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Males Are Never too Young to be Humiliated...
posted by Matt on 11:15 AM September 28th, 2004
Boys/Young Men ... by a woman, or so it appears yet again. The War on Boys continues unabated. Latest chapter is here. You can be sure she would not have done this to a little girl.

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Control and public humiliation (Score:1)
by AngryMan (end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk) on 11:29 AM September 28th, 2004 EST (#1)
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"Spencer's underwear would not have been exposed if the shirt was left down. "I don't understand what motivated her to ask him to lift up his shirt," he said. "

I suspect power and control had something to do with it - it certainly wasn't in the interests of the boy.

Can you imagine the outrage if a male teacher had done this to a girl?


Don't get mad. Get organised.
Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:41 AM September 28th, 2004 EST (#2)
She probably gets off on boys wrapped in duct tape, or something.
That's kind of a thing with alot of women, these days.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:1)
by thea on 02:25 PM September 28th, 2004 EST (#3)
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"That's kind of thing with a lot of women, these days."

Shit, NOT me! I'm NOT into humiliation as a way of getting off! That's just wrong!

And on a kid?! I hope that woman gets arrested someday and then sexually assaulted by her fellow female inmates so she can see how it feels.

Sounds like that woman read way too much of Marquis de Sade's literature.

Man, that guy was freakin' weird.


*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:1)
by Peter on 12:13 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#8)
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Gentlemen: I keep trying to tell you this behavior is nothing new. I attended catholic schools during the late 1950's and early 60's. All female teachers and I could sit here all morning at the keyboard telling you stories of boys being humiliated by female teachers etc. Girls, well never that I can recall.
      As I said in a previous post I had four teenage girls make their older brother and his friend pull my little britches down because I refused to at their request. Once in grade school, I would guess at 5 th grade all us boys were sent to the nurses room for a physical. My self and another boy (his name was John DeGroff)
had been misbehaving a little that morning. The nurse (Mrs. Harris) had all the boys unbutton their shirts and pants. Myself and John were ordered by her to strip to our undershorts. So there we were in front of our male class mates and a female nurse. I told my mother but not my father. Mom was not concerned a bit, her attitude was boys are boys. It did not happen again and I graduated from that school at 8th grade.
    No I am not saying it is right but I think women will always do this to boys and men. I really think they do not see anything wrong with this.

            Pete in Nebraska
Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on 12:52 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#10)
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"No I am not saying it is right but I think women will always do this to boys and men."

They will if no one says anything. Are the people who did this to you still around?

bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:1)
by Peter on 02:04 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#13)
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I would bet a lot of them are still around but I am sure some have passed on,the nuns that is. The teenage girls I would bet they are for sure. This all occured when I was just a kid in New York state, I now live in Nebraska. I harbor no bad feelings against the four girls as two of them were my older friends. But that day when some of us gathered in their parents guest house, they summoned two other teenage female friends and wanted me to put on a little show for them. I was an extremely shy kid and would not even be seen wearing shorts. When the girls older brother asked me to strip down for the girls I refused, so the brother and his friend did it for me. But I do harbor bad feelings for any catholic priest and especially nuns. I would not give any of them a dime if they were starving to death.

          Pete in Nebrasda
Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:2)
by Thomas on 01:29 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#11)
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I attended catholic schools during the late 1950's and early 60's. All female teachers and I could sit here all morning at the keyboard telling you stories of boys being humiliated by female teachers etc. Girls, well never that I can recall.

Pete:

I went through the same thing in the late-50s and early-60s in Catholic school. To me the most brutal women were Sister Ann Regina and Sister Mary Fides (I may not have that spelling exactly right) of the Sisters of Divine Providence in the Diocese of Bridgeport, Connecticut.

I've met many men who also went through horrendous abuse at the hands of the nuns. Whenever I've asked them if they ever saw a nun abuse a girl, their answer has been no. In most cases (talk about being blind to one's own oppression) they were surprised when they considered the question and found that the answer was "no." They'd never thought about it.

There's been a lot of publicity about sexual abuse by priests and a little about sexual abuse by nuns, but I've seen nothing about the extreme brutality meted out by the nuns against boys. If you're interested in discussing this further, contact me at mensrights01@yahoo.com. I think it would be worth getting the facts out about this.

Thomas
-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:1)
by Peter on 01:52 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#12)
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Thomas;
        Very interesting, My school was located in Newburgh,N.Y. which is less than 100 Miles from Brigeport,CT. My teachers were all nuns but for a very short time my parents put me in public schools. Female teachers there too and they were as bad as the nuns. I remember there was rarely a day when I was not having to stay after school for some bullshit reason. The female teachers were a terror.
    Then high school where we had a few male teachers. Again mostly female. I remember Mrs. Alexander, a youngish lady I had for a math teacher. Same old shit, if your were a boy and got out of line, well look out.
      I believe all this is part of the female physche. I post at a mostly female forum. One of the moderators an active poster herself frequently talks down to me as if I were 5 years old. She is very nice and always makes me feel welcome but she has this very superior mentality.
    Hell my neighbors 7 year old granddaughter talks to me as if I am 4 years old. As I said this is just part of the female mentality, I have witnessed this behavior by women all my life.
      Thomas I will shoot you an e-mail soon and maybe we can exchange stories about the terror nuns. Sounds like we went through similiar ordeals.

            Pete in Nebraska
Re:Control and public humiliation (Score:2)
by Thomas on 02:06 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#14)
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My school was located in Newburgh,N.Y. which is less than 100 Miles from Brigeport,CT.

I should add that, though the abuse occurred in the Diocese of Bridgeport, I was in St. Cecilia's grade school in Stamford, CT.

I will shoot you an e-mail soon and maybe we can exchange stories about the terror nuns. Sounds like we went through similiar ordeals.

Many men went through the same. We can talk about this more by email, but I want to encourage other men who went through the abuse to consider contacting me at mensrights01@yahoo.com. When you write, consider taking action. There are organizations dealing with the victims of the sexual abuse. If enough of us insist, perhaps they'll take up the cause of the victims of violent abuse as well. If they refuse, maybe we can get the media to start reporting on it. Glenn Sacks comes to mind.

Thomas
-- Creating hostile environments for feminazis since the 1970s.

P.C. run amok (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:26 PM September 28th, 2004 EST (#4)
I suspect this school has some kind of zero tolerance policy that includes clothing that might be deemed to appear "gang" type dress. Dress codes in school are one issue, but what happened in this article is quite another.

The lifting of the shirt, the duct taping of the boy's clothing involved touching the boy, and that itself should be prosecuted as assault.

If this school wanted to enforce its dress code in some administrative way, such as sending the boy home with a letter explaining their reasoning, that may have had some basis in board apporved school policy.

I hope the parents of this boy get a good attorney and sue this misandrist school district for every penny they can get.

That would send a message to our radical feminized schools and government, "KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF OUR MALE BODIES!"

Sincerely, Ray
I wouldn't have handled it that way... BUTTTT... (Score:1)
by Dave K on 07:00 PM September 28th, 2004 EST (#5)
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    That whole fashion statement of wearing your pants around your ankles has to be the stupidest damn thing I've ever seen. Talk about looking loke an ignorant fool.

      She should've sent the kid home until he could find pants that fit... and she certainly had no right to touch him, duct tape him or utilize any other physical intervention.
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
Re:I wouldn't have handled it that way... BUTTTT.. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:12 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#7)
Don't alot of schools have this "no contact" rule thing, now a days? A teacher (probably ESPECIALY male ones) aren't even allowed to HUG a kid let alone TOUCH one.
I might be going out on a limb, here, but wouldn't the teacher have to TOUCH the student in order to put tape on him?
Just a thought.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Teacher Wrong; Dad Worse (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:09 AM September 29th, 2004 EST (#6)
Sure the teacher is power hungry, but what about the Dad? He's the biggest idiot in the whole mess. Raise your kid, don't expect the schools to do it. Who bought him the baggy pants? Who let him out the door dressed that way?

Yeah, I agree the media attention would be 10 fold had it been a male teacher and female student, but it doesn't diminish the fact the parent is the problem.
Re:Teacher Wrong; Dad Worse (Score:1)
by canaryguy (nospam.canaryguy@nospam.stealthfool.com) on 12:16 PM September 29th, 2004 EST (#9)
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An Anonymous User writes:
Sure the teacher is power hungry, but what about the Dad? He's the biggest idiot in the whole mess. Raise your kid, don't expect the schools to do it. Who bought him the baggy pants? Who let him out the door dressed that way?


Sounds like a distracting tactic. The teacher screwed up -- don't try to distract from that fact.

Y'know, I don't see people blaming single mothers when their children run wild. Why is that? When a mother is effectively the only parent, shouldn't they get most of the blame?

Instead, we get people like "Anonymous User" pinning the blame on men.
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