating Procedure. When Judge Judy enshrines judicial misconduct on the bench, it's S.O.P. Likewise when a detective on a popular show commits police brutality—S.O.P. All they need next is a show on TV showing fathers getting reamed in family court, for instance, and people will not only accept it as standard (it is), but they will think of it as only natural.

Recently, a miscreant was apprehended and held by vigilant members of the public. Though he had a few bruises, no one could account for the cause of his death. Want to bet that one of the citizens was kneeling on his chest, a move he probably picked up from Cops.

Re:Ya Think? (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 08:56 AM December 13th, 2005 EST (#11)
Hunchback, I must take the time to proof read my opinions, sometimes my spelling is terrible! I do however have as a reason that I am busy, perhaps when I have more time I will let my anal side come through and make sure that the spelling is as adroit as my content! Thank you for the atta boy, one needs those on occasion! Take care..
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