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Japan's female workers: "wasted asset"
posted by Matt on 06:50 PM August 24th, 2005
The Media Kyo writes "Time Magazine has a story on female workers as a "wasted asset" in Japan.

The usual fallacious logic finds its way into print yet again:

Activist Hiroko Hara says, "We have to figure out whether to keep fighting for our dream of equality or just give up on having it all."

Once again the "stark career-or-kids choice" is given as an injustice o women, conveniently forgetting that those overworked "salarymen" have no choice at all -- for them, it's work until you collapse."

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old media stuff (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:39 PM August 24th, 2005 EST (#1)
"she was chided for daring to voice her opinions on news content—and for cropping her uniform skirt from mid-calf to a scandalous length just below the knee. "The company was looking for cute, non-ambitious girls," says Tanimoto."

Sounds to me like Tanimoto was ambitious. As to whether she was cute, I would have to see the legs she showed.

"a survey by the Japanese Broadcasting Corporation found that women spend a daily average of 3 hours and 49 minutes on household duties. Men? They spent just 32 minutes a day on the chores."

Yup, more evidence that men are more efficient than women. As a single guy living by myself, on average I spend less than 15 minutes a day on chores. I would guess a lot of married men are forced to do chores in accordance with women's standards of how the house should be run. It's about time for men to insist on the equal validity of their own standards for doing chores. And it's about time for the media to get a clue and stop stereoyping men as lazy bums.


Re:old media stuff (Score:2)
by Raymond Cuttill on 06:20 AM August 28th, 2005 EST (#17)
Were the male newscasters allowed to give their opinion or was it more likely no-one was and she just decided to ignore the rules and attempt to beef up her role. As for dress code, just ask any office man, especially in public postion (newscasters, sales, customer service) whether he's allowed to ditch the tie when he likes. Survey of housework? Did they check home repair, maintenace, car maintenance etc.? However the forecast of the population halving is the most serious bit here. Unless women work out a solution, other than saying there's got to be childcare so we can abandon the children when we please, then Japan is in trouble whether women work or not.
Re:old media stuff (Score:2)
by Raymond Cuttill on 06:47 AM August 28th, 2005 EST (#18)
Forgot to add. Forecast of world population from the UN says 9 billion by 2300 but industrialied countries DO NOT grow (Japan, US, Europe etc.) so 3 billion more whilst the west goes into decline
What was she employed to do ? (Score:1)
by Gang-banged on 08:17 PM August 24th, 2005 EST (#2)
(User #1714 Info)
"Tanimoto joined in 1997 as an in-house newscaster, she was chided for daring to voice her opinions on news content—and for cropping her uniform skirt from mid-calf to a scandalous length just below the knee."

Such a shame . . my father was a coal miner and no-one listened if he commented on the coal. Dress was pretty much uniform, yet no one discarded any of it !

Largely, if you are paid to do a job, the job is all you are paid to do.
What a Coincidence! (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 10:28 PM August 24th, 2005 EST (#3)

>At Peach John's Tokyo headquarters, all but one of the 42 employees are women.

First they complain that companies don't hire enough women, then they highlight a woman-owned business who has only one man out of 42 employees. I wonder how many men are working for all the other woman-owned businesses.

>The company structure is unorthodox: to avoid the pressures of a hierarchy, Noguchi has divided her staff not by job type but by flower names. The head of public relations, for instance, is in the peach-blossom category, while Noguchi is in the chrysanthemum division.

Ha! ha! ha! ha! Look at what all those male-dominated companies are missing out on!

I wonder how much longer the men in Japan will be able to hold on to their domination of the workforce before the feminazis whine them to death. Considering how I see what women here in the U.S. have done once they got in control, I don't have one ounce of pity for the women in Japan. In fact, if the men of Japan see what is happening here, I imagine they will hold on for dear life if they know what's good for them.

Dittohd


Re:What a Coincidence! (Score:1)
by starzabuv on 02:45 AM August 25th, 2005 EST (#4)
They wont hang on, because chivalry is as big in Japan as it was here 40 years ago, maybe more. At some point all nations will be on the same page with 'feminism', and all I can say is 'Goddess' help any openly declared feminist. They will be the hunted, rather than the hunters. My bet,...it will be grisly.
Disclaimer: Everything I post is of course my own opinion. If it seems harsh, Feminazis just piss me off!
Well, so much for Japan... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:05 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#5)
Japan was one of the places I was thinking of moving to. But it looks like feminism is taking hold there, as well.
Oh, well. I didn't like the idea of eating sushi or running from Godzilla, anyway.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:Well, so much for Japan... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:31 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#6)
"running from Godzilla."

You crack me up, TC. LOL.

  Jinx
Re:Well, so much for Japan... CloudZilla! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 03:38 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#7)
I'm pretty sure that if Thundercloud showed up in central Tokyo, the panic attack would make a Godzilla movie look like Sesame Street! ;-)

I've only read the usual cliches about Japan -- that the men are company-droid-workaholics who commute long hours by train every day from tiny 800 sq.-ft. endless surburban sprawl apartments, and often don't even make it home during the week because getting ahead at work also requires long hours of drinking in the evenings.

The Japanese women apparently rule the domestic castle, fly-spec though it may be, and it's customary for the wife to control all finances, and all decisions regarding children.

(Gee, that leaves the Japanese man as what? A virtual slave? The proper term is "salaryman.")

But in the past few years, as women have become career-oriented, the country's fertility rate has dropped to the point that Japan is not replacing its population as the aged die off.

There's also a kind of Marriage Strike, led by young women not men, and the girlies say they get off more from shopping than from sex.

No wonder the guys are drinking heavily and paying for easily available commercial whores.

Funny that Japan started out as a nation of samurais with a masculine code of honor and conduct.

I guess you can expect your culture to go into the crapper when you overestimate your prowess and lose a global war.

That would never happen to the good ol' USA!

(Roy)


Re:Well, so much for Japan... CloudZilla! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:03 PM August 26th, 2005 EST (#11)
>"I'm pretty sure that if Thundercloud showed up in central Tokyo the panic attack would make a Godzilla movie look like Sesame street!"

Jeez, Roy. I'm not THAT ugly! :-)

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:Well, so much for Japan... CloudZilla! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:19 PM August 26th, 2005 EST (#13)
No, but you are a formidable figure!

The Japanese would have no easy category for an outspoken MRA, American Indian, who writes with great eloquence.

Actually, in Japan, you could probably have a national tee-vee show within a week of your arrival.

"Johnny Thundercloud's MRA Make-Over ...."

"In today's show, Johnny Thundercloud invites N.O.W.s feminist president Kim Gandy to enter a Cherokee/Lakota sweat lodge to experience a true Vision Quest in a three-day journey guaranteed to bust through her delusions and gender confusion! You won't believe the new and attractive Kim who emerges glowing and radiant from this sweaty tribal tribulation!"

Well, that was a bit over the line.

But the Godzilla metaphor started the ball rolling....

(No offense intended to any/all Japanese MRAs.)

- Roy

 
Re:We have to start killing women (Score:1)
by Uberganger on 07:21 AM August 26th, 2005 EST (#9)
Oh dear, another suspiciously over-the-top post by an Anonymous User. Must be another little femipest trying to manufacture evidence for the evil men's movement. I suppose it's only to be expected; they've manufactured evidence for everything else.
Re:We have to start killing women (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:06 AM August 26th, 2005 EST (#10)
What an obvious attemp by a woman to discredit this board and the truth in which it speaks. This only goes to show in such a blatant way the underlying ruse of feminism in general.
Re:We have to start killing women (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:14 PM August 26th, 2005 EST (#12)
You mean we should start killing women the way the feminists want to kill men?
No thanks. I'd rather be HUMAN?
I think we can get the job done without killing ANYONE. We ARE a CIVILIZATION, after all. The key word is "CIVIL", in case you missed it.

I think you are just an anonymous troll trying to stir things up. Or you're some femaroid, fishing to see if any of us "evil oppressor males" will agree with your post.
Sorry, no one here thinks that we should harm women or advocates harming women, let alone kill them.
Try the KKK websites, or the feminist websites.
They are all for oppressing, harming and even killing others in the name of their agendas.
But you've come to the wrong place if that's the sort of thing that gets you off.
Okay? Buye-bye.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!
Re:We have to start killing women (Score:2)
by Clancy (long_ponytail@yahoo.com) on 03:21 PM August 26th, 2005 EST (#14)
There is something much more eeeeviiilll and nefarious going on here beside a simple post from a "seemingly" juvenile feminist. If enough people reply to this post without changing the subject line, easily influenced people (like me) would read the same title "have to start killing women" over and over and over. Next thing you know, my eyes glass over, my arms extend outward a-la Frankenstein (a MALE monster) and start whacking every women I see. Next come the headlines and my photo appears in "The smoking gun". Men are rounded up like cattle only to be sent to "re-education" camps and to think - it all started from a itsy bitsy DUMBASS post. Oh no! I'm feeling drowsy .......
need to see a MRA psychiatrist, quick (Score:2)
by Clancy (long_ponytail@yahoo.com) on 06:05 PM August 26th, 2005 EST (#15)
And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the MRA in charge came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group YX's where they put you after committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly 'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and do community service." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" And I said, "disagreeing with my wife." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And domestic violence." And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench. And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of things......

with thanks and apologies to Arlo Guthrie
Re:need to see a MRA psychiatrist, quick (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:28 PM August 27th, 2005 EST (#16)
Excellent historical pop media reference!

And linking DV "crimes" to the crime of resisting going to war for false reasons is only too relevant today.

BTW, Arlo is playing now on the Farm Aid tour.

Gonna introduce my 17 and 22 year-old daughters to a legacy voice that started with Pete Seger.

They're more into Robert Plant, (electric) Bob Dylan, and Neal Young....

I think they'll make the stretch.
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