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by Anonymous User on 12:40 AM September 9th, 2005 EST (#1)
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"I would go back and ask the firefighter to revisit his commitment to FEMA, to firefighting and to the citizens of this country," said FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak.
Mary Hudak is a repulsive, anti-American, low-level Politburo bureaucrat. On the one hand she insists that the assignment would be community relations, so she acknowledges that the voulunteers would NOT be working as firefighters, and then criticizes the department chiefs for not communicating this:
The firefighters - or at least the fire chiefs who assigned them to come to Atlanta - knew what the assignment would be, Hudak said.
"The initial call to action very specifically says we're looking for two-person fire teams to do community relations," she said. "So if there is a breakdown [in communication], it was likely in their own departments."
OK, Ms Hudak: if they are NOT being asked to work as fire-fighters, and are instead being asked to "do community relations," and on top of that, the department chiefs need to be insulted (a brilliant community relations effort) for not communicating precisely the understanding that the firefighters would NOT be asked to work as firefighters, why oh why on Earth or in Hell is this utterly miserable, unapologetic pig of a bureaucrat (one of those unapologetic birdbrained feminist administrators--they're the worst of the lot) daring to call their commitment to firefighting into question? As if their time and expertise weren't valuable. It's wasted on FEMA, thanks to this purple flaming asshole. This woman is a disgrace, a walking public relations emergency, and a reason why FEMA has gone to hell with no return in sight.
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by Gang-banged on 10:00 PM September 10th, 2005 EST (#24)
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Meanwhile:
Countless bodies are not accorded any dignity, and left to rot . . out in the open !
The priorities at FEMA seem questionable ?
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by Anonymous User on 12:55 PM September 11th, 2005 EST (#27)
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Exactly. Not picking up bodies is uncivilized.
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by Anonymous User on 04:04 PM October 7th, 2005 EST (#36)
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"OK, Ms Hudak: if they are NOT being asked to work as fire-fighters, and are instead being asked to "do community relations," and on top of that, the department chiefs need to be insulted (a brilliant community relations effort) for not communicating precisely the understanding that the firefighters would NOT be asked to work as firefighters, why oh why on Earth or in Hell is this utterly miserable, unapologetic pig of a bureaucrat (one of those unapologetic birdbrained feminist administrators--they're the worst of the lot) daring to call their commitment to firefighting into question?"
This statement can be said for those fire fighters that have demeaned the work that FEMA Community Relations workers do everyday. It is insulting to be told that Community Relations staff are worth nothing, administrative work is beneath fire fighters and all they do is PR for the government. What an insult that if they are not fire fighters they are not fit to serve. I say go to hell all of you....you like it hot so burn.
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by firenice666 on 11:52 AM October 11th, 2005 EST (#37)
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First of all, get your facts straight before you open your mouths and show just how stupid and uninformed you really are. Mary Hudak had no part in anything that happened at the Mobiliaztion Center at the Sheraton in Atlanta. That opeation was run by headquarters personnel out of Washington, DC. If you have a bitch, take it up with the folks running that operations and stop picking on someone that only made an honest statement about the babies called Fire Fighters trying to bring attention to themselves for some type of sic need for glory. Mary Hudak's sense of committment will never be in question with those that know her.
Get over yourselves....911 is over and past...move on. Your 10 minutes of fame has past. Guess you think this is your way of regaining the spotlight. Believe me, their are many folks that know your secret...you are grown men and woman acting like children.
"If I can't pull animals out of trees I will stomp my feet and say how bad FEMA is. If I can't go back home and tell hair raising stories of how I saved 15 elderly people from the raging waters and make myself a hero in the eyes of my buddies and my town, I will make people think it was FEMA's fault. I can't go home if all I did was help people by registering their deseparate needs for housing with FEMA and didn't pull a car out of rising water single-handedly because FEMA sucks." Your testostrone levels are unbelievable....almost criminal. And for those of you who blame FEMA for your having to "drink beer at the Sheraton" you think intelligent people believe that crap?
Blame everyone but yourselves. Had you acted as if you really wanted to help the people of New Orleans, Mississippi, Alabama and Texas instead of making headlines as to the way the poor fire fighters were mistreated by big bad FEMA, maybe FEAM would have taken you at your word that fire fighters really want to help.....in anyway they could, not just the showboat ways we have come to realize is the only way Fire Fighters can "perform".
I have always heard those men who need to be prasied and coddled are really very sexually frustrated and need constant approval. Maybe that is why they are taking their frustrations out on Mary Hudak...a strong, well educated and powerful woman who says it like it is...calls a whiner a whiner. Actually her comments were mild considering what pains in the asses the fire fighters were. You caused FEMA to answer your whinings....that took up hours of everyday trying to baby you....Oh my gosh....could that be why people lost their lives? Sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it? Well that is the way you sound...making ridiculous statements about things you know nothing about. Grow up, little boys and girls. Join the real world.
Perhaps if your chiefs failed to explain to you what "Community Relations" staff does, maybe it is because they were really very smart and decided the only way to get you all to do something for someone else and get you out of their hair was NOT to tell you what the assignment was....hoping your altruism would kick in once you began working. Boy, did they misjudge all of you.
I have faith in FEMA and all the hard working people only interested in serving the needs of those devastated by disaster....not those who only care about the spotlight. God praise the people of FEMA and the Mary Hudak's of this world for standing their ground against whiners like all of you.
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by Anonymous User on 01:18 AM September 9th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Why send them to sexual harassment sensitivity training? Does FEMA think firefighters are necrophiliacs? There AREN'T any living humans in New Orleans to sexually harass.
Mary Hudak is an the perfect example of why people are beginning to believe that FEMA is DELIBERATELY SABOTAGING relief efforts. It's like something out of the X Files. Recruit firefighters, and make sure they don't get to use their expertise, then call their patriotism and commitment to public service into question when you waste their time. What country does Hudak work for? Iraq under Saddam Hussein? Because whatever country she does work for, it sure ain't the U. S. of A.
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by Anonymous User on 10:21 AM September 9th, 2005 EST (#3)
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In large disasters like this women with multiple small children often have to make a choice of which children will survive and which children will perish. My guess is this training class is to let these men know what type of situations they will find, and how to deal with the emotional aftermath of finding a house filled with dead children...
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by Anonymous User on 11:28 AM September 9th, 2005 EST (#4)
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That's probably false, and they're trained for this anyway.
And you haven't addressed Hudak's pigheaded, mean-spirited remarks.
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by Anonymous User on 01:38 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#9)
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In many cases the men are automatically rescued last because of their gender, and nobody questions it. At least 3 times now I've heard on the news how "women and children" were rescued first. Twice it was in relation to buses, and once they said it in relation to helicopters first picking up the "women and children" from the rooftops and leaving the husbands, promising to return, and in many cases not returning at all (probably because they saw more women to rescue).
Warren Farrell coined it perfectly:
"the disposable sex."
Marc A.
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by jenk on 03:25 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#11)
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Women with multiple children? Often have to choose who will die? Are you high? SO no men with multiple children? No families with multiple children? ONly women have to make that choice? Please, let me guess, the reason that only women haveto make that choice is because men are evil patriarchs? This is silly.
I would guess far, far more men with families sacrifice themselves so that their women and children will be rescued first.
I would also guess that being a fire fighter, they already are trained to find bodies, even those of children. Duh...they are firefighters. Not like every burning house is empty, you know. What next, that they have be trained to deal with fire being hot?
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by SacredNaCl
(tbessR3m0Ve2SendNEIN[SPAM]@R3m0ve.2.sendAt.mail.ru)
on 08:48 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#13)
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I don't know ...Plenty of other things make it look like FEMA was deliberately sabotaging things. And some possible motives would be: Get larger funding for next time, get more control, more power, maybe even the ability for one of their people to declare martial law so they can take your guns away and herd you into camps. Stuff like Rex-84 isn't a joke folks. I have a facility they built a mere 10 miles from me, with barbed wire that points inward to keep people in ( so you know its a prison), an electric gate, and watch towers like old style prison guard towers. Its built next to a water treatment facility well out of public site, and if you try to visit it, thugs in black chase you off.
Some things FEMA did to increase the appearence of malicious behavior, umm, like actually sabotage things...
1)Cutting the communications lines for the parish heads & police depts. The presidents of the parish heads had to post armed guards at the terminals for the communications lines to keep FEMA from redisconnecting them.
2) Setting up road blocks and check points so they can keep aid from coming in, and keep people from getting out.
3) Turning away: 3 trucks of water from walmart
4) Turning away 400 medical personnel, water, food, medical supplies. (Note, there are not the 1600 or whatever that Cuba offered. These were American doctors and nurses well schooled in triage.)
5) Turning away 500 boats after the parish heads had put out a call on the one remaining radio and TV station for people with flat bottom boats to assist in the rescue effort.
6) Turning away food, water, medical personnel ...28 more times from major charitable operations.
7) Turning down France's offer to have water purification units, the fuel for them, and the crews to operate them - which France said they could have in place and operational within 27 hours.(Early into it, day 2)
8) Refusing to allow civilians in to rescue and aid.
9) After finally allowing some busses in, they turned them back and send them BACK to the dome. They started doing this with some private vehicles as well.
10) A malicious gun grab, and not bringing water, food, and other supplies to those who were entrenched to stay to protect their property from looters. This includes the current policy of: You can stay, but you give up your guns, you can leave with us, but you have to give up your guns. If you attempt to leave on your own, and you have your guns you will be SHOT ON SIGHT, if you make it to the checkpoint, the checkpoint will take your guns. What the hell is this? A Gun Control Inc. Fantasy?
11) Setting up camps with the "Krakow" model. (See the first hand account of the facility in Oklahoma) Not that they aren't putting victims of this in abandoned prisons all over the country, they are doing that too.
12) Not distributing clothing, food, and other aid that was brought in by the truckload and is clogging up entire warehouses ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
13) Not allowing the Red Cross ...or anyone else... into any areas with hot food trucks and water. Including much of areas far north of New Orleans. Relented partially, they are in Mississippi. But despite this, and mostly because the Red Cross is really a DoD entity and not a real charity ...most of the food is coming from the Salvation Army & other sources.
14) Having such a draconian policy about returning to peoples property that residents with anything worth losing are afraid to leave. Some folks in Florida have been kept from their property now for more than 6 months.
15) Hiring known felons, rapist, and other sex offenders to be home inspectors and other FEMA workers.
16) "SHOOT TO KILL", Hi, we aren't here to help, we aren't here to rescue you, we aren't here to check on you, we are here to "SHOOT TO KILL".
17) Stealing the fuel the New Orleans police were using to operate so that they had to cease operations for a couple hours, and this let looting in some areas get out of control.
18) Many say they blew the 17th street levee, and its quite possible they did given ever other stupid thing I've seen from very good sources - I wouldn't put it past them.
19) Hiring out for an evacuation plan that included putting people in a death trap. Included only 2 lanes of 4 available for evacuation traffic as well, and no plans for busses to get people out.
20) Refusal to acknowledge people in the dome. Nor that they didn't have water, food, or basic medical supplies.
21) Refusal to let reporters into the area (so we couldn't tell the incompetence).
22)Refusal to allow footage of the dead bodies (though Oprah of all people broke that, and good for her for doing something right for a chance). We still don't have pictures of the bodies stacked to the ceiling in the 28 refridgerated tractor trailer trucks that will be shipped to a prison morgue so as to avoid the possibility of publicity.
Folks, FEMA isn't here to help. Their model isn't relief. Their model is building camps, taking away peoples guns, and herding them into camps. They are not your friends. They are not good guys. If this is who we are depending on for aid in an emergency, its a recipie for disaster as illustrated by the above and a few hundered more I could add to the list.
And I am going to further add, the Red Cross is a government entity, it is answerable only the DoD. It has a well earned reputation of not distributing money or aid to victims. It was that way in 93 in the floods, after the Oklahoma City Bombing, after 911 & with the Liberty fund, the LA & SF earthquakes, and numerous other hurricanes. What do they do with the rest of the money? Who knows, they usually only distribute at most 20% including administrative cost for that. Give your money to someone else if you want to help. Many of the people working for it are sincere and want to help, but like other institutions the levers of power are in the control of not very good people. 8 of which are appointed directly by the president.
http://www.charitywatch.org/articles/redcrossmarch .html
Freedom Is Merely Privilege Extended Unless Enjoyed By One & All.
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by Anonymous User on 08:57 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#15)
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I'm in complete agreement with every one of your points--in fact, I had the first few of them in mind when I wrote this. Did you know that FEMA was jamming radio communications (I have to check if you mention this) also?
This is like the FEMA of the X Files.
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by SacredNaCl
(tbessR3m0Ve2SendNEIN[SPAM]@R3m0ve.2.sendAt.mail.ru)
on 09:14 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#16)
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Thankfully they weren't smart enough to use the rotating freq radios and scrambling equipment for all of their operations (its unreliable over distance, but its in place now..). We heard quite a bit of their operations on the scanner. They used the term "Cockroaches" for the locals, and we heard them call in "Can we let this water in?" and the reply would be "NO, send it to the facility over there" 70 miles away.
Yes, they jammed the communitications of a lot of hard lines out, and radio. They even cut the lines for the NO police and parish heads - though the locals restored them.
I wonder why these folks haven't heard of water filters. Water purificaiton units exist,they work, could have alleviated a lot of suffering to get a couple on site.
Freedom Is Merely Privilege Extended Unless Enjoyed By One & All.
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by Anonymous User on 09:44 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#17)
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I've heard about a Navy ship jamming a common superhetrodyne radio intermediate frequency
[455 KHz] from a Naval ship south-sout-west of new orleans. Did you hear about that when you were scanning?
Do you know why FEMA was engaged in this bizarre activity? It sounds more like a military occupation than a rescue effort. There were reports by hams (I'm a ham) of interference, but others had only good things to say about the communications nets.
One thing I heard is that the same hams who were invited to help in 9/11 weren't invited during this disaster. So they were left scratching their heads...
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by Anonymous User on 01:05 PM September 11th, 2005 EST (#28)
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What was in context in which FEMA agents were calling locals "cockroaches"? There are people who want to find excuses for FEMA, and who believe that communications can be criticized randomly.
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by SacredNaCl
(tbessR3m0Ve2SendNEIN[SPAM]@R3m0ve.2.sendAt.mail.ru)
on 11:40 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#18)
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I left out a couple important ones...
23) The staged photo-op food delivery for PR for Bush.
24) The staged levee repair in New Orleans. They brought in the equipment to do it for a photo-op, but as soon as that was done, all of the stuff was gone and they didn't do @*&$ about it. The locals had to fix it.
25) FEMA wouldn't give authorization for more than 500 police officers who were sent to help from other areas.
26) Not calling for public assistance for guards for busses (as if manpower was really a problem. They seemed to be able to man those checkpoints just fine! But if the need was truly there, a single call to the working radio station would have produced hundreds of volunteers armed and able to support themself during the operation.
27) Turning away busses people brought in to get people out.
28) Trying to pass the buck and blame local officials. They followed the FEMA plan. New Orleans evacuation and emergency management was federalized more than 2 years ago. Its the same reason that states don't do major highway projects on their own -- the money has been sent to Washington for it and they have to beg for it back.
29)(and a little later...) Abandoning 400 victims in Longview Texas. They took them there by bus to the hospital to get checked out, told them a long term facility would take then when they got done with the hospital. When they returned, the busses ditched them and told them "The facility is full, sorry, you are left to fend for yourself!" (Most of them are now in Jacksonville, but ...!)
30) The BS story that the road in and out was impassable. Plenty made that jouney, and one person hotwired a bus and got a load of people out down the same road *(he detoured around the checkpoint, lucky for him he took the road he did). He then got on the highway and it was plenty passable. Reports from the bus drivers that were turned away at the last checkpoint report the same thing, the roads were wet in places, but perfectly passable.
...and I could on and on...
Freedom Is Merely Privilege Extended Unless Enjoyed By One & All.
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by Anonymous User on 12:22 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Gee, while their at it making sure men don't sexually harass women, why don't they give training to Blacks on how not to eat water melon on the job or training the American Indian rescuers not to scalp the people they're rescuing.
God, give me a BREAK!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 02:50 PM October 7th, 2005 EST (#35)
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Unfortunately, the fire fighters would appear to need training of all types just to become civilized! Unless they can run around with their shirts off beating their chest like cave men they aren't happy.
I would certainly be afraid to have my daughter around any of these uncouth barbarians.
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by Anonymous User on 12:41 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#6)
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Mary Hudak is the FEMA public relations hack who recruited firefighters to hand out flyers and do "community relations" and then called their commitment to firefighting when they were disgusted after she wasted their time by making them sit in sexual harassment classes, when they could have been saving lives in Lousiana.
Let her know what you think of her mean-spirited remarks. Perhaps she should go back and revisit her commitment to FEMA, to community relations and to the citizens of the country. Her email, from the DHS site is:
mary.hudak@dhs.gov
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by Anonymous User on 01:09 PM October 7th, 2005 EST (#33)
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First of all, get your facts straight before you open your mouths and show just how stupid and uninformed you really are. Mary Hudak had no part in anything that happened at the Mobiliaztion Center at the Sheraton in Atlanta. That opeation was run by headquarters personnel out of Washington, DC. If you have a bitch, take it up with the folks running that operations and stop picking on someone that only made an honest statement about the babies called Fire Fighters trying to bring attention to themselves for some type of sic need for glory. Mary Hudak's sense of committment will never be in question with those that know her.
Get over yourselves....911 is over and past...move on. Your 10 minutes of fame has past. Guess you think this is your way of regaining the spotlight. Believe me, their are many folks that know your secret...you are grown men and woman acting like children.
"If I can't pull animals out of trees I will stomp my feet and say how bad FEMA is. If I can't go back home and tell hair raising stories of how I saved 15 elderly people from the raging waters and make myself a hero in the eyes of my buddies and my town, I will make people think it was FEMA's fault. I can't go home if all I did was help people by registering their deseparate needs for housing with FEMA and didn't pull a car out of rising water single-handedly because FEMA sucks.
Blame everyone but yourselves. Had you acted as if you really wanted to help the people of New Orleans, Mississippi, Alabama instead of making headlines as to the way the poor fire fighters were mistreated by big bad FEMA, maybe FEAM would have taken you at your word that fire fighters really did want to help.....in anyway they could not just the showboat ways we have realized to be the only way Fire Fighters can "perform".
I have always heard those men who need to be prasied and coddled are really very sexually frustrated and need constant approval. Maybe that is why they are taking there frustrations out on Mary Hudak...a strong, well educated and powerful woman who says it like it is...calls a whiner a whiner.
I have faith in FEMA and all the hard working people only interested in serving the needs of those devasted by disaster....not those who only care about the spotlight. God praise the people of FEMA and Mary Hudak for standing her ground against whiners like all of you.
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by Anonymous User on 04:06 PM October 19th, 2005 EST (#38)
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For your information, several of your "saintly" fire fights went to New Orleans and were immmediately involved in discrimination issues. Maybe they should have sat through several classes. It was obviously a waste of tax payers dollars to try to civilize these barbarians.
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by Anonymous User on 12:53 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#7)
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"...On Monday, some firefighters stuck in the staging area at the Sheraton peeled off their FEMA-issued shirts and stuffed them in backpacks, saying they refuse to represent the federal agency.....
....Many will be assigned to hand out fliers.....
....would go back and ask the firefighter to revisit his commitment to FEMA, to firefighting and to the citizens of this country," said FEMA spokeswoman Mary Hudak. ....."
Just when we thought it couldn't get worse. First, we have an incompetent feminized government that cannot respond to a disaster in New Orleans.
Next, we get a Marxist-Feminist who is "Mary Hudak" that hates males. Why? Hadak hates the rescuers because MEN are the only ones who are the qualified individuals to perform rescue operations. She is literally working to make the disaster into a murderous scenario so that MEN will be blamed for not responding.
So what is does Hudak doing to save lives? She preaches male hate rather than addressing the issue of the disaster and allowing MEN to save lives.
Think it cannot get worse?
Just wait.
It's going to get allot worse.
Without question it is feminized women that have made the Katrina disaster worse by multiples of magnitudes.
Christ. They cannot even pass out first aid kits when they have a plentiful supply without a feminized disaster....
Make no mistake. This disaster has been made many times worse because of feminism.
Think about it. Somebody is dying and the feminists want the MAN to be feminized (brainwashed) prior to saving the life of a woman and children.
People are literally being killed by feminism in Katrina.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 01:28 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#8)
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MRA's have been predicting for a long time now that it will take a "calamity" to expose the tyranny of feminism.
I propose to you all that the well-named Katrina has provided just that.
Look closely at the "men" who propose to be leading and who show up on television now.
They all have one thing in common. They all look really scared. Of losing their jobs, of being held accountable for the first time in their lives...
George, Brownie, Dick... even Condie (ooops, well, lesbians should be counted among the masculine in this pack...)
Where, oh where, are all the Women's Studies graduates when it comes to scooping up dead bodies out of a toxic swamp?
Recall Vietnam's "agent orange" scenario, when after heroic service thousands of Vets (99.9% men) came down with "mysterious" diseases?
What do you think the health (physical and mental)repercussions will be forthe thousands of state, local, and federal rescurers?
A soon-to-be-announced "NOLA syndrome", maybe?
Another, "can't quite prove it" health insurance claim debacle?
Do we still have a government? Really? Where is it?
What, if it exists, does it do?
Oh, I think I know.
It gets up every day and believes that good people will not revolt, not now, not ever.
We'll just make our donations to camouflage the latest incompetence by the powerful-in-charge.
Free?
For who?
To do what?
To how many?
(roy)
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by Anonymous User on 03:17 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#10)
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roy notes, "...Do we still have a government? Really? Where is it?
What, if it exists, does it do?
Oh, I think I know.
It gets up every day and believes that good people will not revolt, not now, not ever....We'll just make our donations to camouflage the latest incompetence by the powerful-in-charge....."
Exactly. I just got over $1,000 taken from my paycheck taken by the government for Katrina, and these ass holes want me to donate more?
NOT! They have enough.
Now if we were to get rid of the feminist government and the feminized police state that they impose and I'll consider private donations.
There is no way that am I going to further help the very people that are so corrupt. Hell. Their own feminized male-hating government failed them on a massive scale, but they look at me and seeing that I'm and evil white male they want more.
I've already paid up the ass through the government.
Notice how they left males behind and took the women with their children first. Men were left to die so that evil donation-stealing women can live.
Let them get the money from the government that they so love, which they have successfully demanded take money from me to give to them a $2k cash card.
Where the hell was the cash during the San Francisco earthquake? Not available. There were too many evil white males.
Nobody gave me a damn $2K cash card when I needed it because of an economic disaster where my job left the country.
To hell with them!
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 05:57 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#12)
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You sir,
Are the future.
I'm not yet sure whether that's a good thing.
But I'd trust my life to you more than any anonymous feminist or political fellow-traveller.
But I'm supposed to think of myself as "old" now, (what's that, post 35?) despite the fact that I can still break down and reassemble an
M-16 or AK-47 blindfolded.
Some day my skills will be valuable again.
I prefer the AK, especially in a flood.
It jams far less frequently under duress.
(roy)
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by Anonymous User on 04:51 PM September 12th, 2005 EST (#31)
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If I thought I could get away without doing jail time I'd have an AK put away.
The time will come that we'll need it.
For now I have other measures for protection that are quite effective.
Hope I never have to put them into affect.
Warble
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by firenice666 on 02:41 PM October 7th, 2005 EST (#34)
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First of all, get your facts straight before you open your mouths and show just how stupid and uninformed you really are. Mary Hudak had no part in anything that happened at the Mobiliaztion Center at the Sheraton in Atlanta. That opeation was run by headquarters personnel out of Washington, DC. If you have a bitch, take it up with the folks running that operations and stop picking on someone that only made an honest statement about the babies called Fire Fighters trying to bring attention to themselves for some type of sic need for glory. Mary Hudak's sense of committment will never be in question with those that know her.
Get over yourselves....911 is over and past...move on. Your 10 minutes of fame has past. Guess you think this is your way of regaining the spotlight. Believe me, their are many folks that know your secret...you are grown men and woman acting like children.
"If I can't pull animals out of trees I will stomp my feet and say how bad FEMA is. If I can't go back home and tell hair raising stories of how I saved 15 elderly people from the raging waters and make myself a hero in the eyes of my buddies and my town, I will make people think it was FEMA's fault. I can't go home if all I did was help people by registering their deseparate needs for housing with FEMA and didn't pull a car out of rising water single-handedly because FEMA sucks." Your testostrone levels are unbelievable....almost criminal. And for those of you who blame FEMA for your having to "drink beer at the Sheraton" you think intelligent people believe that crap?
Blame everyone but yourselves. Had you acted as if you really wanted to help the people of New Orleans, Mississippi, Alabama and Texas instead of making headlines as to the way the poor fire fighters were mistreated by big bad FEMA, maybe FEAM would have taken you at your word that fire fighters really want to help.....in anyway they could, not just the showboat ways we have come to realize is the only way Fire Fighters can "perform".
I have always heard those men who need to be prasied and coddled are really very sexually frustrated and need constant approval. Maybe that is why they are taking their frustrations out on Mary Hudak...a strong, well educated and powerful woman who says it like it is...calls a whiner a whiner. Actually her comments were mild considering what pains in the asses the fire fighters were. You caused FEMA to answer your whinings....that took up hours of everyday trying to baby you....Oh my gosh....could that be why people lost their lives? Sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it? Well that is the way you sound...making ridiculous statements about things you know nothing about. Grow up, little boys and girls. Join the real world.
Perhaps if your chiefs failed to explain to you what "Community Relations" staff does, maybe it is because they were really very smart and decided the only way to get you all to do something for someone else and get you out of their hair was NOT to tell you what the assignment was....hoping your altruism would kick in once you began working. Boy, did they misjudge all of you.
I have faith in FEMA and all the hard working people only interested in serving the needs of those devastated by disaster....not those who only care about the spotlight. God praise the people of FEMA and the Mary Hudak's of this world for standing their ground against whiners like all of you.
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by johnnyp on 08:54 PM September 9th, 2005 EST (#14)
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"We're sitting in here having a sexual-harassment class while there are still [victims] in Louisiana who haven't been contacted yet."
This shows two things:
1) Political correctness and feminist propaganda outweigh rescue from natural disaster
2) Feminist propaganda has convinced "the system" that all men, including regular decent men, are always on the verge of rapping and pillaging.
It will not be long until feminists succeed in having all men closely supervised and only allowed out for work-release.
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by Anonymous User on 02:05 PM September 10th, 2005 EST (#22)
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And there were complaints that it took so long for the rescuers to get there because of racism.
I think it had more to do with sexism.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 05:04 PM September 12th, 2005 EST (#32)
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We are now getting reports from local family members that FEMA came to California last week to get firemen to hand out flyers.
FEMA and their city (forget which one) wanted each fireman to take 40 hours without pay and hand out those damn flyers and get sexual harassment training.
When they learned that they would be sent to sexual harassment training and handing out flyers on their own dime they all categorically refused.
The men were all told that they were mean-spirited and undeserving of their jobs.
Notice that the press fails to report these horrific facts.
I'm thankful that these men are standing up to the feminist agenda of hate and saying no.
Imagine it. The news media is failing to report that the reason that FEMA is a disaster is that the women in charge are requiring men to get harassment training on their own dime instead of saving lives.
Each and every one would have gone to help people, but not to be feminized and brainwashed.
Looks like at least SOME men are starting to get their BALLS BACK.
Warble
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by Baniadam on 08:03 AM September 10th, 2005 EST (#19)
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You think it is only the femanazi that are leading this? In your dreams; the elites don't give a shit: their only regret is that Katrina left survivors. Like the way they don’t give a rats-arse for the cannon fodder in Iraq or the Iraqi Civilians. They have their own agenda and own wealth to look after. Imagine the number of contracts that the government is giving and will continue give to these over enlarged soulless corporations. Some men will be laughing all the way to the bank. And guess who pays the bill; the public; those poor saps. I am glad I’m not an American… my only regret is I’m British (Shit!). We may not have it as bad as you guys but we are following your trail. Just you wait: soon we shall be on equal footing of disparity. (Is that statement negating?)
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by Anonymous User on 09:55 AM September 10th, 2005 EST (#21)
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I think this is correct. Getting one's feathers ruffled because of sexual harassment training, and blaming this on the feminists, as if it were a feminist plot to kill innocents, is so far over the top that I would recommend involuntary commitment to the nearest psychiatric hospital for anyone who believed this. It looks like a military takeover.
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by Anonymous User on 10:55 PM September 10th, 2005 EST (#25)
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the elites don't give a shit: their only regret is that Katrina left survivors
The whole thrust of this effort is to rebuild N.O. in the image the powerbrokers prefer: a cash cow without the pesky encumbrance of the poor—who by now have had the decency to die off. Can the church say "Diabolical!"
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I bet the next thing they will do is bring in some dog trainers to put those rapist fire fighter bastards in their place.
At least one will be very happy to do the job.
Bert
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From now on, men's rights first.
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by Anonymous User on 04:18 PM September 10th, 2005 EST (#23)
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Bert,
You ought to give TBQ another listen.
(Shit! I thought I had staked out the anti-vagina high ground.... but you are out there bro!)
If only for your own future amusement.
She has been the closest "thing" I've seen yet resembling an honest woman posting.
She is a dog-trainer. That's both bad and good.
And she sees how foolish this is as a way to combat feminism or relate to men unless you are seeking mere obedience, and the end to your female privilege.
I believe BTQ deserves to hang herself, or escape her fate, maybe even redeem the topic, solely on the foundation of her own words.
Same street-cred I'd ask of any so-called MRA.
(roy)
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by crescentluna
(evil_maiden @ yahoo.com)
on 11:33 AM September 11th, 2005 EST (#26)
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Seriously. They need search and rescuers, there are still people in need of search and rescue - if not in NO then DEFINITELY in other areas affected by Katrina.
One would hope trained firefighters have already HAD sexual harassment on the job training - which I do believe is important, not because I think firefighters are out to sexually harass anyone, but because I don't doubt there are firefighters who've been arrested or sued for sexual harassment who have done NOTHING wrong. "He totally undressed me! So what if my polyester clothing was on fire? Sexual harassment!"
However, if it was a stupid "sexual harassment: no means no, from a superior or team member . . ." type of seminar, no wonder they tore off their FEMA attire.
And no, they shouldn't be handing out pamphlets. There are PLENTY of random government underlings who I'm sure can be spared to hand out pamphlets, and probably as the officer said, have a better idea about insurance and such. Com'on, FEMA is a bureacracy, plenty of underlings with no purpose. Nor should they be standing around to make Bush look good. They should be doing the work they're trained to do.
The sad part? If they hadn't responded to the "communication teams" request, FEMA would say "No outside firefighters want to help with rescue efforts! It's not OUR fault the local firefighters are exhausted, nobody wants to help."
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by Anonymous User on 01:57 PM September 11th, 2005 EST (#29)
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I wonder if they were taught not to sexually harass the dead women as well? (sarcasm)
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by Anonymous User on 02:14 PM September 11th, 2005 EST (#30)
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>"I wonder if they were taught not to sexually harass the dead women as well?"
Ewww, That's just sick...!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Evil White Male Oppressor writes ""They've got people here who are search-and-rescue certified, paramedics, haz-mat certified," said a Texas firefighter. "We're sitting in here having a sexual-harassment class while there are still [victims] in Louisiana who haven't been contacted yet." Nuff said..." Link