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by Luek on 06:50 PM April 21st, 2005 EST (#1)
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False reports of rape are far less of a social problem than the failure and fear of many rape victims to report the crime, said Beth Morrison, chief executive officer of HAVEN, a sexual-assault counseling center in Oakland County
The excerpt from the article shows the mindset that the femibot forces have to protect and reinforce each time one of these false rape accusation crimes is committed.
The time has come to make it a separate crime to falsely report a rape or sexual assault. There should also be a comprehensive review of all men who have been convicted of rape and tougher legal standards should be imposed in determining guilt. Just having HER word as basis for a conviction should be put back in the dark ages from where it came.
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by Anonymous User on 08:21 PM April 21st, 2005 EST (#2)
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We really need to get the phone number of those Marxist-Feminist bitches at the police department and the counseling center. I cannot believe their boldface lies.
Then we need to flood them with polite but distastefull phone calls calling into question their false claims that there is "integrity" in the system.
Get me a phone number and I'll call.
Finally, we need to make certain that the bitch is prosecuted and that her name is released to the public.
This business of protecting the name of false accusers is in itself a criminal act against all males.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 09:03 PM April 21st, 2005 EST (#3)
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Call their supervisor. Call their funders. But don't waste your time calling them! Male haters aren't going to change. But it's high time to do away with tolerance for male-hating.
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by Anonymous User on 10:10 PM April 21st, 2005 EST (#4)
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Are these false allegations actually a form of female rape of males? See
http://www.heretical.com/berne/rapo.html
Scroll down to "3rd degree rapo".
Certainly the social and psychological effects on male victims are devastating. Do females derive sexual pleasure from destroying a man by false allegations?
Hotspur
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by LSBeene on 04:44 PM April 22nd, 2005 EST (#5)
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Mr. Laitner,
Hello, my name is L. Steven Beene II and I live in Nome, Alaska. I called you earlier and you were on deadline and told me to drop you an E-mail.
Here is a link to your article:
http://www.freep.com/news/locoak/hoax21e_20050421. htm
I wanted to comment on a few things in your article and to offer some helpful information. Now, first off, everyone is a "critic" and has an opinion, and I hope you take mine in the helpful way I mean it, as information and some suggestions.
I should also give full disclosure that I am a father's/men's rights advocate. I want to be honest and upfront with you so, and hope you will know that I am an "upfront" person who is plain in how he does things and that any political or sociological ideas I have are on the table.
I was perplexed as to why you did not publish the woman's name. She is no longer covered by the "rape shield" laws, and has admitted that she lied. Her name should be "out there" so that other men can be warned of this dangerous person.
Also, I am very much hoping that you will do some follow up on this story. Often we in the father's/men's movement see the hype and hysteria when a woman makes a rape claim (which is good in that a potential/alleged rapist's info is out there) but often we see this kind of story and then .... silence.
I know that you must maintain good relations with police and D.A.'s in order to get information, but many many times I read a story, such as this one, and the last word on this is "the D.A. is considering filing charges". The police do not "consider filing charges" when a man is named as a rapist. No, they arrest him. He has committed a crime and for the sake of safety to the public the man is arrested.
This unnamed woman is just as dangerous. She doesn't do the violence herself, but rather uses the violence by proxy of the state. As an analogy, if a crime lord orders a man to be kidnapped and his money stolen, we consider him at least as culpable as the person he sent to do this.
In this case no man was arrested (though one was detained), but often a false allegation is done out of revenge, during divorce, for an excuse, to cover adultery, or simply because the person is unhinged. Men in society are in danger from women such as this.
I noticed you quoted a sexual-assault counselor. It would have been highly advisable and appropriate to have quoted a men's rights activist as this was a crime that hugely affects men.
Her quote was:
"False reports of rape are far less of a social problem than the failure and fear of many rape victims to report the crime, said Beth Morrison, chief executive officer of HAVEN, a sexual-assault counseling center in Oakland County.
"Victims of sexual assault generally don't want attention. They want privacy," Morrison said."
Her quote is wholly misleading as she out-of-hand dismisses that false rape allegations are "less of a social problem". Since men are the accused in this crime I think that men who are falsely accused are very interested in this. Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers did some work on the prevalence of rape. (link below)
http://www.leaderu.com/real/ri9502/sommers.html
And the below link is an excellent site for info on false rape allegations
http://www.menweb.org/throop/falsereport/adult.htm l
The long term social, legal, personal, and emotional damage done by a false allegation is tremendous. It shatters lives. And not only the accused, but all who know him (or her) and care for him (or her).
I Hope you read some of the things I left for you and if you would like more information please feel free to contact me.
Respectfully,
L. Steven Beene II
Guerrilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 05:26 PM April 22nd, 2005 EST (#6)
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I am impressed. Another DOER, not a talker (such as I).
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cmdr iceman writes "Here we are again gentlemen with yet