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Talking toilet orders men to sit down
posted by Adam on 10:56 AM May 23rd, 2004
Masculinity Philalethes writes "'A German inventor who developed a gadget that berates men if they try to use the toilet standing up has sold more than 1.6 million devices.' Came across this link in the weblog of Claire Wolfe, who remarks that '...this whole business of trying to get men to sit to pee has a lot more to do with feminism gone amuck than with keeping a ty-de-bowl,' and also links a great Walter Williams article I remember from a couple years back. *Sigh.* More and more I find myself feeling relieved that at age 60 I probably won't live long enough to see the worst of it."

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If you sprinkle when you tinkle ... (Score:2)
by mens_issues on 06:49 PM May 23rd, 2004 EST (#1)
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Urinating while standing up need not be messy if you're careful. And sitting down for women doesn't necessarily mean the act is more hygienic. I've heard of a sign in the women's bathroom that says "If you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie - wipe the seatie." (No, I didn't go in there, I read it somewhere!).

Steve

Re:If you sprinkle when you tinkle ... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:34 PM May 24th, 2004 EST (#7)
I read a Dave Barry joke recently that said to women: "If you go to the bathroom and, because you are so dainty, choose to NOT sit on the toilet, but rather hover over it like a flying saucer from Planet Weewee, do not just leave it as if nobody is ever going to use that toilet again."
Re:If you sprinkle when you tinkle ... (Score:1)
by NoLoveLost on 07:37 AM May 25th, 2004 EST (#9)
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          Maybe what we need to do is market a similar
device that says "Hey! Put the damned seat up will you? Others have to use this bathroom too"
Then we could put both devices in the toilet and let them fight it out while we guys just go and urinate in the woods.

Do the stomp (Score:1)
by Doctor Damage (scottg [fivefoursixseven] at yahoo dot com dot au) on 02:24 AM May 24th, 2004 EST (#2)
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If someone installed something such as this where I live, they would be the proud owner of a pile of shattered shards before the end of the following day.
"A Woman’s Guide on How to Pee Standing Up" (Score:2)
by Philalethes on 06:55 AM May 24th, 2004 EST (#3)
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A later weblog entry links to "A Woman’s Guide on How to Pee Standing Up," which further links to "TravelMate Personal Hygiene Solutions." As Claire notes, there are legitimate needs, such as "while hiking in the backcountry or when facing a less-than-savory toilet seat in a very public restroom." I remember a similar device reviewed in the Whole Earth Catalog when I worked there in the 1970s. Here as elsewhere, I have no argument with women seeking strategies to overcome biologically-based disadvantages -- only with the apparently near-universal female conviction that only women bear such disadvantages, and that they are somehow all caused by some sort of male conspiracy. (Though I guess that's as good an argument as I've heard for God's sex being male -- surely if God were female, She'd never have made women sit down to urinate! Again, feminism contradicts herself.)

On a related note, you know how women are always complaining that men leave the toilet seat up? I don't, never have so far as I can recall; always close the cover as well. It's just always seemed the natural thing to do, like zipping up afterward. What's puzzled me is women who do, of course, leave the seat down -- but never close the cover. According to the Chinese art of feng shui, this is a very bad habit: an open toilet is a major energy drain.
Ahh the old toilet seat "issue" again (Score:2)
by CPM on 07:42 AM May 24th, 2004 EST (#4)
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You know, some day I'm going to write some kind of manifesto or something about this "issue" of the toilet seat.

If I encounter one of these in a public bathroom, I'll give it the respect that it deserves. Read: "Anything that talks to me from inside a toilet gets pissed on!" Why I may even piss all over the place. I would imagine I would be quite starled if I heard a strange voice during mid-stream. Being startled like that could cause me to go all over the place looking for the source of that voice.
Re:Ahh the old toilet seat "issue" again (Score:1)
by The_Beedle on 08:43 AM May 24th, 2004 EST (#5)
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Damn straight! What a hoot. I think if this device appeared in my house it would get a painted-on bullseye.


Re:Ahh the old toilet seat "issue" again (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:31 PM May 24th, 2004 EST (#6)
I would hit it with my Tomahawk...!
HARD!

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Sue for sexist and hostile environment (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:08 AM May 25th, 2004 EST (#8)
I take it this would be installed in unisex public bathrooms and not just in male public bathrooms.

If this were installed in a workplace, I think that it would be only a matter of time before some astute male sued the people responsible for its installation for creating a sexist and hostile environment against males.

If we consider that in America we have something called the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), where it is the law that employers must reasonably accommodate all kinds of human disabilities, often with extensive and expensive restroom remodels, then it seems absurd that someone would even try to suggest that such a naturally human condition as peeing standing up could/should not be accommodated. In America, women’s restrooms are routinely accommodated with more commodes then men’s restrooms.

Are these the beginings of the new Jim Crow laws (separate but equal) against men. Not really, in my opinion, just a further step in what has already begun. Put these in where people work and it is definitely law suit time for making the bathroom facilities sexist and hostile against men.

Ray

Re:Sue for sexist and hostile environment (Score:1)
by NoLoveLost on 08:52 AM May 25th, 2004 EST (#10)
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In America, women’s restrooms are routinely accommodated with more commodes then men’s restrooms.

          Do you ever get the feeling that the over-riding philosophy is

          Animals don't use toilets.
          Most men are animals.
          Only the remainder are housebroken.
          Therefore, Men's Rooms don't need that many toilets.

          Okay...so I'm in a rotten mood today. Weigh all commentary accordingly.

Re:Sue for sexist and hostile environment (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:21 PM May 25th, 2004 EST (#11)
Womens, restrooms also freaquently have chairs, a couch and scented candles and poppori.
Oh yeah, we live in a patriarchy, all right. (Sarcasam)

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
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