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Cnet article says men hog remotes
posted by Hombre on 06:53 PM July 11th, 2004
News LeMorteMark writes "According to this article at cnet.com, 35 percent of men want to add a second television to the house and 46 percent of women want to add a second television. The author of the article makes the assumption that these statistics mean that men are "hogging the remote". He doesn't even entertain the possibility that men don't want a second television because they're simply too busy working to watch it. I like this snotty little statement here: "In short, a lot of married women apparently aren't getting to watch the regularly scheduled programs they like." I guess now we're all guilty of television abuse. Here's a link to the article."

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Assumed Cause fallacy, causation vs correlation (Score:2)
by HombreVIII on 07:23 PM July 11th, 2004 EST (#1)
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So let's see, out of the 35% of married couples that want to buy another television, a whopping 11% more are cases where the wife wants it when the husband doesn't than vice versa, and in 19% of those cases both want another one. Ohhhh what a telling statistic.

First off, whenever you take studies on groups as large as women and men, sample size comes into question. Whenever the results are rather close, as in this case, the sample size must be very large to minimize the possibility of getting different results by picked different people to survey. I assume that there was probably not a very large sample size in this case, especially of the subsut, (married couples who disagree about buying a new television), in which the disparity exists. Since we don't have access to the data to analyze it, I'll just treat it as though the sample size was large enough anyway and highlight the other flaws.

So, from the standpoint that the sample size is large enough and the data is valid, let's look at some possible reasons for the disparity. Women like TV more than men. Women are slightly more interested in watching TV in the bedroom as well as the living room while men are slightly more likely to be fine with just living room watching. Maybe husbands are more likely to be conservative with money than their wives and view the TV as a wasted expense. Maybe men want to watch 30 minutes of TV a night and their wives who control the TV the rest of the time want another one for that 30 minute timeslot. Perhaps men are controlled by aliens who have subliminally suggested anti-television messages to us all our lives. All of these explanations can be said to be supported by this data. In short, we don't know the cause for this disparity and the data does not tell us! All it shows is a very slight correlation specifically in those cases where the spouses disagree between being a wife and having a greater desire to get another TV than being a husband with the greater desire. Once again a feminidiot uses it as authoritative proof of what they assume is the cause for the disparity, and what a surprise that his assumption is built around the idea of evil men and controlled women.

To show causation, more data needs to be collected, such as specifically why these people want or do not want more TVs, how much television they each watch, how do they resolve disagreements about which show to see, etc. Only after getting all of the necessary data can we discover which of all the possible causes is the correct one.
Status Symbols (Score:1)
by The_Beedle on 01:13 PM July 12th, 2004 EST (#2)
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One could just as easily read the results of this survey and conclude that women lead men in their desire to add unecessary status symbols to their homes.

I'd be willing to bet that almost any survey of married people would show that the spouse who earns least is more willing to spend money on luxuries than the primary bread-winner.
Re:Status Symbols (Score:1)
by The_Beedle on 01:16 PM July 12th, 2004 EST (#3)
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Having just re-read the article, the reasoning could be even simpler.

Twice as many women as not say they want to put the new TV in another room of the house rather than replacing their current television. Furthermore, 47 percent of married women say they want this additional TV in order to watch regularly broadcast programs. Only 36 percent of married men say the same.

How about '11% of women are less willing to state that they want to put an additional television in the bedroom to watch adult videos in private'?
Why we hog the remote. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:47 PM July 13th, 2004 EST (#4)
It's simple.

Men want to watch good, useful programming like Monster Garage, pro wrestling, the NFL and shows involving tools and carpentry.

Women want to watch boring, pointless fluff like soap operas, teary-jerky dramas and shows involving paint and decorative lace.

WE HOG THE REMOTE AS A SERVICE TO HUMANKIND.

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