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An 11 year old girl arrested for filing a false rape
posted by Scott on 06:51 PM May 15th, 2004
False Accusations SuzMemphis sent us this article (registration required) and writes "In Memphis, TN an 11 year old girl accused a man of rape, but for once someone LISTENED to her story and found it to be false. Instead of allowing her to ruin an innocent person's life, she was arrested for the false accusation. Perhaps this is an indication that this horrible habit of believing all children without question will come to an end? We sure hope so! We did notice that folks are still making excuses for this appalling behavior, but as long as justice is served, that's ok with us. We don't want children hurt either."

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Kinda mixed on this one (Score:1)
by LSBeene on 10:19 PM May 15th, 2004 EST (#1)
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But ya gotta love this:

"If she did make it up, she had a reason. Something's wrong," said babysitter Dora Carter, picking up a first-grade girl.

Sure, her parents never told her that lying was wrong. THAT is what is "wrong" with her.

Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Are Registration Required Sites Really Necessary? (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 10:48 PM May 15th, 2004 EST (#2)
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Is this the only paper in the whole U.S. covering this story?

Can someone pull some details so we can search for a different source?

Thanks.

Dittohd

11 years old... (Score:1)
by mcc99 on 12:43 AM May 16th, 2004 EST (#3)
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... and already she has learned what she can do to a man on a whim.

Even if she were old enough to be prosecuted, I guarantee she wouldn't be. Such is the power of the female's word over the male's. Such is our subordination to women in the law and in common perception.

We got work to do. Hey, anyone else going to the Men's Right's Congress in June? See http://www.mensrights2004.com/ for the details.
Men's Right's Congress (Score:2)
by Luek on 02:55 AM May 16th, 2004 EST (#4)
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We got work to do. Hey, anyone else going to the Men's Right's Congress in June? See http://www.mensrights2004.com/ for the details.

Unfortunately, I can't go but I did PayPal them a $20 donation.

 

Re:Men's Right's Congress (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:57 PM May 16th, 2004 EST (#10)
Where is it being held?

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:11 years old... (Score:1)
by Peter on 06:07 PM May 16th, 2004 EST (#7)
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I have experienced this behavior(a females word is always more equal than a Mans) all my life starting from early childhood. My parents put me a private catholic school run entirely by nuns. No male teachers. Us boys learned early on that the girls were all tattle-tales. If a boy did something a girl did not approve of or otherwise thought was wrong, she went to "sister" and reported the boy. The boy was always wrong, no excuses and no questions asked and then punished in some fashion. Furthermore us boys were taught from the very beginning, Ladies First and always. If you were a boy you did not step in front of a girl, you were taught to step back and out of her path, when she passed you proceed. About at 5th grade I attended public school for a short time. All the female teachers were basically the same. I returned to the catholic school. All through high school the same pretty much. A females word was always superior over a boys but not as much tattle-tailing going on in high school. Boys and girls were more interested in dating now. However it was be a gentlemen and ladies first in high school. To this day I hold doors for women and never pass through an open door first if a female is headed towards it from the opposite direction unless she is at least 20 feet away. Pretty much like an instict.
Re:11 years old... (Score:1)
by Adam H (adam@mensactivism.org) on 08:43 PM May 16th, 2004 EST (#8)
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To this day I hold doors for women and never pass through an open door first if a female is headed towards it from the opposite direction unless she is at least 20 feet away. Pretty much like an instinct.

That has to stop. I hope you're making an effort to de-condition yourself.
Equality? Respect? (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 01:05 PM May 17th, 2004 EST (#12)
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>To this day I hold doors for women and never pass through an open door first if a female is headed towards it from the opposite direction unless she is at least 20 feet away. Pretty much like an instict.

If you ever feel guilty about stopping this practice completely, try walking up to a door directly behind a woman, maybe 2 - 3 feet behind, and allow her to go through first. Then see what she does. Does she politely continue to hold the door as you finish your approach to the door so you can grab it before it starts to close?

At least 999 out of 1000 times, she will continue out the door as though you never existed and the door will slam right into your face if you don't stop it.

>Us boys learned early on that the girls were all tattle-tales. If a boy did something a girl did not approve of or otherwise thought was wrong, she went to "sister" and reported the boy. The boy was always wrong, no excuses and no questions asked and then punished in some fashion.

Geez, sounds exactly like the situation in my house between me, my younger sister, and parents when I was growing up. My parents' excuse for always taking her side? I was older.

Dittohd

Re:11 years old... (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden @ yahoo.com) on 03:36 AM May 17th, 2004 EST (#11)
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I'm going. :)
Will she go in a sex offender data base? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 09:35 AM May 16th, 2004 EST (#5)
Well she go in a sex offender data base for the rest of her life as the falsely accused male would have if she had been a better liar? There is only a very thin line between a woman getting caught in her false accusations and a man getting the rest of his life ruined, yet the law does not treat false accusations with the seriousness that they deserve. Will this girl be prosecuted for a felony or a misdemeanor, or will she just get a slap on the wrist, and some therapy? Prison and punishment for male offenders, while social services and help for female offenders makes "equal justice" one of the biggest lies in existence for males living in feminazi america.

Ray

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Re:Will she go in a sex offender data base? (Score:1)
by this is not equality on 04:44 PM May 16th, 2004 EST (#6)
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Even though she tried to ruin a man's life and cost tax payer's, in my opinion, she will get off with probation and some "counseling"...along with some pats on the back b/c many will continue to see this 11 yr old criminal as the victim. Sad.

Jeff
"All human laws which contradict God's laws, we are bound in conscience to disobey." George Mason
.... the snot? (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden @ yahoo.com) on 11:28 PM May 16th, 2004 EST (#9)
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So we can do something about 11-year-olds but the hordes of fully adult women who pull these stunts we're powerless over?
I rather doubt anything other than some counseling is going happen to this girl. And probably from some idiot with the same "she wouldn't say it unless there was SOMETHING going" mentality.

Maybe it is because adult women can concoct better stories that we only manage to catch children. ??
Luna's got that right (Score:1)
by LSBeene on 12:52 AM May 18th, 2004 EST (#13)
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Luna said:

Maybe it is because adult women can concoct better stories that we only manage to catch children. ??

Totally true. But lets not forget something simple. Folks, people who lie, about whatever, tell their story, and are then "stuck" with that story.

A child's lie is more easily figured out. But an adults will be more convicing.

And don't forget, they get tons of practice from the "advocates" who "help" "polish" their story so it has all the buzz words that make it sound "better".

(funny, I didn't think the truth needed "help")

Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Here's an idea who's time has come (Score:1)
by LSBeene on 01:07 AM May 18th, 2004 EST (#14)
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I wrote this out on iFeminists while debating a male feminist. I think I finally articulated what I have been thinking. Tell me what you all think:

I've been struggling with how to articulate an idea that I think will initially be controversial, but if you think it through to "the end game scenario" will hold promise to helping rape and life-rape victims/survivors.

There has long been held a premise by rape advocates that prosecuting false accusers would lead to a "chilling effect" on real victims of rape. I disagree. I think in the long run it is the BEST solution to the problem of:
a) false allegations
b) restoring faith in allegations of rape

Now, before anyone's "auto gender response" kicks in, let me add a few thoughts. Then, hear me out, and smoke it over your cerebral bar-b-que.

For a few years now prosecutors have had more rapes reported, BUT thje conviction rates have been falling. Gender feminists and MRAs have offered differing views on this, but that's unimportant.

See, this is what I am good at, coming up with end-game-scenarios. Hear me out and let's walk through it.

Yes, initially some women may fear going through the legal process because now (in our scenario) a woman can be siginificantly prosecuted for false allegations. Some legitimate rapes will go unreported. But then the system starts to work BETTER. (Hold on - I'm getting to it) See, right now juries know that some false allegations exists. Chances are that some jurors know someone who has either been raped or know someonw who has been falsely accused. Prosecutors have had a harder time getting conviction rates for rapes.

After the false accusers see that signifigant penalties are handed out they are detered. Less false allegations are reported. More women who have been raped who go to trial secure convictions against the predators that rape. Conviction rates for rape RISE. It's a separation of the wheat and the chaff.

Right now there is no deterrent to false allegations. Everyone who can read knows this. In fact, women in Britain are offered a CASH reward (compensation) for being rape victims.

But when women who are securing their rapists convictions rise, and the number of false allegations falls, the systems starts to balance out. Men can no longer claim that justice is one sided, and women's advocates can rightly show that conviction rates for rape have risen and that false allegations, which were once shown to be higher, have significantly dropped.

It's an idea who's time has come. Both men who are falsely accused and women who are raped win.

Give it some thought and I hope this sparks some discussion.

Steven

Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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