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The old gender feminist cliche is the tone of this article.
Once again the gender feminists who proclaim how strong and capable (and even superior to men-which we all know to be bullshit) women are, play the victimology card in order to tyrranize the male species.
Women NEVER have control over themselves when engaging in heterosexual sex! Women have NO responsibilities when it comes to heterosexual sex! (but women are allowed to take a man to court and plunder all of his money for child-support for kids that probably aren't his)
The blame is ALWAYS the male! The male is ALWAYS guilty! And yet the gender feminists indoctrinate us to believe that women are the mature ones and should take charge of ANY situation. Well maybe at feminized corporate offices but not when it comes to sex and criminal law.
The law excuses those who are incapable of concious rational thoughts during a "crime." According to gender feminists stanzas of how immature and inept males are, then the Law (if the feminists really believe males are that incapable rational/logical thought-which is hateful bullshit)would have to excuse Men from being prosecuted. Instead it would be the WOMAN who is put on trial, because SHE is the mentally mature one.
But gender feminists who operate behind the curtains of bureaucracy know this so they play to the "oh I'm just a poor woman trying to make it in an evil Phallocratic Patriarchy that teaches men to rape innocent little girls-uh Women, I mean strong willed Women like me to put me down! Woe is me," drama.
Feminism is about convenience [for women]. Just like Apu's Kwiki-Mart.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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That whole 'women are more mature' thing is BULLSHIT!!! If my sex is so much more mature than men, then how come people of my gender can't take responsibility for their own actions, or accept TRUE EQUALITY?!!!
TRUE EQUALITY DOES NOT HAVE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES!!!
BUT FEMINISM IS ALL ABOUT SPECIAL PRIVILEGES!!!
Maturity my ass!
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 10:22 AM September 25th, 2004 EST (#3)
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Why not outlaw sex with women altogether? The legal standard for permitting sex should be the level of interest in it. As a group, women claim not to be as interested in sex as men; therefore, as the risks outweigh the benefits, and as women must be protected from any possibility of harm, however remote, by law, the benefit of legally prohibiting women from engaging in sex (which would be one effect of making it illegal for all persons to have sex with a woman) outweighs the benefit to the statistically insignificant minority which claims to enjoy sex.
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by Anonymous User on 02:11 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#8)
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No offence to anyone, but isn't it weird that at the same time there are so many trying to outlaw heterosexual unions these same types of folks are trying to legalize GAY MARRIAGE?
Again, no offence to anyone here who might be gay, but it just seems odd..., I'm just asking; 'What the hell...?'
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 02:46 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#10)
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I often wonder why in the hell anyone would want the government to recognize their relationships. I cannot figure out why people insist on bringing the government into their homes. Weird.
Frankly, I don't much care if the government recognizes gay marriage, as I think there are much more relevant areas for MRA's to get involved in.
-h
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by Anonymous User on 04:29 AM September 26th, 2004 EST (#18)
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"No offence to anyone, but isn't it weird that at the same time there are so many trying to outlaw heterosexual unions these same types of folks are trying to legalize GAY MARRIAGE?"
I've noticed that too. Isn't it also curious that the poitically correct are so intolerant and bigoted. I've heard some refer to political correctness as the "tyranny of tolerance."
Ray
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I am glad that more people are waking up to this remarkable co-incidence Thundercloud. I can remember a time when you could be jailed for being homosexual...now they are determining the standards of right and proper for heterosexuals.
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Unprotected first-encounters are also correlated with coercion. Few men careful enough to use a condom are reckless enough to rape. The same recklessness that causes men to overlook the risk of disease and pregnancy can also lead them to overlook whether the woman has truly consented.
WTF???!!!??? When I read this, I was so outraged, I dropped my whiskey bottle!
What are we supposed to do...save the used condom? Put it in a zip-loc bag and mark it with the name and date of our "first time encounter" Maybe we should have the woman sign a waiver? And since when is an "Unprotected first-encounter" also "correlated with coercion"? What was I doing when that law got passed? Can women no longer assume responsibility for anything in their lives? What if we get an STD from them? Doesn't that count? But if they get it from a man, I guess the man should be charged with attempted murder, right?
I actually wouldn't mind crap like this so much if women just admitted to being what they really are...the weaker sex, who need protection. But this trying to have it both ways...weaker when it behooves them to act victimized or equal/better when they want some kind of perk, just doesn't cut it.
I'd stay and rant some more, but I've gotta get to the liqour store before it closers...
BRY
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by Anonymous User on 01:45 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#6)
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Unprotected first-encounters are also correlated with coercion.
Yea. This crap is total B.S. . There is that key term "correlation." It don't mean shit. I can easily do a statistical study and claim that women getting raped are correlated with the rise of feminism. Which is true, and the Marxist-Feminist would never claim that they should stop all feminist activities because feminism causes rape (which it does).
Correlation never means cause-n-affect, yet the public is too dumbed down to know this simple fact.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 02:07 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#7)
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Thea, why in the hell do you hate your own gender so much????
Phaedra
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by Anonymous User on 02:23 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#9)
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Pheadra, What the hell are you talking about?
Where did Thea say she hates her own gender??
She simply has an oppinion that feminists are scum. An oppinion that most of us here share. Just because she condems the feminists doesn't automaticaly put her against women.
Frankly, I'm tierd of that kind of mind-set. "If you're against feminists then you must be against women."
I'm personaly against Nazis, but believe me I have nothing against Germans as a whole...!
If you don't like the oppinions that we have here, go elsewhere. May I suggest..., well..., ANY millitant feminist website. They're all fairly monolithic, anyway. Perhaps you would find the oppinions there more to your likeing.
You'll find PLENTY of REAL hatred, there...!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:13 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#11)
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I'm not looking for hatered.
I'm saying that Thea has a real anger and what seems to me a real hatered of her own sex.
And I know the feminist websites can be hateful too. But so can alot of the oppinions on this site. Thea's are some of the worst.
Phaedra
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by Anonymous User on 03:31 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#12)
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Sorry, Pheadra.
I'm usualy pretty tolerant with most folks with opposing oppinions, here, but I think you are flat-out wrong.
Thea doesn't hate her own sex. She is appearantly frustrated, as many of us here are about the views and actions of SOME people of her own sex, but no where does she spew blanket hatered of her own gender.
I think you are confusing PASSION with hatred.
Thea is passionate about what she says. Give her a break, she's a college student. She's supposed to be passionate.
As far as you "not looking for hatred", I am only saying that if you want to go and critisize a website for spewing hatred, go to any given feminist website. You will see TRUE hatred there. Go chastise THEM for a while. Here you find admitable anger, frustration and passion. but RARELY is there any real hatred of ANYONE on this website.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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....then why not give some specific, concrete examples where you disagree with her? Not generalized statements, but actually specific examples of things that Thea has said that you disagree with.
It's easy to say things like "Why do you hate your own gender?" It's another matter entirely to actually engage someone on specific points.
If you're going to debate someone, you'd do well to have points that you can debate. Otherwise you just make yourself look foolish.
"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
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by Anonymous User on 12:13 AM September 26th, 2004 EST (#16)
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"I'm saying that Thea has a real anger and what seems to me a real hatered of her own sex."
You put words in Thea's mouth. I did not take anything she said as hating women. I think she just despises radical/gender feminist like the man hating bigots in women's studies classes. That makes perfect sense when you see how abusive they are not only to heterosexual men, but also to heterosexual women.
Isn't it funny how people had a live and let live attitude toward feminists back in the 70's when it was all about equality. It was the radical/gender feminists who decided to wage a war on men and heterosexuality much as it appears Phaedra is trying to do on this site. Phaedra should look first at the hostility she projects to the people on this site before she hurls bolders through the panes in her glass house. Phaedra appears more intent on revealing her own intolerance than in trying to understand the abuses people on this site have suffered at the hands of the radical/gender feminist agenda. Having anger against the later is certainly understandable given the abuses and human rights atrocities radical/gender feminsts have waged against heterosexual men and women.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 12:36 AM September 26th, 2004 EST (#17)
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"I think she just despises radical/gender feminists like the man hating bigots in women's studies classes. That makes perfect sense when you see how abusive they are not only to heterosexual men, but also to heterosexual women."
Did you hear the one about the women's studies professor who lost her voice so she took her parrot to school to give the lecture and no one noticed the difference.
(click) here
Please do not scroll up the page of linked item(s) All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
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by Anonymous User on 10:30 AM September 26th, 2004 EST (#21)
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Good one Ray.
That WAS you wasn't it, Ray?
I just wanna make sure I'm praiseing the right person.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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You really know how to great someone who just woke up from a nice nap....
This "why do you hate your own gender" bullshit is the type of bullshit rhetoric I would expect out of a gender feminist who is bewildered by the idea of a woman who doesn't believe in feminist-bullshit.
Hate my gender? Really? Because I raise interesting, rational, logical questions about the practices of most members of my gender I MUST HATE THEM!!! Isn't that right?
Just as in Bolshevik Russia, if someone raised a question to the Communist Party and tried to create an intellectual dialogue with them on the basis of a rational debate on certain issues, the poor person who was only trying to ask a question would be exilled to Siberia.
Hate my gender? Let's see here: the Communists assumed that anyone who asked a reasonable question with a slight hint of objection to a law was a EVIL and DISRUPTIVE person who had to be exiled to Siberia, and the Marxist-Feminists assume that any woman who has reasonable and logical questions directed towards the Feminist Status Quo, MUST havd self-hate issues.
In another words Phaedra, you're just refusing to answer my question in an ADULT manner!
Why can't some women accept TRUE EQUALITY?!!! Whay can't some women give up their SPECIAL PRIVLEGES?!!
You would think that such a mature species would be capable of that but I guess that would be too much common sense.
Sorry I didn't fall for your Feminist-Marxism Phaedra. Are you and the other "Party" members going to exile me for speaking out against your regime and pointing out some obvious hypocrisies committed by some women and feminists?
Sorry if the common sense logic was too much for you. Rational and intelligent debates that EXCLUDES childish personal attacks like 'you hate your gender' are usually reserved for logical adults. We leave the personal attacks to the kids.
I knew that and I'm only nineteen. Way to be lectured by someone who just started college Phaedra.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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I have a strong suspicion that Phaedra (Greek for "wolf" and who was the master of rhetoric nemisis of the logicians led by Socrates) is a female troll. Those who dare to question or criticise feminist bullshit must hate women....only feminists think this way....come out of your sheep's clothing Phaedra.
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by Anonymous User on 10:37 AM September 26th, 2004 EST (#22)
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Better yet Pheadra, Just go away.
No one here wants to listen to your troll B.S., anymore.
I'm an Indian who tries to fight ALL bigotry, including bigotry against white people. I want to end ALL bigotry. I suppose that by YOUR standards I'm a self-hateing-Indian, huh?
There is little difference between My stance and Thea's.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 11:24 AM September 26th, 2004 EST (#23)
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No.
There's a BIG difference between you and Thea's stances.
You don't come here and bad-mouth indians, the way Thea bad-mouths women.
And I'm not a troll. I signe my posts.
Phaedra
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by Anonymous User on 11:41 AM September 26th, 2004 EST (#25)
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Okay, fine. Maybe you're not a "troll". You do at least sighne your posts. I'll give you that.
As far as me not "bad mouthing indians", is conserned, however. You haven't seen me at rallies or Indian protests. I will "bad mouth" ANY other Indian who spews bigotry. I have chastised other Indians for makeing all sorts of bigoted remarks. Some against whites and others against blacks and other minorities. We Indians are human, too. We aren't above prejiduce, any more than any other human beings. I don't however "bad mouth" ALL Indians when I speak out against the ones who make racist comments. I "bad mouth" ONLY the one or ones who make racist remarks. Thea is doing the same thing, gender wise. She is "bad mouthing" (as you say) ONLY the women (and frankly a good number of men) who tow the feminist line, and wish to do harm to all men. (and some women)
So Thea's and My stances ARE the same.
And lastly, Pheadra, Do YOU think "unsafe sex" is a male crime against women? or do you think BOTH sexes are culpable? I can't WAIT to hear your response.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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As usual Phaedra you did NOT suprise me. You still won't answer my question like an ADULT. If you read my fucking post 'Dear Phaedra' which I probably can safely guess because you're a weakling with a frail ego (like all of you gender feminists are), you would see what I am really arguing about. Not bad mouthing.
Bad mouthing women? Oh please--you wish. Sounds like you're being a crybaby because your feelings are so easily hurt by rational criticism. You must be a masochist because it sounds like you want to be bashed constantly. Feminists would have no reason to exist if they didn't feel as if women were being bashed. But it's not bashing, it's educated critiquing. A skill you seriously lack.
Now if you want real women-bashing (that I do NOT believe in) then here you go:
*ahem* Women are stupid vaginas, women should have babies then die, vaginas are evil, women aren't worth a shit, all women should be raped, women should be beaten 24/7, women should die a painful death due to female related cancers, monkeys should have more rights than women, women are worthless egg donors, women are sex slaves, dogs would make better wives than women, we should mutilate the genitals of women, etc.
That was women-bashing and that was just EVIL. That was REAL misogyny dripping with evil. I deplore that kind of shit. I would NEVER tolerate anyone who said any of those kinds of things to me. I would be forced to beat the shit out of them for saying those kinds of things.
As I've already said, I do NOT believe in those things nor will I ever use those kinds of phrases in my arguments because I do NOT believe in bigotry.
And for the last goddamn time, I DO *NOT* HATE MY GENDER, I *HATE* FEMINISTS LIKE *YOU* WHO HAVE BRAINWASHED MY GENDER WITH BIGOTRY, AND I WANT TO LIBERATE MY GENDER FROM THE FEMINIST REICH THAT HAS ENSLAVED THEIR MINDS WITH MISANDRY!!!!
I love my vagina by the way. I happen to take very good care of it.
You feminazis can't take ANY kind of criticism, so that's why you censor it. And dance around the argument like you're doing with this "you hate your gender and bad mouth women," bullshit.
We have rational debates here. NOT school-yard crybaby festivals.
Cry me a fucking river you bigot-gender-feminist-bitch-troll.
Or better yet, go bitch and moan with sexist-bigots like you at the following message boards:
Ms. Magazine
Bitch Magazine (that's really the name of the magazine, they actually named it that)
XX (feminist blogger site)
Feminista
Feministe
Venus Zine
The Goddess
Sappho Speaks
There you will find your fellow misandrists who LOVE to cry about being "put down" and censor those who have any logical critiques in regards to the Feminist Idiot-ology you SO love.
And just because you sign your damn posts don't mean a fucking thing.
If you have any doubts about me, feel free to go on a road trip to Muncie Indiana and then go to Ball State University, LaFollette Dormitory, Brayton Hall, sixth floor. Go to the room that has a lot of anti-Women Studies, anti-Feminist, anti-GWBush, pro-Kerry print-outs on the door.
There you'll find a happy anti-feminist waiting for a REAL debate opponent. Since with you all I have is an immature crybaby who won't make any logical arguments.
Cry me a river bigot.
I would like to thank those have supported me on this site and know that I don't have any of these "self-hate" issues that this dumbass crybaby Phaedra-troll is spouting.
And by the way Phaedra-"she who whimpers like an infant a lot," I have PLENTY of bad things to say about G.W.Bush. That's a man by the way, a very stupid man who shouldn't be president in my opinion. I had better chances of getting into Yale than him.
By the way dipshit, why aren't you directed your objections to me? I'm the one you have a problem with why are you running around crying to everybody else?
Fucking coward, like all of you gender-feminists are, because you're weak.
Weak, weak, weak!!!
I'm right here, waiting for you.....
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 12:24 PM September 26th, 2004 EST (#27)
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A monkey...?
*grin*
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!
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by Anonymous User on 02:47 PM September 26th, 2004 EST (#28)
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When did I say anything about a monkey???
Phaedra
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by Anonymous User on 02:51 PM September 26th, 2004 EST (#29)
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YOU'RE a monkey, Pheadra. YOU'RE a monkey.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:00 PM September 26th, 2004 EST (#30)
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Now that's just immature.
Phaedra
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Phaedra being a coward again by not responding to me.
COWARD!!! COWARD!!! COWARD!!! COWARD!!!
Feminist NEVER argue or accept common-sense criticism in an educated manner. They always dance around the argument, they're too scared to face a REAL opponent.
They're just like politicians, they NEVER answer a question or debate in an ADULT manner!!!
Logic is the very enemy of Feminists. If everybody thought logically, feminism (and it's supporters like dumbass Phaedra) would be dead.
She still isn't trying to have a rational debate with me. She's still running around crying "bashing."
What an infant, too frightened to act like an adult and talk to her opponent.
Your debate Phaedra is here with your's truly NOT Thundercloud.
Do you not know how to debate because your feminist teachers tell you that debating rationally is anti-feminist?
Or are you just too weak to debate against someone who can see through your lies and whining?
This is getting real tiresome Phaedra. Grow up and let's debate and not act like a gender feminist using her victimology bullshit.
You're a waste of posting space Phaedra.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 03:10 PM September 26th, 2004 EST (#32)
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>"Now that's just immature."
True, but It felt good to say it.
(Fun too)
I was refering to what Thea was saying about "Monkeys should have more rights than women". (She was being sarcastic, just in case you didn't know and wanted to critisize her for saying that, too.)
I'm tired of playing with you, now Pheadra, so It's not likely I'll ansewer anymore of your posts. That is, unless you actually have something intelegent to contribute. Otherwise, flake off, huh? I have more important things to do.
like clipping my toe nails, or something.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:16 PM September 26th, 2004 EST (#33)
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>"Your debate Phaedra is here with yours truely NOT Thundercloud."
That's okay, Thea.
I've actually enjoyed teaseing her!
*big grin*
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Thea!!! Good heavens girl you rant like me!!! Take a deep breath..be one with nature...give your brain a little oxygen in order to think out a strategy for undermining the funding sources for these shit maggots...and please Thea...may I have the honour of adopting you as my daughter and doughting on you. My real daughter is 29 and just finishing up her first maternity leave...there may be some sibling rivalry but that can be worked out. It is such as you who will ultimately put things back in order...right minded women...not aggrieved men. Now that you have had a moment to let the moisture return to your dry mouth...GO AHEAD AND SPIT SOME MORE BILE AND VENOM AT THIS WILLFULLY IGNORANT, MILITANTLY MINDLESS, VOLUNTARILY AUTISTIC TROLL!!!HEHEHEHE!!!
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Well MAUS, I've already been adopted. I was adopted when I was six months old. Never met my biological parents and not really interested in finding them. But wow, I'm really honored, but I am nineteen. Still sounds cool.
But I don't think I'll get along with your new infant grandchild because to be honest I hate kids. That's why I'm going to sell my eggs because I can get enough money to pay for Law School.
I don't want kids. Simple as that. I love my nephews, neices, and little cousins but they can be real obnoxious, spoiled, and disrespectful bastards some times and the parents don't punish them for their misbehavior. They just encourage it and say how "cute" it is.
Irresponsible assholes.
Kids these days are disrespectful, willful, insolent, and are just plain bastards. And parents especially soccer moms encourage this behavior and expect everyone around them to bend over backwards for them and their bastard kids.
Not everyone is meant to procreate after all. I'm going to be childless by choice. There are more than six billion people in the world after all and we can't even feed them and keep them safe from third-world war lords (i.e. Africa).
But still, congrats for having a grandchild. I know it's a very exciting and wonderful time for you. Good for you, have fun with it!(NO sarcasm there)
I hope I didn't offend you. And I hope your grandchild won't turn out to be like my nieces and nephews because God help you if it does.
*Ms.Thea the Pre-Law Major, Pro-Gender Egalitarian, and Pro-Reproductive Rights Activist*
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by Anonymous User on 03:32 PM September 27th, 2004 EST (#37)
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Well, it looks like Pheadra the troll has left the building. GOOD!
She probably went out in search of blood.
Or maybe the sun's rays hit her and she turned to stone.
I understand that is supposed to happen with Trolls.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Slow down!!! I was not suggesting motherhood or anything like that.
It was just that when you were sounding off at feminists you sounded so much like me and I have no recollection of being in that part of the world twenty years ago but........ahem.......really what I was meaning to say was it would have felt so good to have been able to say:
"(sigh) that's my princess who cropped the ears and tail off of that feminazi doberperson bitch with her vitrioic invective and made that pathetic stub of a tail twitch over the newly exposed asshole in a quest for cringing between those rapidly retreating legs that....(sniff) (choke)...I'm just so damned proud of her...(sniff)...she's just such a chip off the old block....(sniff)...sorry guys I'm just such a sensitive, sentimental soft shit at times like this.....hehhehehehheh!!!!!
All of that having been said, dear Thea, may I state with loving compassion and from experience, I experienced not having offspring for a decade and more longer than you have been alive. I have now had the experience of embraseing my children and my grandchildren for about as long as you have been alive. If it were not for that, I would have taken up a firearm and sucked the pipe a long time ago.
It is NOT for ourselves that we live. When during all of the Dark Ages of the Patriarchical oppression was a man's right to choose the be-all-and-end-all of legal,moral, and ethical consideration?
Children need to be loved. Men need to be needed. By far the cruelest thing that feminism would inflict on us is disposability and redundancy.
If you are determined to be a Doctor of the Law...please speak for us...and please reconsider my offer to adopt you as my daughter. If you were in arm's reach I would give you the biggest hug.
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I take it Phaedra means 'sex' rather than 'gender', but no matter.
George Orwell said something like 'What the Catholic and the Communist have in common is that neither of them can admit that an opponent can be both honest and intelligent'. If he were alive today he could include the feminist.
As another respondent said, if I criticise Nazis, it is not the same as criticising Germans (or white people). Similarly, if I criticise Communists, it is not the same as criticising Russians (or working class people).
This is known in Philosohpy as the 'False Dichotomy'. Giving people the false impression that they only have 2 options, when in fact they have more.
There are only 2 kinds of people in the world, feminists and misogynists.
If you're not for us, then you're against us.
If you're not part of the solution, then you must be part of the problem.
This is one of the oldest, simplest pieces of manipulation in the book.
It's about artificially and dishonestly polarising the debate in order to coerce the gullible into supporting your cause when they otherwise would not.
Let me explain something to you Phaedra: Criticising feminism is not the same as criticising women because a woman is not the same as a feminist.
A woman is an adult female human, whereas a feminist is someone who holds certain kinds of beliefs. A woman is defined biologically, whereas a feminist is defined ideologically. The two things are not the same, and so you are either ignorant or dishonest, or both.
Don't get mad. Get organised.
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Notice that feminists never really put up rational arguments in their own defence. I see this time and time again. The only thing they know is emotional manipulation. If you argue with us, you should feel guilty.
Don't get mad. Get organised.
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by Anonymous User on 01:00 PM September 28th, 2004 EST (#42)
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Well, I argued with her and don't feel even the LEAST bit of guilt.
In fact I had FUN!
I don't know if I'd bother trying to have a rational discussion with Pheadra. Logic is lost on that sort of mind.
Several times Thea invited Pheadra to a logical and equal debate. Not once did Pheadra exept the invitation. She seemed more interested in bugging ME, for some reason.
Oh well, the mind of a femi-troll, go figure.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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According to gender feminists stanzas of how immature and inept males are, then the Law (if the feminists really believe males are that incapable rational/logical thought-which is hateful bullshit)would have to excuse Men from being prosecuted. Instead it would be the WOMAN who is put on trial, because SHE is the mentally mature one.
Thea, that's an excellent point. I'd never noticed that before.
Don't get mad. Get organised.
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by Anonymous User on 01:04 PM September 28th, 2004 EST (#43)
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It's that sort of rational reasoning that Pheadra is afraid of.
That's why she wouldn't take Thea up on her invitation to debate these matters. Like I said she seemed more interested in argueing with me.
Maybe she likes me.
You don't have a crush on ol' Thundercloud, do ya Pheadra?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 11:28 AM September 25th, 2004 EST (#4)
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There is a comment section below, and I see people blasting alway.
I also see in the comments the 'this is too stupid' to be a real arguement, it must be a joke. IT IS NO JOKE. A 10 page diatribe is not a joke, and if any femanazi claims that her position is just 'a joke' then make an equally offensive joke about woman and ask if its funny.
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by Anonymous User on 09:24 PM September 25th, 2004 EST (#15)
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Ideas like these are really sad. Women should be angry about this type of ideas because of what is implied in these arguments. Women are childern and unable to take care of themselves there for a big strong man/government needs to step in. We all know that women are equally able to buy condoms, or if there are none to be had, to refuse to have sex. These ideas are dangerous to both men and women.
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I tend to agree with this assesment except for one thing. The woman should be the one liable for criminal sexual assualt if no birth control is used on a first time encounter. Ultimately biological destiny means the man has the most to lose should the woman get pregnant and chose to have the child.
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