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Injustice Call over Rape Case
posted by Hombre on 10:21 PM April 6th, 2005
False Accusations Campaigners are calling for the release of a 33-year-old Aviemore man who is facing rape charges in France. Stephen Jakobi, director of the UK's Fair Trials Abroad, is quoted as saying "It is bewildering when you've got clear DNA evidence that no rape took place, or anything like it, that the guy is still in prison awaiting trial, three months after the scientific proof came back."

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What were the details of the complaint against him (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:24 PM April 6th, 2005 EST (#1)
"DNA results show no sexual intercourse took place between Mr Orr and his alleged victim."

Other than being arrested for rape this story gives zero details leading up to Mr. Orr's arrest. Did somebody just a throw a dart at a dartboard full of pictures and pick him?

"...the guy is still in prison awaiting trial, three months after the scientific proof came back."

If DNA evidence cleared Mr. Orr is that because they found someone elses DNA in the false accuser, or did they find no one's DNA in the false accuser? What is happening to the false accuser? Is she in jail? Has she been arrested? What is her account of her "alleged" rape?

"What is going on here? This case produces a lot of questions about standards."

"It strikes me that there's been a howling injustice in the way this thing's been handled."

"The Foreign Office confirmed Mr Orr had been arrested and was currently in custody on charges of rape."


This case does produce a lot of questions which deserve answers. Is the French Gov't intentionally restricting free access of the press to information, or are the journalists covering this story just not up to asking the relevant questions?

Ray

Prosecute False Accusers

Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item. All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
France. (Score:1)
by LibertyUNH on 11:17 AM April 7th, 2005 EST (#2)
Yes, they have the most unfair system of false asccusations of sex crimes in Europe. I have studied it enough to know.

        On p 208 of European Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics, we can find number of offenders in prison for rape per 100,000 of all population in 2002.

        France has 11.5, highest in West Europe. (I know USA has ~25)
Re:France. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:06 PM April 7th, 2005 EST (#3)
"France has 11.5, highest in West Europe. (I know USA has ~25)"

So who has the highest rate of incarceration for rape in the world? Is there any country higher than USA's 25?

I know that generally the USA has the highest rate of incarceration in the world having now passed Russia.

Ray
Re:France. (Score:1)
by LibertyUNH on 01:58 PM April 7th, 2005 EST (#5)
No. The de-facto rate in USA is 50 for rape and 95 for all sex crimes. That is due to the fact that not all incarcerated are in prisons but some are under outpatient monitoring MUCH WORSE then prison. NZ comes second with the rate of ~60 for sex crime.

          Russia's high incarceration rate is not due to a legal system nearly as harsh as USA's but due to high crime rate caused by economic change.
Re:France. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 09:24 PM April 7th, 2005 EST (#7)
"The de-facto rate in USA is 50 for rape and 95 for all sex crimes. That is due to the fact that not all incarcerated are in prisons but some are under outpatient monitoring MUCH WORSE then prison. NZ comes second with the rate of ~60 for sex crime."

LibertyUNH:

That is useful information. Do you have a source for that? We may be picketing a feminist rape rally, and we'd like to have all our fact checking ducks in a row.

Sincerely, Ray
Re:France. (Score:1)
by LibertyUNH on 11:05 PM April 7th, 2005 EST (#8)
On false accusations,

http://www.newswithviews.com/Sacks/glenn12.htm

http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume9/j9_3_ 6.htm
What happened to THEA? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:26 PM April 7th, 2005 EST (#4)
Anyone know what happened to Thea?
She doesn't post anymore...,
While western men sexuality is penalized......... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:59 PM April 7th, 2005 EST (#6)
Japan's virgin wives turn to sex volunteers

Lustless matches put country on brink of demographic disaster

Justin McCurry in Tokyo
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian

Like many Japanese women, Junko waited until her early 30s to get married. When she and her fiance, an employee of a well-known firm, decided to tie the knot, she set her sights on making a home, putting away some money and starting a family.

Fifteen years later, Junko and her husband are childless. It is not that they cannot have children; it is just that they have never had sex.

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The sexless marriage is one of several reasons why experts fear Japan is on the verge of a demographic disaster.

In 2003 Japan's birthrate hit a record low of 1.29 - the average number of times a woman gives birth during her lifetime - one of the lowest rates in the world, according to the cabinet office. The population will peak next year at about 128 million, then decline to just over 100 million by 2050.

The 200 women a year who seek help at a clinic in the Tokyo suburbs have not had sex with their husbands in up to 20 years, and some never, according to Kim Myong-gan, who runs the clinic.

"The women who come to see me love their husbands and aren't looking for a divorce," he told the Guardian. "The problem is that their husbands lose interest in sex or don't want sex from the start. Many men think of their wives as substitute mothers, not as women with emotional and sexual needs."

Mr Kim's short-term solution is unconventional. After an initial 20,000 yen (£100) counselling session, he produces photographs of 45 men, mostly professionals in their 40s, with whom the women are invited to go on dates and then, in almost all cases, arrange regular assignations in hotel rooms.

Mr Kim dismissed charges that his service was little more than a male prostitution ring. "The men volunteer and pay half the hotel and restaurant bills, so legally there is absolutely nothing wrong with it," he said.

He had rescued hundreds of women from despair, he said, but his "sex volunteers" would do nothing to cure the malaise that afflicts the institution of marriage in Japan.

The number of married couples is in rapid decline. In 2000 almost 70% of men and 54% of women between 25 and 29 were unmarried. That bodes ill for the birthrate, as conservative Japanese society frowns upon having children outside marriage.

A survey of 600 women found that 26% had not had sex with their husbands in the past year.

"We are sort of room-mates rather than a married couple," one 31-year-old man, who had not had sex with his wife for two years, told the Asahi Shimbun newspaper.

The government has introduced several measures to lift the birthrate. Fathers will be encouraged to take more than the 47% of annual paid leave they currently use, and their employers will be told to provide more opportunities for them to stay at home with their children.

Local authorities, meanwhile, are devising novel ways to increase fertility. In the town of Yamatsuri women will receive 1m yen if they have a third child, and in Ishikawa prefecture families with three children will get discounts at shops and restaurants.

The absence of children in so many homes is having an impact. Fun parks are closing and there are signs that the "exam hell" teenagers go through to secure places at top schools and universities is less of an ordeal because the competition is less fierce.

The divorce rate has nearly doubled in the past 10 years, with more women blaming their sexually inactive, as opposed to sexually errant, husbands for break-ups.

"The men love their companies; they live for work," Mr Kim said. "Men don't even think it is a problem if they don't have sex with their wives. They have pornography and the sex industry to take care of their needs, but their wives have nowhere to go. They just suffer in silence."

The entire Western civilization is bound to end-up in the ditch. Of that I am certain.

It is only a question of time. I could bet my life on it.

The main reason for this endless gender war is …. the children. And there seems to be no limit to the hatred and the misandry.

Therefore, by suppressing the source of the pain, the pain should disappear. Shouldn`t it?

Let us stop complaining about the injustices : it`s a dead-end, and simply eradicate the source of this injustice. And if there are still women wanting children, well, there are sperm banks on every street corner. Let THEM pay for everything and let THEM do all the work of raising children. Who cares if our society collapses?

Do you?

I don`t! (In fact, I hope it will).

Who knows: maybe it`s time for the West to say good bye? Let the Muslims in: they will be the next civilzation. We have done our share. In my opinion, the white race has to disappear: it`s the only way to save humanity, or what`s left of it.

This is certainly happening already -western men going on a marriage strike and refusing to breed - and it might well become more prevalent.

And, of course, societies that embrace feminism and political correctness are doomed to extinction, because they are certainly going to be outstripped, outclassed, outgunned and outnumbered by cultures and societies that embrace the very opposite.

Meanwhile those smart politicians are thinking on making men paying higher children tax, - child support -, combined taxes arround 79-80% for fathers and death penalty for not paying those, will give a turbo boost to the birthrate.

Those naughty christians, that see male sexuality as bad and dirty, and so they pass sex laws targeting men, promoting the negative perception of male sexuality, with additional laws implemented against it. This laws combined with children tax, will accelerate the whole thing.

ISLAM IS THE FUTURE!! No doubt.


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