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Ugh. Murder is OK as long as the murdered is male and the murderer female. Better even still if the man is the father of the woman's children.
It's not enough apparently that it's condoned to simply remove by force men from the lives of their chidren. It is OK also to remove by force the life of a man provided it is the mother of his children doing it. When a man gets married, he is picking the person who receives a pass to kill him when she feels it warranted.
Marriage anyone?
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Can you imagine a movie about a man who killed his wife with a baseball bat and the narrator says that "Mr Harris was fighting for his family." This stuff is simply insane. It's over the edge.
Call them. Write them. Raise hell.
Do we have True Equality?
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So, I used some text from my post above. Hey, I plaigarized myself, is that cool or what?! :)
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"Suburban Madness" was madness indeed! The writers close the show with "Clara Harris was in a life and death fight for her family. Her survival instinct kicked in. I want you to ask yourself, would you kill to save your family?"
Looks like CBS has bought into the feminist line in toto. Murder is OK as long as the murdered is male and the murderer female. Better even still if the man is the father of the woman's children.
It's not enough apparently that it's condoned to simply remove by force men from the lives of their chidren. It is also, apprently, OK to remove by force the life of a man provided it is the mother of his children doing it. When a man gets married, he is picking the person who receives a pass to kill him when she feels it warranted. Is it any wonder so many men are not interested in marriage these days?
CBS, you can do better than this.
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by Anonymous User on 03:57 PM October 5th, 2004 EST (#3)
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CBS condoneing anti-male violence.
No shocker.
They are pretty typical of the pro-feminist anti-male establishment media.
I didn't even bother to watch this garbage.
I knew that (Clara) Harris would be depicted as a hero and her husband the villan.
This movie was made simply for those women in our society that literaly GET OFF on seeing women kill or abuse men. These same women would DEARLY love to do the same. And it is likely they will and already do.
Again, I didn't bother to watch it, because I knew what would be said and in what calibur.
The media is intensly predictable.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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It floors me every time I hear that Clara Harris is some kind of heroine for murdering her husband, even if he was cheating. Since when do hurt feelings legitimize any action by a female? "Her survival instinct kicked in?" WTF?? Are you people insane? This has even less credibility than your news department. CBS used to be a great network. As far as I'm concerned you can all go to hell.
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Isn't it the Family Violence Prevention Fund that constantly tells us "There is no excuse for domestic violence!"
So where are their voices now? Were they on the front lines condemning Clara Harris' act of supreme violence against her husband? I man, cheating is no excuse for DV. They tell us there is "no excuse".
Of course, I know full well why they haven't said anything. The victim was male.
"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
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by Anonymous User on 07:10 PM October 5th, 2004 EST (#7)
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The CBS studio's out here are in Hollywood. Does anybody know if this aired on the West Coast? Would picketing the place be in order?
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Here is the letter I sent to CBS. Not one of my finest, but I think I hit the high points. And especially because I didn't have the pertinent info (did they show Clara's affair and a hundred other details I could not stomach to learn by watching this garbage)
I am writing to you concerning “Suburban Madness”.
This is an evil and terrible thing to perpetuate the myth that “poor innocent” Clara Harris was justified in killing her husband for having an affair. Not only did it excuse her, but Clara herself was having an affair, as verified by the SAME DETECTIVE, Bobbi Bacha of Blue Moon Investigations in court testimony.
Are you planning, anytime soon, to air a comparative story where a man who is having an affair, finds out his wife is also having one, and then in front of her child murders her? Obviously the question is rhetorical, because I cannot imagine you would glorify Domestic Violence Murder if the victim was a woman.
What is particularly evil, in a Dan Rather/CBS kind of twist, is how you sent the message that this movie was somehow wholly based on fact (rather than lying by omission), how you didn’t show the victim (David Harris, in case you needed a reminder) in a sympathetic light whatsoever, and how the airing of this movie might contribute to more women thinking that D.V. against men, even up to and including murder, will be mitigated and sanctified.
Were we to reverse the genders here is how I would see this story:
David Harris, who is having an affair, suspects his wife of doing the same. He hires a detective and when he finds out his wife is ALSO having an affair, flies into a “completely understandable” rage and runs his wife over ***3*** times, with his teen daughter in the car screaming, begging in fact, for him to stop.
It would not be hard to find such a story. Are you planning on encouraging D.V. murder of women on nation wide T.V. in such a manner anytime soon?
Between Dan Rather and this “Docu-drama” CBS has proven that a tabloid “say anything to get ratings/sales” mentality has settled in quite comfortably at CBS.
Murdering your spouse is perfectly ok if HE is committing adultery. Don’t worry, the MSM (Main Stream Media) will not only tell a slanted version of the truth. Your rewriting the “truth” to fit an agenda that men are less than equals when it comes to justice is truly depraved.
This woman murdered her husband for the same “crime” that she committed. She did it in front of her daughter. She lied to the police and got caught lying about how it happened. She was obviously a sick sick woman. And you applauded her for it.
Don’t you wonder why the MSM has no credibility anymore. Barbara Walters (yes, she’s from ABC) giving a “sympathetic” interview to Kay LeTourneau with softball questions and allowing her to excuse her predatory sexual escapades with a 12 year old. Had her husband run HER over with his car, with his child(ren) in it, would you have made a movie to excuse it?
Dan Rather and Ms Mapes destroy the credibility of CBS News, and your anti-male/pro-female DV Murder “docu-drama” have destroyed your entertainment division’s credibility.
I guess CBS is now officially the tabloid of the “big 3”. Next time someone is inclined to commit D.V. murder, you share part of the blame. The “it’s only entertainment” excuse rings awfully hollow. Have you, at long last, no shame?
L. Steven Beene II
Alaska
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 09:48 AM October 6th, 2004 EST (#9)
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Steve.
You're too hard on yourself. That letter is just fine. Good job.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Your letter is just fine Steven. It describes exactly the feelings of millions of men. The question is, will they get the message?
Bert
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Fighting for men's rights is fighting for children's and women's right's as well.
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by Anonymous User on 02:04 PM October 6th, 2004 EST (#11)
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Getting the media to listen is like talking to a bag of hammers.
We may want to go to their sponcers.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Great submission Steve... of course you'll be lucky if you even receive a form letter in reply.
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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by Anonymous User on 03:21 PM October 6th, 2004 EST (#13)
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Dave, I'm glad I caught you.
Tell Jen to quit it, and get back here.
Even Pheadra was on our side to get her to come back!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Bah... don't worry about her... she's just a hothead (one of the things I like about her... lol).
She tends to let stuff get to her... and then she blows up (same thing I do... except online stuff very rarely has that affect on me), and some things were said that were targeted right at women like her (stay at home moms). The feminazi's have been after Jen and women like her for years, so it got to her when a group that she considers on her side went after her too. I talked to her about it later and suggested she take a week off, and after that time I expect she'll miss all the regulars enough that she'll be back.
On an open board like this you're bound to get offended often if you let yourself be, and she hasn't got the years of practice at detached disinterest that I have. :)
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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Dave,
Let Jen know we love her to death (you know what I mean!) and that she's well well respected, writes well, and has "earned her spurs" numerous times!
I'm totally a Bisquit Queen fan and want her to come back!
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 04:08 PM October 6th, 2004 EST (#14)
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I found an interesting page about the media and feminists. It explains very WELL why we keep seeing this type of programing.
Here's the address;
http://www.freewebs.com/mensrights/sex4.htm
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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I think I've come across this fellow before, Thundercloud. Last year, I alerted another group about an Australian woman who put on her personal website a conversation she had with another woman, in which they gleefully recounted times they'd hurt men (and boys) there. The other woman even had some sort of (supposedly consensual) fetish "bet" with her ex, and if he lost (which he did), she would get to kick him there.
Well, I referred this to another site, and this dude caught wind of it, and started some real trouble in Australia. I more had in mind that people there could call the authorities, but what he did was personally threaten her with the act mentioned in his piece. (At least maybe now she won't be so cavalier about hurting men there anymore!)
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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