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by Anonymous User on 03:41 PM November 22nd, 2005 EST (#1)
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Good article, that asks the extremely rare (in the media) question about fathers and fatherhood.
When the perp is a mother we are expected to feel sympathy. That is why the media reports that. They never report if a male perpetrator is a FATHER, because that might cause us to have sympathy for the male perp.
And BELEIVE me the media does NOT want that to happen...!
Remember; Women: Diagnosed., Men: Demonised.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by A.J. on 05:29 PM November 22nd, 2005 EST (#2)
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When the perp is a mother we are expected to feel sympathy.
And perps who are mothers are often given shorter or suspended sentences because (OK, everyone join in the chorus) “it’s in the interest of the children”.
I know where the constitution says that we are entitled to equal protection under the law but I’ve never found where it says that right is cancelled if the perp is a mother. I can’t believe that the framers of the constitution would support the use of children as shields to protect a perp from the consequences of his/her actions.
In my opinion it’s a really sick system that provides incentives for criminals to hide behind their kids when faced with consequences.
They never report if a male perpetrator is a FATHER, because that might cause us to have sympathy for the male perp.
That might be a mixed bag. Maybe I’m a cynic but I think it might be perceived as just more evidence that fathers are irresponsible. As you say demonize men and diagnose women. Don’t underestimate how blatant the public’s double standards can be.
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by Anonymous User on 05:44 PM November 22nd, 2005 EST (#4)
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On a similar note, I had (probably still do somewhere) an article about a large group of pregnant women in (I believe) a South American country that went on a crime spree (mostly looting) because they knew the law specifically excluded them from being prosecuted or going to jail for those specific crimes that they did.
Marc A.
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Exactly TC. The women are portrayed in the original article as the victims even though they are murderers and are humanized by references about their motherhood. Personal data about the man who died is largely ignored. It goes back to Chomsky's ideas about worthy victims. The media adores the women even when they are perps and gives humanizing information about them which creates a sense in the reader of their worthiness. Men otoh get very little personal information about them and remain more anonymous and therefore are projected as less "worthy."
SYG
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by Anonymous User on 05:34 PM November 22nd, 2005 EST (#3)
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by Boy Genteel on 10:55 PM November 22nd, 2005 EST (#5)
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...as soon as possible. Thanks!
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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by Thundercloud on 10:37 AM November 24th, 2005 EST (#8)
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Yay!~ I'm a registered user, now! \(^0^)/
Hopefully, we've seen the last of "Mikeeusa" or what ever his/her stupid name is, and all the other trolls as well. :-)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Thundercloud on 12:00 PM November 24th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Thanks.
Actually, I was a registered user about 2 or 3 years ago. But My computer crashed, and when I was back on line, finally, I had forgotten my password.
Frankly it was just laziness on my part not re-registering, again.
But I think this IS the way to go, banning anonymous posters. Hopefully we've seen the last of "Mikeeusa" (or what ever their name is) and other anony-trolls.
Actually, it DOES feel good to be a registered user, again.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Alitax on 04:52 PM November 23rd, 2005 EST (#6)
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Strangely enough, I remember reading news articles which describe men by their familial relations--father, son, husband, widow, etc. It seems to be a fact that reporters use as much to describe the subject as to ellicit emotional response for them; i.e. a man is a man, but a father is different than a man in that he is both a man and a man with a child, which a man alone may not be defined as.
Now, sometimes they forgo such description because it isn't readily available, nobody cared enough to look into it, or the police report hasn't been submitted. One cannot presume deliberate omissions in reported news, as opposed to opinion pieces, articles, etc., though I'm sure they occur. The principle of charity's hard to apply, but it's a good one to remember.
And I love the point at the end: "I can't go to jail! I have a baby!", as if having a baby exempts anyone from (humane) punishment.
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by Davidadelong on 12:40 AM November 25th, 2005 EST (#12)
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I have been told by CA attornies that it would be politically incorrect for me to try and join a wrongful death lawsuit for my son's death. Calaveras County is being sued, as well as other parties. The mother of my son filed the suit, and her attorney sent all the info to another address, even after I sent him my correct address after I spoke to him on the phone. Mr. Foley of San Andreas is the attornies name. I even sent a certified notified afidavid to the court seeking help in finding an attorney, but since I was told that Calaveras is a tough county for men, no one will take the case unless I pay up front, even with a valid contingency based case. One attorney told me that he feared for his job if he took the case. Mens' rights? We are all slaves feeding off of each other making the 4% even richer.
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