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False Accusations Can Be Costly... to Accusers, too
posted by Matt on 12:53 AM January 25th, 2005
False Accusations Luek writes "A male basketball couch was awarded almost $5 million on a false molestation charge. He may get even more if punitive damages are awarded later this month!

This guy did not rollover and just tried to forget it or get mad.

HE GOT EVEN!"

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Huh? (Score:1)
by Kyo on 05:15 AM January 25th, 2005 EST (#1)
It looks like the girl who maliciously accused him isn't being punished! The later paragraphs indicate that she and her mother were dropped aws defendants, whereas the police (who were only doing their job in investigating what the claimant asked them to investigate) are taking all the blame.

Once again, false accusers get away -- and this time, rather than there being no punishment, they get someone else to be punished in their stead!
Re:Huh? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:00 AM January 25th, 2005 EST (#2)
I'm glad he nailed the cops for that, but disappointed he let the fucking liar and her lying mother get away unscathed.
Re:Huh? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:52 AM January 25th, 2005 EST (#4)
I notice that the girl and her mother were dropped as defendants as part of a settlement deal. Maybe they didn't get away unpunished.
The Police And DA Usually Are The Problem (Score:2)
by Luek on 10:57 AM January 25th, 2005 EST (#5)
whereas the police (who were only doing their job in investigating what the claimant asked them to investigate) are taking all the blame.

I am glad the police got the blame even though the little skank slut got away.

Whenever a case comes up involving sex the glorious people's police do their job with extra enthusiasm especially when the alledged perpetrator is a man. The DA and the police get big public recognition in sex cases.They will egg on a plaintiff to remember things that did not happen or even out and out lie about the incident to make a case. Have you noticed lately the number of falsely accused men getting out of prison through DNA analysis? Many of these men were falsely accused of rape by the state.

Too bad the DA and police will not be serving any prison time in these and the above false accusation case in California.
Re:The Police And DA Usually Are The Problem (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:56 PM January 25th, 2005 EST (#7)
Didn't this mother and stupid daughter perger themselves?
Isn't that a crime?

'guess not when your female..., (sarcasm)

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Re:The Police And DA Usually Are The Problem (Score:1)
by scudsucker on 03:05 PM January 26th, 2005 EST (#13)
Sort of like when the cops and DA went after Micheal Jackson...they called a press conference to make an announcment that they were going to have another press conference to announce their decision to prosecute Jackson...in prime time. The ONE AND ONLY reason to do it this way was to get as many people watching as possible...somebody here was planning on running for office at some point.


"...show young men an ideal of manhood that respects women and rejects violence" George W. Bush - Republican 2005

On small step forward (Score:1)
by Thomas Jefferson on 07:14 AM January 25th, 2005 EST (#3)
True, the false accuser evaded responsibility for her evil doing, but the Police will now be more inclinded to objectively evaluate claims of rape. The female supremacists have, over the past decades, waged an elaborate propagnda campaign within police dept. and sheriff's offices accross the country to convince them to withhold all objectivity and reasonible skeptism. The results of their malevolence has come to the point were the mere say-so of any women is taken as the unquestioned truth. Not too long ago, a homeless man was falsely accussed by a 14 yr old girl of attempted rape. He spent severval months in jail before the truth was revealed. The girl made up a fairy tale as an excuse for being late for school. Some research indicates that as many as 40% of all rape accusations are false. Common reasons for false accustions are often petty with revenge, regret and fear of pregnancy being most prominant. The female supremacists routinely labor to squelch any research into the "cry rape" issue as it doesn't fit with their agenda of victimology.

This article, itself, was an abberation in that it mentioned the false accuser by name. The media usually runs cover for the female supremacists by excluding critical information or simply not reporting the cases that contradict their agenda. Perhaps, this is the a sign that the media is not as willing to be the agents and docile lapdogs of the female supremacists any longer.


We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. -- Thomas Jefferson

I think this may make things a little clearer (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:46 PM January 25th, 2005 EST (#6)
In the following report
http://www.sgvtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,205%257E1 2220%257E2665602,00.html
it says:
  His accuser, Taylor Bouchard, now a 21-year-old college student, testified during the trial, which began Dec. 13 before Superior Court Judge Robert O'Brien. The jury began deliberating Jan. 7.

Bouchard told police that Gillan sexually assaulted her between June 2000 and April 2001. She graduated from San Marino High in 2001.

Bouchard wasn't among the suit's defendants because of a California Supreme Court ruling that no one can be sued for falsely reporting a crime. That prompted Gillan to release the Bouchards from his claim. "That's the only reason that I dropped her,' the coach said.

The Bouchards, in turn, released Gillan from a sexual battery suit. However, Taylor Bouchard last year reached a confidential settlement with the San Marino Unified School District.

Who said the law wasn't an ass?

Neale


Re:On small step forward (Score:1)
by ArtflDgr on 01:13 PM January 26th, 2005 EST (#12)
One thing to be fair to point out is that we do NOT know if she was lying. that is an assumption.

just because there isnt enough evidence to convict or go to court does not mean the incident never happened. this is not a defense this is just the truth. from the information provided we dont know what, if anything, happened.

some of the outcropping from this is the recent move towards civil court when criminal court doesnt work. civil has a lower burden of proof, as well as no 'innocent till proven guilty" protections. if there isnt enough information to convict someone, there will not be enough information to set someone free in civil.

what we dont want here is people afraid to come forward in a catch 22 when there is a situation. which is what would happen if every action was treated as black or white, and the assumptions made as here, that if they cant prove it, then they are lying.

the real issue here is not her and her mothers culpability... the issue here is whether having a news conference abridges a persons right to due process as well as creates a defamatory situation.

even though i did not see the news conference i will bet that the officers were not careful in the phraseology used. which then in light of a case that cant go forward can amount to a public declaration of guilt before the determination of law.

it would be for this reason that the officers would be open to the lawsuit. their job is not to asses true guilt or innocence in light of a complaint. their job is to go through the motions of collecting persons and evidence so that a court can determine within the framework of law whether something we all agree upon as a society has happend that would incure the agreed punishments as defined. its very easy for them to step over this line and call a suspect a perpetrator, refer to a complainent as a victim, etc... THAT'S what they are being taken to task for, and nothing else.

most likely any punitive damages and other damages will be reduced by judiciary decision in appeal later... it is seldom that such high awards stay the way they are.

In order for the daughter to be taken to task there would have to be proof that they lied!! thats why there is no counter criminal prosecution.... there is no pergury because the allegation was not testimony in court when sworn in... and an allegation unfounded is not the same as proof of a false allegation!!!!!!!!!!!


Couch...? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:59 PM January 25th, 2005 EST (#8)
This guy is a COUCH?
You mean he's stuffed and apolstered and people sit on him?

Well, it says he's a "couch" in the origional post.
Re:Couch...? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:03 PM January 25th, 2005 EST (#9)
"COACH". a "COACH". Not a "couch".
It's just a type-O, you door knob!

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Re:Couch...? (Score:2)
by Luek on 06:13 PM January 25th, 2005 EST (#10)
Well, he is now a very rich couch or is that coach?


Re:Couch...? (Score:1)
by Kyo on 01:00 AM January 26th, 2005 EST (#11)
Bouchard wasn't among the suit's defendants because of a California Supreme Court ruling that no one can be sued for falsely reporting a crime. That prompted Gillan to release the Bouchards from his claim. "That's the only reason that I dropped her,' the coach said.

Thanks very much for the clarification, Neale.

When I see laws like this one, I think that on the one hand they're good because people can report crimes withour fear of retribution if they're mistaken, but when someone takes advantage of this by reporting a fictional crime, alleging that she was the victim, this flouts the spirit of the law.
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