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by Anonymous User on 08:38 PM January 19th, 2005 EST (#1)
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"I think we need to pay attention to boys," this mother of two daughters says. "I think we've paid a lot of attention to girls for the last 30 years, and we have this idea in the United States that boys can take care of themselves." Boys, she points out, are children, too. They need nurturing and care, like all children.
Thank you, Laura Bush!!! Laura Bush for President, 2008!
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by Anonymous User on 03:28 AM January 20th, 2005 EST (#2)
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C'mon guys, let's not focus on the bad side all the time... this is Good, no GREAT NEWS! Let's hope it follows through... my faith in the Bush administration has been renewed at least somewhat now. Ms. Bush, you are ahead of your time, sadly. Thankyou.
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by Anonymous User on 10:03 AM January 20th, 2005 EST (#3)
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SKLU-DUNGGG!!! *Sound of my jaw dropping*
Is this for real?
If it is, COOL!
Okay, I know I tend to be 'Donny Downer' at times, but I wonder if this news will make the press. I kind of have my doubts because the media tends to, let's say, avoid news conserning the well-being of males.
Instead the media may try to say that Mrs. Bush has, instead of a pro-boys agenda, an anti-girls, no an anti-FEMALE agenda. They twist things like this all the time.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 12:38 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#4)
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"Like it or not, her second-term agenda includes new issues:
•Helping troubled young men. Although she's the mother of two girls, 23-year-old twins Barbara and Jenna, Bush believes that teenage boys need special attention and mentoring to keep them out of trouble and get them into college.
"I think we still have this stereotype that boys can take care of themselves and that boys don't cry and that boys don't need special nurturing," she says.
She plans to travel around the country to highlight programs for boys.
•Women's health. She'll continue to promote The Heart Truth, a campaign to call attention to coronary problems that often go unrecognized in women.
•Women's rights in Afghanistan. "I still want to stand with the women of Afghanistan. I hope I'll be able to go to Afghanistan sometime during this term," she says.
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I hope it is no accident, that the issue of the plight of males in education heads the list. I would only hope that MRA's try to "make hay" on this one.
I hope that this issue is not only the head issue in this USA Today news story, but also in the heart and mind of Mrs. Bush.
With over 700 women's studies programs on college campuses (thousands to tens of thousands of w.s's. classes), and over 270 women's commissions in the U.S., it is overwhelmingly clear that males are and have been under attack by a misandrist agenda in education as well as other areas of society. One need only pick up a text book in liberal arts in a college book store to see the misandrist bias that permeates every aspect of our educational system.
Talks cheap, especially in political circles. I'm from Missouri so, Honorable 1st Lady, show this retired educator the tangible steps to improve men's lot in education, and while your at it how about addressing men's health. Please start an Office of Men's health like the Office of Women's health that now exists. After all, males die many years sooner than females.
I'm sorry, Honorable 1st lady, even though I'm an incurable optimist, you've got a lot of work ahead of you before I change my mind about America's war against men that is currently destroying the lives of so many good, honest, decent citizens for no other reason than that they are male's in the cross hairs of a male-hating, gender feminist agenda in politics, education, law, society, health care, etc.
I sincerely applaud your effort to confront this Amazon issue that is so disproportionately discriminating against American males in every age group and racial demographic. I for one eagerly await the opportunity to role up my sleeves, and bring more equitable education to a system that has too long been controlled by the politics and ideologies of misandirst educators.
Sincerely, Ray
Boy's Cannot Achieve If Educators don't Allow It
Radical Feminism in Schools Fails Boys
Schools are Sexist and Hostile Against Males
PLease do not scroll up the page of the linked items. All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
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by Anonymous User on 12:52 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Gee... with responses like this, I'm sure you can expect a lot more positive reciprocation from those who support your issues.
"Rest assured, even if you attempt to do something nice for me, I'll shit on you if you try and don't succeed."
It's no wonder men's issues get so little attention!
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by Anonymous User on 01:18 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#9)
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""Rest assured, even if you attempt to do something nice for me, I'll... if you try and don't succeed. It's no wonder men's issues get so little attention!"
That's not the reason male issues get so little attention. The primary reason I see is the gender feminists agenda that vilifies men in all areas of our society. I was merely alerting the 1st Lady to that concrete reality, and the opposition she will face. I also pointed out some other areas where men face oppresion/persection at the hands of the gender feminists' agenda. She has a formidible task indeed if she is going to change anything.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:31 AM January 21st, 2005 EST (#22)
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No need to explain yourself.
Thanks, Dittohd
I think Mrs. Bush tries to be a nice person, but the gender feminist movement has typically chewed up and spit out nice people on a regular basis.
I wish her well, and hope she suceeds. She is certainly going into one of the gender feminist strongholds with a concept (caring/pro male educational objectives) that will encounter much opposition. The opposition will be overt, covert, and hostile, very hostile.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:54 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#6)
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"I'm sorry, Honorable 1st lady, even though I'm an incurable optimist, you've got a lot of work ahead of you before I change my mind about America's war against men that is currently destroying the lives of so many good, honest, decent citizens for no other reason than that they are male's in the cross hairs of a male-hating, gender feminist agenda in politics, education, law, society, health care, etc. "
Why do you have to be such an asshole? She's trying to do something good. Even if she tries and five years from now we find she doesn't succeed, she deserves due credit for her efforts.
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by Anonymous User on 01:27 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#10)
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"She's trying to do something good. Even if she tries and five years from now we find she doesn't succeed, she deserves due credit for her efforts."
Words without deeds are nothing. As a retired educator and a registered Republican, let me be the first to say, "Prove it isn't just lip service!" and "I'm from Missouri. Show Me!" With the war on men being waged my misandrists like Attorney General Cox in Michigan, this MRA has good cause to doubt the glowing words of any chivalrous Republican. Republicans need to prove that their actions measure up to the equal justice, equal protection, and equal rights, that our constitution gaurantees, just as the Democrats do. I guess that makes me a Men's Rights Activist first, and foremost.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 06:24 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#37)
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> I'm from Missouri. Show Me!" With the war on
> men being waged my misandrists like Attorney \
> General Cox in Michigan, this MRA has good
> cause to doubt the glowing words of any
> chivalrous Republican. Republicans need to
> prove that their actions measure up to the
> equal justice, equal protection, and equal
> rights, that our constitution gaurantees, just
> as the Democrats do.
Laura Bush is only one person. If she puts in an effort but she does not get enough support from her Republican colleagues, then the thing to do, is support Laura to the bloody end, and focus your bloody tirades on the Republicans who do not line up behind her. That's how you pressure additional Republicans to join her cause.
Threatening her like you are going to be an asshole if she tries her best but things don't work because of circumstances outside of her control - that accomplishes nothing.
P.S. I am no "-h"
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by Anonymous User on 10:28 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#39)
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"Threatening her like you are going to be an asshole if she tries her best but things don't work because of circumstances outside of her control - that accomplishes nothing.
P.S. I am no "-h"
No one is threatening Laura Bush, unless it's you, I've just said that actions count much louder than words, and let's face it there's been plenty of words from politicians (Democrats and Republicans) and pitiful little action.
Furthermore, never once did I use profanity so the next time you feel like calling someone a name just look in the mirror and say it. Your Freudian projection stated above is all yours.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 01:37 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#11)
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"she deserves due credit for her efforts."
What this?
"I sincerely applaud your effort to confront this Amazon issue that is so disproportionately discriminating against American males in every age group and racial demographic. I for one eagerly await the opportunity to role up my sleeves, and bring more equitable education to a system that has too long been controlled by the politics and ideologies of misandirst educators."
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:57 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#7)
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"I'm sorry, Honorable 1st lady, even though I'm an incurable optimist, you've got a lot of work ahead of you before I change my mind about America's war against men that is currently destroying the lives of so many good, honest, decent citizens for no other reason than that they are male's in the cross hairs of a male-hating, gender feminist agenda in politics, education, law, society, health care, etc."
Why do you have to be such an asshole? You are trivializing her efforts, and suggesting that if she tries her damndest and doesn't succeed, you're going to shit on her. If that's your attitude, why would she bother with any of this at all? My attitude; if no deed goes unpunished, then none shall be done. Good people should not get flack for trying to do good things.
She doesn't have to do this, you know..
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by Anonymous User on 01:11 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#8)
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"Why do you have to be such an asshole? You are trivializing her efforts, and suggesting that if she tries her damndest and doesn't succeed, you're going to shit on her. If that's your attitude, why would she bother with any of this at all? My attitude; if no deed goes unpunished, then none shall be done. Good people should not get flack for trying to do good things."
I live in deeply "blue" California. I'm just realistically pointing out what she is up against. Gender feminism is so deeply entrenched in our educational systems that she is going to face horrendous oposition to anything she tries to do. Unless she makes an enormous effort the gender feminists will continue to persecute males in all of our educational institutions.
I wish the 1st Lady well, but talks cheap. When she actually accomplishes something praiseworthy I'll praise it. In the mean time, Laura Bush needs to put her political money where her mouth is.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 09:01 AM January 21st, 2005 EST (#26)
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Ray.
I say you are right.
I, personaly, think that Mrs. Bush is in for a shock. I doubt she realizes the confrontation she will recieve if she embarks on this quest. "How DARE she stand up for male rights!!!" is the attitude she is faceing.
If history is any teacher (and it is) she is in for a "slap in the face" by feminists, Wussie-poopie mouse boys, like minded women and anyone else who supports the feminazi agenda.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Boy Genteel on 12:10 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#28)
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Then we need to get behind her rather than give faint warnings and then leave her twisting in the win when the opposition begins charging her way.
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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by Anonymous User on 03:18 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#31)
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Yeah, I agree.
Believe me I am FIRMLY behind her on this.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 03:05 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#12)
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If only some great law required those who are ever speaking critically about the work of others to assume a portion of that same work -- in order to make it better -- then the world would know a sweet new order of silence, and those who "do" in life would no longer have to bear the bitter sound of those who won't.
-- Guy Finley
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by Anonymous User on 04:26 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#15)
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If only some great law required those who are ever speaking critically about the work of others to assume a portion of that same work -- in order to make it better--...
Sounds good to me. I'm all for it. Hope to see you all at the next street protest, protesting the discrimination against males in our educational system, or any other area where males face discrimination. Hope to see you all working tangibly in any area that helps males to achieve equal protection, equal justice, equal rights.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 05:20 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#16)
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Ray, if you are as proactive as your reply insinuates then I have no right to belittle your accomplishments. Those who "do" should be afforded some leeway in their criticisms if you've "been there, done that". I think most of the comments directed at you are, in one way or another, asking you to at least acknowledge that someone, not just anyone, is indirectly speaking out against the people and injustice that all of us despise. It is true, words are hollow. Only deeds will end this story - one way or the other. I tip my hat to you in your struggle to preserve basic human rights for all men AND boys.
Clancy
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by Gregory on 06:23 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#19)
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I tip my hat to you too, Ray. Thanks for all your good effort.
I saw the recent Barbara Walters TV interview of President and Mrs Bush and was pleasantly surprised when Mrs Bush started talking about the importance of turning national attention to the educational problems of boys. I think this is a good sign, but I agree, it will be uphill sledding. I find myself wishing that she would take up men's health in addition to or even instead of male academic problems (if she's taking on only one male issue).
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by Anonymous User on 04:11 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#13)
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I sure hope she doesn't read your letter. She just might switch sides.
That letter was bullshit and uncalled for. Are you actively trying to reduce the credibility of MRA's?
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by Anonymous User on 04:18 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#14)
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"I sure hope she doesn't read your letter. She just might switch sides.
That letter was bullshit and uncalled for. Are you actively trying to reduce the credibility of MRA's?"
I respect your right to express your foul mouthed opinion, ignorant that it is. The letter is perfectly in order. If anyone is reducing the credibility of MRA's, it foul mouthed bigots like you.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 06:20 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#18)
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Ray,
what in my post led you to the conclusion that I am a bigot? Foul mouthed, yes; bigot, no.
Hey why don't you send Laura another letter calling her a bigot, too. I'm sure that will help the MRA cause even more than your first letter.
I don't understand what good could possibly come about by your letter. If anything, she'll think that we (MRA's) are ungrateful for her. Why would you want her to think that?
-h
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by Anonymous User on 12:23 AM January 21st, 2005 EST (#21)
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"what in my post led you to the conclusion that I am a bigot?" "Hey why don't you send Laura another letter calling her a bigot, too."
Simple, your foul mouthed, ad hominem attack on my person as much as my opinion, and your further ad hominem attack in the above post. I responed to your statements previously so go back and read them if you want to see specifically how I replied.
I don't think Laura Bush is a bigot. Nice try, trying to put words in my mouth.
I think Mrs. Bush tends to be a gracious person, but may be in for some rather nasty responses from the gender feminists in the educational system. I have said as much so what's your problem with that? I'll believe she's going to be effective helping boys when she gets results.
"No child left behind" has not been that great of a sucess, but then educators were less than enthusiastic, just becuase it came from the Bush Presidency. There may well be a similar reaction by educators to Mrs. Bush's proposed pro-boy message.
I stick by my original post and believe it to be appropriate to the issue. I respect other's rights to dissenting opinions, but I do not respect vulgar, foul mouthed, personal attacks.
A lot of glowing things are usually said around the inaugeration time of any Presidency, but I know California gender feminist will be working hard to keep the Bush White House from having any successes. The current administration should be fully aware of the strongly entrenched, anti-male gender feminist agenda in education, when undertaking a program to help the educational plight of boys. You may not like the message, but that message needs to be sent to Mrs. Bush loudly and clearly. Mrs. Bush should be given as much detail as possible about how the gender feminists are undermining boys education, and how they would work to under mine any proposed programs to help boys.
Again, Femi-supremacist, gender feminist ideology, taught through women's studies programs on college campuses, has spread an anti-male/anti-traditional family propaganda like a plague through American society. How are we going to help boys in their educational settings, if we permit the evil misandry that comes from that group to continue its vilification of all things male?
Mrs. Bush is going up agianst a major segment of the "women's industries." I suspect the war in Iraq will look like a cake walk, compared to the resistance Mrs. Bush will encounter, presenting her "pro boy agenda" to all those gender feminists who've become entrenched in our educational system.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 01:03 AM January 21st, 2005 EST (#23)
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Not once did I refer to you personally. If I did, please quote it for me. I called your letter something, but not you. Likewise, where did I engage in an ad hominem? Please quote. Do you know what an ad hominem is? Do you know what a bigot is? You, on the other hand, did engage in personal name calling. You called me a bigot.
-h
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by Anonymous User on 01:06 AM January 21st, 2005 EST (#24)
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On second thought, Ray, let's just drop it. We both have a common cause, so I'll focus my energies on that instead. Good luck with your activism.
-h
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by Anonymous User on 02:59 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#30)
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"Not once did I refer to you personally. If I did, please quote it for me. I called your letter something, but not you. Likewise, where did I engage in an ad hominem? Please quote. Do you know what an ad hominem is? Do you know what a bigot is? You, on the other hand, did engage in personal name calling. You called me a bigot.
-h"
Some people might say that what "-h" has been doing on this thread is nothing short of trolling. Some might say "-h" seems to have a lot of selective trouble with his/her memory also. I’m going to try to expose some of the disingenuous posting that has been going on in this thread in as much detail as possible.
I was responding to anonymous post #7, "Why do you have to be such an asshole?" , although I didn’t quote it in my reply and anonymous post #13 “The letter was bullshit and uncalled for. Are you actively trying to reduce the credibility of MRA’s?” in my post #14, here, “I respect your right to express your foul mouthed opinion, ignorant that it is. The letter is perfectly in order. If anyone is trying to reduce the credibility of MRA’s it’s foul mouthed bigots like you.”
Then you owned up to being an anonymous poster in your post #18 when you said, “what in my post led you to the conclusion that I am a bigot? Foul mouthed, yes; bigot, no.” ...and you actually signed it "-h." How could you claim that someone, anyone called you a bigot when “-h” only first appeared on that post, post #18? What “foul mouthed” statements were you owning up to that you neglected to sign “-h” to?
Therefore, I address the specifics of your post #18 , “what in my post led you to the conclusion that I am a bigot? Foul mouthed, yes; bigot, no.”
and Post #23 "Not once did I refer to you personally. If I did, please quote it for me. I called your letter something, but not you."
Here are someone’s previous “foul mouthed” anonymous posts to me.
Post #7 "Why do you have to be such an asshole?"
Here’s another, anonymous post #5 "Rest assured, even if you attempt to do something nice for me, I'll shit on you if you try and don't succeed."
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In your post #23 you ask, "Do you know what a bigot is?"
Yes, Webster says
"bigot - One fanatically devoted to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and intolerant of those who differ."
I would add beliefs to that list, and some would add opinions.
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In your post #23 you ask, "Do you know what an ad hominem is?"
Yes, Webster says, "appealing to personal prejudices, or emotions (my emphasis) rather than to reason.
Your vituperative use of profanity that you admit to in post #18 appears to qualify in the context it was used in. “The letter was bullshit...”
You further state, "You, on the other hand, did engage in personal name calling. You called me a bigot."
Except that I made those comments to anonymous poster(s) before you ever signed "-h" to any posts in this thread.
We have determined that I was addressing those comments to anonymous poster(s), but again, it now appears you are “owning up” to some “foul mouthed” anonymous posts, and you now feel offended. I guess the truth hurts.
In your selective memory, you deceptively faded from anonymous to “-h,” structuring your posts to suit your deception. You appear to forget that it was anonymous who initiated the “foul mouthed” name calling that I addressed, and you personally attacked my posts using “foul mouthed language” by your own admission, and the facts at hand. How convenient of you to forget. In the future I will certainly suspect the credibility of anyone signing “-h” to any posts on this web site.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 03:42 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#33)
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Ray, those are not my posts. The only post I posted anonymously was the #13. I did not post #7. I only "owned" up to post #13. You are assuming that other anonymous postings were posted by me. They were not. I never called you an a$$hole. I never even saw that posting.
This is ridiculous, and I will not be posting further. You are taking other people's posts and criticizing me for the content therein. You're whole premise of the above post falls apart, because I NEVER WROTE POST #7. NOR DID I POST #5.
I don't know who did, and I don't care. I won't call you a fool, Ray, but your tendency to assume that all anonymous posts were made by one person might lead one to believe such a thing.
I forgot to sign my first post "-h". This board does not allow one to go back and fix mistakes like that. On my second post, I did sign it.
This is a misunderstanding perpetuated by both of us. I never called you anything, Ray. Some other anonymous poster did. But go on believing that there is only one anonymous poster on this board if you wish.
I'm done here.
-h
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I think it would help matters h if you would get a screen name. It was a bit confusing to know who posted what anon post. I know I got them mixed up. Getting a screen name would alleviate that sort of confusion.
Do we have True Equality?
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by Anonymous User on 10:20 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#38)
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"You are assuming that other anonymous postings were posted by me."
I never assumed they were yours, but am suspicious that they are, since it took tracking down the thread to show statements you made, but didn't sign.
Sincerely, Ray
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Great letter Ray. Acknowledges the uphill battle we are experiencing and the way the deck is stacked against us while also commending her for her efforts.
Excellent.
Do we have True Equality?
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by Anonymous User on 05:34 PM January 20th, 2005 EST (#17)
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Laura Bush is the 1st Lady, and Lynn Chenny "the 2nd Lady," if I can apply that title to the wife of the V.P. Anyway, it is safe to assume they have met and talked. Lynn Chenny was one of the founding members of this organization: Independent Women's Forum
Isn't that an interesting article about the comments by the President of Harvard?
Sincerely, Ray
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by MacKenna on 09:25 AM January 21st, 2005 EST (#27)
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It's nice to see that IWF was supporting the comments he made - before he wussed out.
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 02:14 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#29)
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Not only will Laura Bush have a uphill fight against radical feminism, but men's activists will have to fight BS coming from our own ranks. Well, I'm not sure I would condsider Hugo Schwyzer a man. This guy has to be the president of the "What A Load Foundation". He, obviously, has never been through a divorce or child custody hearings.
According to Gender Studies professor Dr. Hugo Schwyzer, Ph.D., a member of the National Organization for Men Against Sexism, the emerging men's rights movement is a reactionary expression of deep-seated societal misogyny and homophobia.
According to Dr. Schwyzer, talk show host/columnist Glenn Sacks is part of the problem--a "purveyor of a victim mentality for men" who "masks men's own responsibility" for their problems and who "lashes out at those, such as feminists, who call men to accountability for their actions." Schwyzer also labels Sacks a "denier of male privilege," adding "just because a group doesn't feel privileged doesn't mean that they aren't."
Schwyzer, an accredited speaker for Men Can Stop Rape who teaches Gay and Lesbian history and Western Civ. at Pasadena City College, laments that "one of the problems with being a man involved with the pro-feminist men's movement is that we often get mixed up with the men's rights activists who are virulently anti-feminist."
Schwyzer will attack Glenn and the men's movement on His Side with Glenn Sacks on Sunday, January 23 at 5 PM PST/8 PM EST.
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by Anonymous User on 03:36 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#32)
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Shitwyzer, or what ever his stupid name is, really needs to get his FACTS STRAIGHT!
There are probably SOME so called "men's rights" activists that truely ARE misogynists but to my expirience they are rare. Of course when any fem-tool wants to point out how the entire men's movement is "anti-female" they point to only those "misogynist" groups and then apply them to the whole of the men's movement. despite the fact that it is the MAJORITY of men in the men's movement that are the ones who are REALLY talking about equality of the genders. Not the kind of "equality" that gender feminists are always touting, that whole; "Women and men are eaqual but women are superior!" bull s#!t that we get beaten over the head with, all the time.
People like this Shitwyzer and other femdrones KNOW they are in trouble. We have to expect them to fight back very hard and, as usual, as dirty and un-fairly as possible. That is how they always have and always will try to accoplish things in their agenda. They are NOT going to go down easy. No Hell Beast ever does.
Like Ray has been trying to say, Mrs. Bush is in for one hell of a fight, if she's sirious about this pro-boy agenda. And like Boy Genteel and Clancy have been saying, we need to get behind Mrs. Bush and give her all the support we can.
She's gonna need it...!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:54 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#34)
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I hope that Glenn verbaly kicks Schwyzer's ass.
Since Glenn will be using facts that shouldn't be hard.
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by B_Riddick on 04:52 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#35)
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Yeah, I don't think this guy can even be described as being from "our ranks" at all. Yes, he is male, and an activist of some sort, but the resemblance ends there.
Note the language used here, such as the name of the organizations: "Men Against Sexism" or "Men Can Stop Rape."
Sounds positive on the surface, right? But wait...is the definition of "sexism" being used here an equal one, or the feminist one (which only considers something as sexist if it's male vs female, or at least vs female). My money's on the feminist definition being in use here, given what else this fellow comes up with.
And the "Men Can Stop Rape" bit clearly implies that since we're responsible for all rape (yeah right) we're clearly the ones to call upon to stop it. They pull the same BS on a local campus in my area...they put those "you can stop rape" messages on those plastic flaps in the urinals of some of the men's restrooms on campus. I asked a woman there if they have anything like that in the women's restrooms (how about: "you can stop emotional abuse and false accusations"), but she said no. I sometimes chuckle at the thought of them expecting us to take seriously a message that we're literally urinating on (it's in the urinal), but it is rather insulting to me as well, especially since the female students don't have to put up with any such guilt-trip tactics or insulting implications like that. I'm not a rapist, never have been, never will be, so stop asking me to stop what I've never started!
Anyway, sorry about the semi-digression, but this Schwyzer fellow sounds like just another fem-nazi in man's clothing to me, another self-hating man doing the dirty work for them.
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by Anonymous User on 10:34 PM January 21st, 2005 EST (#40)
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"They pull the same BS on a local campus in my area...they put those "you can stop rape" messages on those plastic flaps in the urinals of some of the men's restrooms on campus."
They should put an equal number in the commodes in the women's restroom.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 02:38 PM January 22nd, 2005 EST (#43)
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Sorry for the digression, but I would just like to take a brief moment to thank Ray for his tireless dedication to the real men's movement. Whenever I think of you and your truck, it brings a smile to my face even in the midst of the worst stinking feminist crap.
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by Anonymous User on 03:30 PM January 22nd, 2005 EST (#44)
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"I think of you and your truck, it brings a smile to my face..."
Thanks, I needed that. Spring comes early to L.A., and I'm hoping to get out more, real soon. If you don't see me as much on Mensactivism in coming weeks it'll be because I'm painting truck signs. I actually am going to be loading PATERNITY FRAUD IS DEADBEAT GOVERNMENT on the truck today. If I get real ambitious I might even do a short run to Hollywood (Freaky town) tonight.
There's a lot of work and time goes into making the signs, but it reaches a really wide audience, and once there made it's a really good feeling displaying them in the court of public opinion.
I definitely need to make some new "catchy" signs. The old ones have been well circulated. I'm going to keep the old ones, just add more new ones to the inventory.
I have one EQUAL JUSTICE FOR MEN that I want to make, employing the American flag, and the Statue of Liberty in the design. It should look very eye catching when finished, but it's going to be really labor intensive. I suspect that sign will get more mileage than FEMINIST LIES MAKE BAD LAWS (a real favorite up to now).
It will be good to have a decent selction of signs to alternate between "problem" and "solution" messages.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:29 PM January 22nd, 2005 EST (#41)
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I would enjoy pissing on that shit. I think it's hilarous. Of coure, I am against rape. I would just be pissing on the while notion and guilt and shame that I am responsible and to blame for rape because I have a dick.
p. george
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by Anonymous User on 02:35 PM January 22nd, 2005 EST (#42)
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Anyway, sorry about the semi-digression, but this Schwyzer fellow sounds like just another fem-nazi in man's clothing to me, another self-hating man doing the dirty work for them.
You got it right. Too bad there are so many of these pathetic male male-haters. If he castrated himself, he would deserve what he is.
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Anonymous User writes "Read about Laura Bush's expose for her second-term agenda. She comes out swinging for ... *Gasp*... Boys' education! Read all about it in Maggie Gallagher's