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Maleness or Extinction? (Israel)
posted by Adam on 09:41 AM August 27th, 2004
Masculinity Jacob Kandlaker writes "In Israel, beating feminism is a prerequisite for standing up to the external enemy. Maleness or Extinction by Gil Ronen Militant Israeli feminists have determined the national agenda since the early 1990s, mocking all things male and and criminalizing normal masculine behavior. If we wish to regain our fighting spirit and discover new leaders in our midst, we must first restore dignity to Israel's men."

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Yep, Israel's worse (Score:1)
by Hunchback on 04:52 PM August 27th, 2004 EST (#1)
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I stand by my prior statement: Israeli feminazism has the American version beaten hands down.

Combine the matriarchy with poisonous feminism and you get an unimagined dystopia.
Re:Yep, Israel's worse - NOT! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:24 PM August 27th, 2004 EST (#2)
The 1990s - the age of Oslo - were the golden era of Israeli feminism: Shelly Yekhimovich, a petite, self-proclaimed radical socialist-feminist, began anchoring Israel Radio's all-morning news and talk show in 1992 and rapidly became the most feared and influential media personality in Israel.....

ex-General Yitzhak Mordechai, whose stellar political career was cut short by a sexual harassment trial). Some of the charges were apparently true, some were trumped up and patently false, but all were destructive to the accused men's careers.....

law after draconian law depriving men of their rights in marriage and divorce, caging healthy male aggressiveness and criminalizing normal male sexual behavior....

the talking with the hands, the friendly slapping-across-the-shoulders (the 'chapkha') - have been classified as a form of 'violence'. ...

10,000 and 15,000 Israeli men are prosecuted for trumped-up domestic violence charges every year.....

Inbal Rabinovich, recently said publicly that "in 99% of the cases" involving suspected sexual offenses, judges prefer the female complainants' testimony over the defendants', and that sentencing in these cases can now reach "15 or even 28 years, more than the punishment for manslaughter...."

Hunchback is either a newbie, uninformed, or just plain out-of-his friggin mind. No offence. This is the same exact pattern of what is taking place in America. The steps are always the same. They are:

1) Marxist-Feminist embrace socialist totalitarian ideology and obtain a position of influence.
2) False statistics, propaganda, and lies that inform the public that males are evil circulate on authoritative forums.
3) The false arrest, allegations, charges, and imprisonment of males sweeps the country.
4) Men that are masculine find themselves in jail.
5) Innocent behavior like touching a women to demonstrate intimate interest become sexual assualt and innocent males go to jail on terms that are longer than manslaughter.
6) Marriage laws are attacked.
7) Abortions are made a legal form of birth control.
8) Women are awarded exclusive control over the children.
9) Child protection branches of the government spring-up to jail males and take away their rights.
10) Men that fight back find themselves harassed by a Gestapo like police force, and yes I have witnessed this Gestapo in America.
11) Men are defacto judged guilty of ANY charges a female alleges and will be prosecuted. The is very little opportunity to prove innocence. The ideal of “innocent until proven guilty” is defeated.

The only thing that is different is that due to Israel’s small size, the intensity of the assault against everything male is much more obvious. In America, the shear magnitude and scale is by many times worse. That is why we have the highest criminalization rate of males in the world. In the next ten years, Israel’s attack on males will seem trivial compared to the coming attack in America. Worse yet, the shear magnetite is so formidable, the finances so great, the momentum so intense, that it will take fifty years before we can stop the inertia of the attack if every male gets on board and starts to help.

Warble

Re:Yep, Israel's worse - NOT! (Score:1)
by Hunchback on 09:22 PM August 27th, 2004 EST (#4)
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Dear Warble,
I am neither a newbie, uninformed, nor "out of my friggin' mind." Having read the articles on Israel over the past week, I stand by my statement. While American feminism is the source of this poison internationally, is larger and better funded than anywhere in the world, and definitely will be harder to defeat, the sheer intensity of the assault in Israel--to use your own words--is greater. For instance, one poster wrote that in the Israeli military a male soldier can be charged with sexual harassment for standing closer than 3 feet to a female soldier. We have nothing that bad.

I don't doubt that you're a warrior, but as such learn to curb your emotions. No offence.
Re:Yep, Israel's worse - NOT! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:06 AM August 28th, 2004 EST (#5)
Citing the expert, Daphne Patai, sexual harassment is far worse in Israel than the U.S., and that's not saying it's not very bad in the U.S.

Things are bad all over, and the big Bejin conference with Hilary a few years back under the Clinton Administration shows how radical feminism is infesting all the world. If it were all about equal rights, I'd say great, but it isn't. It's all about femi-supremacy.

We can expect to see a continued world wide assault on men's basic rights as human beings. There is no denying we all have it real bad, and need to unite. I joined a group against domestic violence in Colorado, when I could find nothing in CA. I stll try to join and belong to as many organizations as I can to fight the terrible evil of radical/gender feminism.

I hope someone starts a web site in Israel and starts documenting all this stuff on it. We men are beat up, underempowered and robbed financially by evil radical feminism, but "people" still need to do what they can everyday to confront the cancer of radial/gender feminism.

Ray

click Human Rights Atrocities

Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item. All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:08 PM August 28th, 2004 EST (#6)
That's right women are taking over and there's not a damned thing you guys can do about it. so sit back and start likein' it.
I can't wait untill we have male slave auctions!
Go Grrrrl power!
Re:You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:09 PM August 28th, 2004 EST (#7)
Oh, and believe me we WILL have male slave auctions!
Re:You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 03:29 PM August 28th, 2004 EST (#8)
I will believe you if you tell me your name. It's so hard to put faith in anonymous users!
Re:You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:49 AM August 29th, 2004 EST (#16)
Just call me Pheadra.
I'll be one of your slave keepers.

Pheadra
Re:You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:1)
by Peter on 01:58 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#19)
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Well I'm glad I have been working out and keeping in great shape. Also very strong and in excellent health so I should bring a good price a the upcoming male slave auctions. Just hope I go to real pretty owner.

          Pete in Nebraska
Re:You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:44 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#22)
Does that mean you hang yourself in the end?

See here.
Re:You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:15 PM August 28th, 2004 EST (#10)
"That's right women are taking over and there's not a damned thing you guys can do about it. so sit back and start likein' it."

What you are saying already has some very real basis in reality. Freedom of speech (Academic Freedom) on many college campuses has already been so restricted on college campuses that "anti-feminist intellectual harrassment" is one of the latest things radical feminist are trying to push onto society through women's studies programs in schools. What's "anti-feminist intellectual harassment?" In a nutsheel it's anything you say that critically challenges the feminist agenda, and it is already in place on some college campuses. Amherst in Mass. is one of the places where I believe this was spawned. It's basically the next step in the sexual harassment industries agenda.

It's still o.k. to be critical of men, because feminist propaganda teaches that they are the oppresor. Women's studies classes routinely teach students to "CHALLENGE PATRIARCHAL PREJUDICES," but on any school campus you should never wear this shirt. Freedom of speech is still permitted in public places, but how much longer is anyone's guess. The radical feminist hate movement marches on, "marches on the backs of men," that is.

...and what is the reaction of some "feminists" to men who challenge the prejudices of the women's studies programs on college campuses? To answer that question please go to this MS. board and eavesdrop.

Ray

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We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:1)
by canaryguy (nospam.canaryguy@nospam.stealthfool.com) on 01:18 AM August 29th, 2004 EST (#12)
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Anonymous Cowardly Feminazi Troll writes:
That's right women are taking over and there's not a damned thing you guys can do about it. so sit back and start likein' it.
I can't wait untill we have male slave auctions!
Go Grrrrl power!


BORING!

What you don't realize is that Men know they're under siege and are acting accordingly. We know the evil you feminazis have done and are continuing to do. Male slave auctions? Sounds a lot easier and more humane than marriage is today!

We are pushing back. Look at the defeat of California SB730. Not a darned thing we can do about it? See you next year feminazi. I look forward to helping defeat next year's atrocities.

Back to the siege analogy. How do you expect to break the siege? The worse you get, the harder your ultimate goals are to achieve. You need overwhelming force to break a siege, overwhelming force you will not be able to muster.
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:03 AM August 29th, 2004 EST (#14)
Men are wakening. Once men awake, women don't stand a chance.

A Bush win in November will mark the end of femmunism.
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:06 AM August 29th, 2004 EST (#15)
Break the velvet pincers!!! Break the pink shackles!!! Free men!!!
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:55 AM August 29th, 2004 EST (#17)
Hey, fem-troll.
Get some new matirial, will ya?
We've all heard those tired threats. I know we are supposed to reel in horror at your words, but right now all most of us can do is YAWN.
Oh, and thank you for showing the true colors of the modern feminist movement.
"Male slave auctions"? Oh yeah, you fembots are for equality. (sarcasm, in case you're too stupid to realize it) (and obviously you are)

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:07 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#20)
And you're too stupid to know when you're beaten.

Pheadra
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:22 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#21)
Hey, YOU'RE the one advocating slavery of other human beings. An act roundly condemed by any civilized and feeling society.
Yeah, right, I'M stupid.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:50 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#23)
You condesending, sexist bastard!!!
Go to Hell!

Pheadra
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:1)
by canaryguy (nospam.canaryguy@nospam.stealthfool.com) on 03:34 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#24)
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You condesending, sexist bastard!!!
Go to Hell!

Pheadra


LOL! A sexist scum calling other people sexist? Pot. Kettle. Black.

You feminazis are so cute when you lose your cool!
Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 05:42 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#25)
"And you're too stupid to know when you're beaten."

It's not stupidity, it's defiance to the bitter end. Get used to it. That's how many wars have been won. The radical/gender feminist agenda is oppressive, so evil, and so destructive, that men, and many women and children have nothing left to lose. Understandably, they are starting to take control of their lives by saying, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore." I can however, certainly understand the radical/gender feminist backlash, when the evil lies of the radical/gender feminists start to get aired out in open public places for all the world to see. The stink fills the air and reaches to high heaven.

Sincerely, Ray

Here’s a shirt (below) that’ll make you the center of attraction at any radical/gender feminist party you might want to attend in the future. It should be quite an educational experience for those obtuse dullards who've received most of their education from misandic women's studies programs.

Click Surprise

Re:We're not beaten until you break the siege! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:06 PM August 30th, 2004 EST (#28)
Not only tha, but when they loose their cool, (which is freaquently) they expose themselve for the hypocrits that they are.
She claims she can't wait to see "male slave auctions", then calls ME a sexist.
How typical.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Beaten? We've not yet begun to challenge! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:25 PM August 29th, 2004 EST (#26)
"That's right women are taking over and there's not a damned thing you guys can do about it."

We have not yet begun to challenge!

Ray

click women's studies

Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item, except feminists. All the info I'm trying to convey is as the page initially comes up.
Re:You're beaten. get used to it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:23 AM August 30th, 2004 EST (#27)
"That's right women are taking over"
      False. Women HAVE taken over.
 
"there's not a damned thing you guys can do about it"
                    False. Men CAN extirpate feminaziism if and when they choose to. I think it would take about one week. The problem is that they are currently not choosing to do so. This is due to apathy towards, and denial of, the wretchedness of their condition. However, this attitude is not going to pertain indefinitely. When will men decide to become first class citizens? That, nobody knows. But I know that every moment that passes is one moment closer to that day. So enjoy the feminazi tyranny while it lasts. Our day is coming.
Hotspur
Why blame men for war or violence??? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:44 PM August 27th, 2004 EST (#3)
I'm not sure how many Jewish women are in the feminist movement in Los Angeles or New York, but it appears that they are at least present in numbers apporximating (or greater) than their numbers in society at large. No doubt they would be prime conduits for exporting feminism to Israel.

I never cease to be amazed at how far reaching the canerous tentacles of radical feminism have reached in this world. There is a great book called "Professing Feminism," by Daphne Patai that does a really good job of showing colleges and universities as the spawning grounds of feminism, through the indoctrination and internship of students who then go out into society spreading the plague. All this is paid for by taxpayer's dollars.

It strikes me that feminism would be extremely dangerous if it were allowed to infest Israel as Isreal is so besieged on every side by hostility and violence. Feminists love to point to men and say, men are the source of violence, and blame maleness for those problems, but I say bull, send all females to fight all the wars and let men sit at home on the porch in their rocking chairs and take a break.

Sincerely, Ray

This image is over 100 years old, and that is one of the Macabean princes spearing the elephant. Those are Greeks in the basket on the elephants back. I suspect you know that history better than I.

Click War is Just Another Excuse for...

Click Why blame only men

I wore this one to a protest, and a feminist came up to me and said, "I don't agree with your saying and would like to talk to you about it."

You see feminism believes that gender roles are constructed by society, until it comes to violence then they believe that it's just in men's genes. That's contradictory, but no one ever calls them on it. Well, I call them, and it really ticks them off. They usually say they disagree, but offer no proof to which I reply. You have no proof and try to convince me of your right, based on nothing more than your feminst prejudice. You'd love their reactions to that one. Best regards to the men's movement of Israel.

Here's another web site with good info, books, etc.

Click NCFMLA

Click on the link to NCFM on the home page to see the parent orgnaization

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Re:Why blame men for war or violence??? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:01 AM August 29th, 2004 EST (#13)
You forget that the Marx, Engels and Lenin of modern femmunism were Jewish: Friedan, Steinem and Abzug.

Gil Ronen
Re:Why blame men for war or violence??? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:58 AM August 29th, 2004 EST (#18)
"ABZUG".
That's the sound I made once when I was chokeing on a fish bone.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Speaking for wolf (Score:1)
by mcc99 on 06:05 PM August 28th, 2004 EST (#9)
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Well, the author of this article sure is "speaking for wolf"-- ie, saying what needs to be said regardless of what else may happen.

The only thing I would suggest is that his tendency to cast Israeli men as the protector class of women and children does men and women both a disservice. What ought to be happening is, as he suggests, restoring men's rights and rolling back the many years of anti-man jurisprudence and misandry that has infected Israeli law and society (and other places as well - America, Canada, etc., too!). But what shouldn't happen is that only men be burdenened with obligations of defense. As long as Israeli women have the same basic rights as Israeli men (vote, etc.) they should be just as obligated to make war in defense of Israel as any Israeli man.
Re:Speaking for wolf (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:44 PM August 28th, 2004 EST (#11)
AMEN.
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