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by mcc99 on 01:32 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#1)
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Yes, it seems the UN thinks all men are natural swimmers and can evade floods using their magic penises and patricarchal powers, all the while laughing maniacally as they wacth helpless wymyn drown.
Guess these folks never saw "The Titanic", did they?
Truth is much stranger than fiction. That is why I don't bother reading fiction books. Non-fiction is far more interesting, and harder to believe. The UN I am afraid has totally lost it at this point. This is too bad since the problems of global warming are real and can be addressed. However when they use the most ridiculous means of trying to popularize it with such silliness as this, they cause people to not pay much attention. The assertion that women are harmed more than men by climate change is as ridiculous as the assertion that men are more likely to survive a shell exploding next to them than are women, and that therefore women should not be sent into combat. Utter hogwash. And anyone with half a brain can see it.
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by Anonymous User on 01:42 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#2)
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I can't believe what I'm reading. I had to re-read to see if they were serious. Not only are male lives devalued, but I guess even people with disabilities and in wheelchairs, who would die before anyone else, don't even count as much as women do. I was once an environmental activist and I still have sympathies for it but when they talk this kind of misandrist crap with their women-matter-more innuendo I lose interest in anything these idiots have to say.
Marc
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by Anonymous User on 01:43 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#3)
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Aw, for cryin' out loud.
Are they SERIOUS? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
Here, let me try one.
Uhm..., A giant asteroid will hit the earth, next week, desimateing ALL life on the planet.
...Women will be affected most...,
*sheesh*
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by thea on 01:57 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#4)
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I know how to swim, so I'll be just fine. It's not your guys' fault that some women don't know how to swim. Thanks UN for reminding men how they once again should forget about their problems and issues and ALWAYS put the so-called "problems" of women before their own needs. The UN is a crock of shit. Always putting out scare-tactic stories like this to get nations to pamper the already over-pampered women of their countries even more. I actually like swimming, so bring it on Global Warming! Oh and shut-the-fuck-up UN! We already know how hopelessly chivalrous, feministic, and pussy-whipped you are.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 08:05 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#13)
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"Aw, for cryin' out loud.
Are they SERIOUS? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard."
I agree. This is one of the most absurd things I've read in a long time, and I really thought someone was spoofing us, when I first saw it. I'm still having a hard time believing this is not somebody's idea of a practical joke that somehow made it into print.
On another note, correct me if I'm wrong, but when I took all those life saving classes a long time ago it was mentioned on more than one occasion that boobs are natural flotation devices. You'd think the U.N. would have taken that into consideration. I believe I read somewhere that women in general have a higher level of body fat then men, also contributing to their superior flotation qualities.
Of course I don't see any people in those poorer countries that tend to have much body fat to spare so the 2nd item may be somewhat a moot point.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:41 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#24)
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Most feminist's HEADS are natural floatation devices.
You know, because they are full of air.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by MacKenna on 01:27 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#27)
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Of course, the boobs are natural flotation devices...
This is why the US Navy tradition refers to "flotation vests" as "Mae Wests" to honor the actresses' famed amply bosomed profile.
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by thea on 01:39 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#28)
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Uh...what about us who aren't all that 'well endowed'? Not every woman has boobs like the MAXIM girls (and I would NEVER put silicone or any other form of plastic in my boobs anyways). I know how to swim and tred water for a long time, so I don't need 'extra flotation devices'. A vest would be enough for me.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 11:46 PM December 19th, 2004 EST (#44)
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I'm against equality, stop your bitching.
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by Anonymous User on 03:16 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#5)
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Severe weather caused by global warming can pose greater physical danger to women than men, a Canadian attending a UN conference on climate change said Friday.
'For instance, often women don't know how to swim, so in a flood situation that can lead to a higher instance of death or injury,' Angie Daze, a program manager with a Canadian group called Reducing Vulnerability to Climate Change, said."
Gees. And here I thought you were making this stuff up. I really believed that no feminist in their right mind would really make such a pathetic statement!
I would expect them to reference children being at greater risk than men.
Well, that being said, here comes the argument that it is in the "best interest of the children" to stop all technological progress.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 05:45 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#10)
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Ms. Daze (appropriate name, as she clearly is IN one...) represents the state-of-the-art in feminutsy social scientific expertise.
Any crisis can be spun to show that women are MORE victimized...
Obviously women's "aquatic inequality" is yet another subtle, insidious conspiracy by the Evil Patriarchy.
Though one might observe that the female anatomy provides often impressive flotation appendages with inherently buoyant qualities.
Ms. Daze forgot to mention that millions of menopausal women are doubly victimized by global warming, as they suffer additionally from "hot flashes" in the midst of planetary temperature increases.
I'm looking forward to a feminist analysis of how the hole in the ozone layer victimizes women more than men because females have an inalienable right to be tanned.
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by crescentluna
(evil_maiden @ yahoo.com)
on 06:07 AM December 17th, 2004 EST (#18)
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Ooo! Me me me! I can think up one!!
>I'm looking forward to a feminist analysis of how the hole in the ozone layer victimizes women >more than men because females have an >inalienable right to be tanned.
Because the evil Patriarchy [tm] uses the ozone to make women Slaves to their Fascist Beauty Standards [tm] by burning/tanning them more! They are more affected by skin cancer [which actually I think skin cancer hits men harder, because men do more 'outdoors' work, I think I read that somewheres, but anyway] because of the Evil Patriarchy!
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by mens_issues on 09:18 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#39)
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Because the evil Patriarchy [tm] uses the ozone to make women Slaves to their Fascist Beauty Standards [tm] by burning/tanning them more! They are more affected by skin cancer [which actually I think skin cancer hits men harder, because men do more 'outdoors' work, I think I read that somewheres, but anyway] because of the Evil Patriarchy!
Chief Patriarch [raising chalice]: "Hail to The Patriarchy!"
Senior Patriarchs [raising chalices in unison]: "The Patriarchy makes us strong!"
Steve
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by Anonymous User on 11:11 AM December 19th, 2004 EST (#42)
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"Chief Patriarch [raising chalice]: "Hail to The Patriarchy!"
Senior Patriarchs [raising chalices in unison]: "The Patriarchy makes us strong!"
This could get out. I can just see the femi-tabloids. I can see the photo they post of an old KKK meeting with the headline, Phalliarchy! Phalliarchy! Phalliarchy!
Then, the next week, we'll see an article in the main stream media, Are Men's Rights Activists a Growing Threat to Women?
A few months later a new bill will be passed with Draconian measures to criminalize all men anytime a woman says she feels threatened. It will allow cops to kick in doors to any residence, where innocent people are sleeping, and not even need a search warrant. Oh wait a minute that last one is already in place and its called VAWA. I think the main stream media already has its presses set to the man-hating mode as well.
I've always wanted to publish a Mad Magazine type spoof on the femi-archies delusional hallucinations and nutty escapades, and your visonary meeting of the Patriarchy would be great stuff.
YOU DARE MOCK THE MATRIARCHY?
Hell hath no fury like a feminist law maker with misandry in her heart!
Men will pay for their masculinity if the Matriarchy has anything to say about it! To prison you male scum, to the death jobs, to the wars, out of schools, out of families, die young, wander the streets homeless, etc., etc., etc... Confess your evil maleness!
The Patriarchy made me do it. The Patriarchy made me do it. The Patriarchy made me do it. The Patriarchy made...
Yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn... Zzzzzz...
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 03:43 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#7)
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So this is the reason for "women and children in the lifeboats first."?!! It's just more male-hating crap treating men like disposable sub-humans.
It's appalling that this crap is reported as fact rather than denounced as sexist.
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 03:56 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#8)
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Would the environmental worker in Bangladesh that made the following statements, please stand up and explain them to this humble moron? "Women are highly dependent on the environment for their family responsibilities" in developing countries, said one environmental worker based in Bangladesh.
"Any type of environmental degradation impacts them more severely than men." I guess this means that men who farm the land can rejoice because only his neighboring women farmers will be affected. I mean, there are women farmers, right? Especially in 3rd world nations where oxen still pull a single shovel plow and working from dawn till dusk no longer falls within a man's domain. Don't the men have to eat too? I reckon not. Men who farm don't depend on the environment, do they? Is farming no longer considered a family responsibilty? Heck no, the man got kicked out because of the divorce. The environmental changes have caused the child support payment to be late because the mail man, er, mail woman, can't deliver the mail. Since all of the men no longer have to worry about familial responsibilities and have nothing better to do than hang around the local pool hall, I can see how this would affect women more than men. This MUST be the only logical explanation, right??? Am I right, am I right, am I right, am I right....???? I happen to think that the ridiculous things I just wrote make as much or more sense than Mr/Mrs/Mz environmental worker from Bangladesh. But, that's just me.
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by Cain on 06:47 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#11)
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A couple years ago a canadian production company produced a reality show recreating the lives lived by homesteaders.
They basically took two couples and dropped them in the middle of the Manitoba prairies with only the basics that the original homesteaders would have had.
They lived in tents until the men could get the homes built, they planted gardens, and plowed and sowed their fields behind a team of horses.
The job of plowing the fields was usually a two man job, one to run the team and the other to manage the plow. At one point in the program the younger couple was left on there own because the older man had been accused of sexual assault and had to leave the program ( the charges were eventually dropped *cough*) so the younger couple attempted to do the job of plowing on there own. But the horse team refused to listen the women, so she tried her hand at the plow but was physically incapable of handling the job.
So at that point she looks at the camera and says "gee i guess the traditional divisions of labour might have a real reason behind them" Which pretty much said it all. The female view of the world, that they themselves live in, is determined by what they are told and not by the clear and present evidence around them. Or at least not until they get their noses rubbed in it.
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by Anonymous User on 04:31 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#9)
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"How in the name of God's Green Earth can EVERYTHING that happens either naturally, or un-naturally, ALWAYS be detrimental to WOMEN?????"
Easy. It's called cherry picking. Despite the fact that men are more susceptible to starvation, more apt to get ill from infectious diseases, more apt to be targets of violence in times of turmoil, are less likely to be helped first in times of emergency (women & children first!), and have higher death rates due to nearly every cause of human mortality worldwide, etc... focus only on those restricted circumstances where women are at greater risk than men, even if those circumstances are uncommon and present little overall risk. At the same time, totally ignore the overwhelming global circumstance which demonstrates that the exact opposite is true!
This is the entire premise of "gender" (as opposed to euqlitarian) feminism, for those of you haven't figured it out yet. Some women think that guys should be flattered by these trends to newfound girlish behavior among some feminists. Not me! My ego is never stroked.
Even if we were to just focus on swimming, which is basically a non-issue, it would be helpful to know, that despite the fact that women allegedly are more likely not to know how to swim (from where those statistics come, I don't know), ignore the fact that they have a higher body fat content and therefore have greater non-swimming bouyancy and lower susceptibility to hypothermia. Look at the survivor and death statistics for the Titanic. (Of course the greatest bias was in the fact that men were for the most part excluded from the emergency boats.)
What a laugh. I'm going to send this one to all of my friends.
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by Anonymous User on 07:53 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#12)
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"Any type of environmental degradation impacts them more severely than men."
"I am woman hear me roar in numbers to big to ignore... I am invincible... I am woman..." Helen Reddy - the 70's
"I am woman hear me bore with feminist lies that make men snore. I am victim. I am drowning. I am boring. I am woman."
Anyone out there praying for rain yet???
Ray
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 09:38 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#14)
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I almost bust, busted, burst(?) a gut.
I am invincible,
when it suits me.
When it doesn't,
I know who to blame!
That was my poem, Ray. Pretty good, huh? OK, I'll work on it.
When the earth is covered with water, and all the women have drowned....Well, face it guys. We gotta put at least ONE of them in the lifeboat. I mean, we WILL need to repopulate. Oh darn, I forgot about those pesky laptop computers that have fried our gonads and rendered us sterile. Oh well, end of matriarchy, end of patriarchy, end of story....
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by MAUS on 06:29 AM December 18th, 2004 EST (#34)
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Pray for rain you say Ray. Ok you Christian folks do your lobbying. Thundercloud, show me that rain dance just a tad slower, I got two left feet because the Churh of Christ didn't permit dancing.
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by Anonymous User on 01:13 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#35)
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I'm Cherokee. We don't do the "rain dance" thing.
You want some one from the Hopi tribe, for that.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by MAUS on 02:11 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#37)
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Makes sense, their ancestral lands were dryer. What does not make a lot of sense to me is I live in Canada and we have signed the Kyoto Accord. They want us to turn our furnaces down. If the Earth was getting any warmer here, people would turn their furnaces down....duh.Worst case scenario where I live is the beach might get a bit closer and we might get winters like Carolina.I just might leave my doors and windows wide open and crank my furnace up.Folks in Bangladesh are just going to have to learn to get along better with their neighbours and be prepared to move.
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 05:04 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#38)
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Omigosh,
I too am dance impaired (how politically correct of me) because I was also "raised" in the Church of Christ. No mixed swimming, no poker, no dancin', no boozin', no prostitutes or wife swapping. Well, I threw those last 2 in. I couldn't dance the 2 step to save my life much less "get down with it". Well, all of that clean living caught up with me when I turned 18. I had to see what I was missing. Talk about clueless.
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In the 1920's it was found women lived (on average) a year longer than men. Since then it has moved out to women living (on average) seven years longer than men ! ! !
Question:
Is the reason for this . . . all the things that now impact more on women than men ? ? ?
Somehow, I cannot make this add up properly !
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by Anonymous User on 07:40 AM December 17th, 2004 EST (#22)
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"Is the reason for this . . . all the things that now impact more on women than men ? ? ?"
I've wondered about this too, and suspect that the number of women who die in child birth has decreased. Still other imporvements in health care have increased the life spans of both men and women so why the big disparity that has appeared since the 20's? Was there something that was killing women exclusively in large numbers like childbirth, that has imporved since 1920?
Has the medical community not shown the same care for men as women, or is the disparity created by the more life threatening, higher paying jobs that men must take to support their families?
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 10:04 PM December 16th, 2004 EST (#16)
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why can't women swim just as good as men?
They're in Olympic swim teams. And they have orchestrated swimming competitions too.
Why couldn't a woman swim just as well as a man?
When you get tired you lie on your back and with little effort you float around.
Or you can rest with the dead mans float with your face resting in the water and your body keeping you afloat. All you have to do is come up for air every once in a while.
We could solve this problem by making a nice little "Global Warming Against Women Act" law where all women who are within a certain distance from water must wear a flotation device. But you know that would somehow turn into discrimination against women too!
And who knows maybe humanity needs to evolve better human swimmers and weed out the bad ones for our species survival...hardhar---har
p. george
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by Dave K on 01:08 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#26)
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Well as a swimmer it's certainly my opinion that women can indeed swim as well as men. They're not quite as FAST due to muscle mass differences but I doubt there's a significant difference in the duration they're capable of swimming for.
I'd have thought this article came from the onion if I didn't see it for myself.
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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by crescentluna
(evil_maiden @ yahoo.com)
on 06:10 AM December 17th, 2004 EST (#19)
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Oh my god are YOU back? Haven't seen you in eons, man.
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by Anonymous User on 12:51 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#25)
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Speaking of people M.I.A. on this board, Does anyone know what has happened to Dan Lynch? I havn't seen a post from him in a very long time.
'haven't seen Gonzo (the Gonzo kid) in a while either, come to think of it...,
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Ragtime on 06:47 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#32)
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"Speaking of people M.I.A. on this board, Does anyone know what has happened to Dan Lynch? I havn't seen a post from him in a very long time.
'haven't seen Gonzo (the Gonzo kid) in a while either, come to think of it...,"
Hi TC,
Was speaking to Dan just the other day. He's currently gone back to school and is taking, I think, an advertising course. He doesn't have Internet access at home right now -- he only has his school account, and is trying to avoid the time-sucking distraction that posting to forums can be. :-) He sends his greetings to MensActivism, though.
Last I heard of Gonzo he had started writing for a men's site or two. Think he may have been on MND...
I miss them both, though.
Ragtime
The Uppity Wallet
The opinions expressed above are my own,
but you're welcome to adopt them.
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by jenk on 04:48 AM December 18th, 2004 EST (#33)
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Gonzo's been on Stand Your Ground too.
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by Anonymous User on 01:16 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#36)
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Ragtime,
Thanks for the info.
As long as we know they're doing okay.
Hopefully we'll see them back here eventualy.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by mens_issues on 09:20 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#40)
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The Boston "Pocket Rocket" Party! What a riot.
Steve
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by crescentluna
(evil_maiden @ yahoo.com)
on 06:14 AM December 17th, 2004 EST (#20)
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All right, more laughing, because in that capacity nobody will take them seriously.
Geezus, you think in a flood SWIMMING is going to save you?? What the hell kind of remark is that? Can I bang my head into the desk enough? :P
And you people forgot, women everywhere countries do ALL the work, with men doing none. Especially in third world countries, where men sit around picking their teeth while the women work themselves to death bearing children in the fields and then continuing to plow. ;)
Oww, my brain has hurt enough, off of to statistics final [in a few hours].
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 06:48 AM December 17th, 2004 EST (#21)
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I don't know whether to laugh or what.
If the polar icecaps melt and sea-levels rise, causing global environmental disaster, is being able to swim really going to help? What is she advocating? Government and the UN should provide free swimming lessons for women?
The only way to make sense of this is to see it as media manipulation.
I remember just before the invasion of Iraq, I came across a female anti-war activist giving out leaflets claiming that the war was going to be worse for women. I questioned her about this, and she immediately caved in and admitted that it would be worse for men, as they are the ones doing the fighting, but mentioning women was a strategy for drawing media attention to the anti-war cause.
This seems to me to be similar. The trouble is, it is so transparent that it has just become a joke.
The interesting thing about it is that it is appealing to conservative notions of gender. The weaker sex needs special help.
Women are the weaker sex when that it feminists, and they are at the same time, powerful revolutionary warriors when that suits.
Feminism will continue as long as there is money to be made from hating men.
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the obvious here.
which is the evil male conspirary to get the weather extremely warm for our own sexual pleasures.
because as we all know, when weather is warmer women will wear skimpier outfits.
--bandersnatch
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by Anonymous User on 03:24 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#29)
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Flooding will adversly effect men over women because the male body is on average more dense with bone and muscle mass. A womens body, naturally speaking, will have more fatty tissue, as such the female will tend to float better than the males.
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by Anonymous User on 04:05 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#30)
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Yep.
But that would make SENCE! But remember we are dealing with feminists. Those gals and guys have NO sense, what so ever.
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by MAUS on 05:39 PM December 17th, 2004 EST (#31)
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Bosun: "Man the lifeboats, women and children first!"
Unsinkable Molly Brown: "Oh that's just so sexist. You should say:"person the lifeboats, gays, lesbians, and visible minorities first"
Gay passenger with sillibant lisp: "She's absolutely right! Quit shoveing Old Black Joe."
Bosun BANG!!!: "Take that! You sufferigette!!"
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by Anonymous User on 09:51 PM December 18th, 2004 EST (#41)
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I believe that in this century Bangladesh has seen major poplulation growth. For years people did not live there, because the land is so flat and prone to major flooding at times.
I recall several decades ago that a storm or tidal surge or something caused suddenly rising water that came rolling in from the ocean and killed large numbers of people - something like that.
Ironically, decades ago we didn't have the major feminist influence in media that we do today, and I recall the story incorrectly reporting "surging water kills a lot of "people."' Of course as we know now, the emphasis should have been the destructive effect in female's lives.
Again, I don't recall the lost lives being reported by gender, but it would be interesting to see those numbers. As we saw at the world trade center, noble, courageous men routinely risk their lives to help others in distress; the weak, the needy, etc. so it's possible there were more males killed than females.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 01:52 PM December 19th, 2004 EST (#43)
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Okay.
I think we can all, now, safely say that the feminists are dumber than a bag of door knobs...! This just PROVES it.
Are there ANY of them left that haven't mentaly gone bye-bye???
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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