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Mother Orders Savage Beating To "Defend Family Honour"
posted by Adam on 05:39 PM July 4th, 2004
News Benjamin Adam Studtmann writes "I found a more detailed description of the savage all-girl beating that took place because someone kissed a boy on the cheek at a family birthday party. The story gets even better -- the beating was ordered by the matriarch of the clan. Even more amazing is that two out of the six females involved in this gang-bash were very much adults! To put it right over the top of surreal, the principal of the girls' school said, 'But for a lot of girls, it's all about respect, defending your turf, fighting for your man.' An adult-encouraged savage group beating is a form of respect? Another person's birthday party is 'your turf'? Fighting for 'your' 'man'? Since when is a male, of whatever age, an object or possession? Since when is a 13-year-old boy a 'man'? And what the hell kind of principal would say that? Can you guess the gender of the quoted principal?"

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Absolutely amazing (Score:1)
by LSBeene on 04:17 AM July 5th, 2004 EST (#1)
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And since there was no MAN around to blame, it was "about defending your honor and your turf".

Riiiiiight.

Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
double standard (Score:1)
by kavius on 09:39 AM July 5th, 2004 EST (#2)
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Isn't a lot of feminism about not considering woman objects of possession?
Re: Girls' Aggression is about Relationship Power (Score:2)
by Roy on 11:00 AM July 5th, 2004 EST (#3)
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Behind this story is the way that girls commonly wage war against each other for the power that comes from relationships.

In these adolescent girls' friendship wars, the boys are in fact mere pawns and tokens (like poker chips) in the larger conflict, which is about establishing dominance in a social group of girls.

(From the article) -- "Lauren Abramson, director of the Community Conferencing Center, a Baltimore agency that resolves disputes through mediation, said one difference between boys and girls is that gossip is more likely to be at the bottom of a dispute between girls.

"Gossip as a source of violence is understudied and little understood," Abramson said. "But time and again, when we bring the parties together, get them to talk and dig into what started it all, it invariably comes back to something somebody heard somebody else said." "

(From Rachel Simmons' Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls) -- "Indeed, popularity itself is largely defined by the ability of one girl to turn her friends against someone else. If isolation is trauma for girls, there is power to be found in relationships. Having girls on her side offers a girl a sense of personal strength.

'It makes you feel more popular and like you have more power. You're in the right ... 'It gives you a feeling of security. If you know people are gathering on your side, you think, wow, I'm powerful. I have a feeling of power.'

So ingrained is alliance building in girls' lives that many I spoke with struggled to imagine life without it. 'You don't do it on purpose... It's your natural instinct. I tell other people and try to make myself look good.' "

Because of this relationship "combat training" that all adolescent girls practice, they have an entire arsenal of emotional and psychological weapons and tactics to adapt later on for the purpose of controlling MEN!

Guys are at a serious disadvantage in this arena, because so much of the female "way of war" is utterly foreign and even repulsive to men, who are brought up to respect codes of honor and loyalty. (Often through team sports.)

Honor and loyalty are the first things girls toss out the window in their friendship wars.

And because all their values are situational and contingent... having to do with what's immediately necessary... not what's RIGHT...

Well, there's one possible insight into the deceitful Machiavellian genius of FEMINISM!


"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." - Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
Re:double standard (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:36 PM July 5th, 2004 EST (#4)
Yep.
And, indeed, we do have a double standard, here.
If you'll notice, a man CAN NOT refer to his wife or girlfreind as "My woman". That is considered possesive and sexist.
However I can't count the number of times I hear women call their husbands or boyfriends "My man".
Watch ANY talk show, for instance. The term "My man" is used to the point of insanity.

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Key sentence (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:18 PM July 5th, 2004 EST (#5)
"Today, there is a dearth of effective female role models as the mothers who used to be there are forced back into the job market or get rendered ineffective through abuse of drugs and alcohol."

I'm surprised he wasn't flamed back to the Pleisoscene era for that one.

Re:Key sentence (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:36 PM July 5th, 2004 EST (#6)

Matt Rosenberg has a blog entry about the incident. Near the end he mentions how an article talks about a lack of female role models. Rosenberg mentions the "need for fathers to be there" but says that "Instead, we excuse absent dads."


Re: Key sentence... more victimology language (Score:2)
by Roy on 06:04 PM July 5th, 2004 EST (#7)
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(From the article--- comments in parentheses ( ) are my own...)

"Today, there is a dearth of effective (as in mature, rational, non-self absorbed) female role models as the mothers (remember that antiquated term?) who used to be there (back when getting and staying married was not politically incorrect) are forced back (as in having to seek their first paying job that doesn't involve extorting child support) into the job market or get rendered ineffective (as in choose to be crack addicts)through abuse of drugs and alcohol."

Man, is this the limits of academic bullshit alibi nonsense, or did I miss something?


"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." - Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
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