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The attack on fraternities is an attack not just on men's rights to assemble but also on their right to exist on college campuses. If it is not frats, it's sports teams. If not, then it'll be any club that is formed that exists largely to facilitate men's interests, if even to assemble in peace without having women around them all the time (men need their time alone together, just as women do; why can't so many people acknowledge this obvious truth?).
Wendy's article was good but there is an even bigger issue here: being male in the presence of females on a college campus has become its own kind of criminal activity in the eyes of too many people. Accusations of wrong-doing are presumed true, men are guilty even when proven innocent.
I am sooo glad I am not going to college in this era of camus-based anti-maleness.
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by Anonymous User on 01:09 PM May 12th, 2004 EST (#2)
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You're right.
Especialy since even being BORN male is un-lawful!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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as a football player whenever i mention my pasttime to certian women i get this reaction form thgem. they think that i'am some big knuckle draging neanderthal who drinks beer and likes to rape and oppress poor little women. i am damn fucking sick of it. i am an itellegent young man with three sisters and a mother that i love with all of my heart. i wouldnever hurt any women , however i would love to have the chance in a consiquence free enviroment to yell and scream and tell each of these sexist bigots that i get this reaction from exactly what i think of them. oh btw i don't drink.
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by Anonymous User on 06:38 PM May 12th, 2004 EST (#4)
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I saw a guy on a college campus today wearing a T-shirt that said (on the front), OPPRESSOR. Great, I thougt, this brainwashed moron really needs some help.
Ray
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Just because he's wearing an "Oppressor" shirt doesn't mean he's buying into feminist BS. It could be a cynical comment.
I've thought of doing the same but with a little bit more edge. For example: "Guilty: Just for being male."
Perhaps a line of t-shirts that that advertise male issues on a level that encourages comment and dialog might be useful as well?
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I'm thinking of kind of a subtle approach. I really like the the mensbiz gear. (Sooner or later I'll pick up a couple of shirts.) But this approach is as subtle as a Mac Truck. Bigots can easily reject the direct approach, we aren't human to them anyway.
If we have something that arouses curiousity, people will actually have to interact with us to find out what the t-shirt means.
These examples could be made a little more subtle but...
"Sure, I don't mind being your bodyguard even though you refuse to take any responsibility for your own self-defense."
"Watch your back? Not a problem. You'll watch mine, right?"
"Put myself totally at a woman's mercy? Where do I sign up?"
"How about a little equal work for that equal pay? Is equal risk out of the question?"
I don't know... Maybe pick some themes and develop things from there? I'm kind of thinking black t-shirts with white lettering. Simple, easy to read...
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by Anonymous User on 06:42 PM May 14th, 2004 EST (#9)
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"But this approach is as subtle as a Mac Truck."
Your point is well taken, and I have to be honest and say others have made similar observations so ... stay tuned for the subtle line of men's protest wear and accessories.
The Subtle Line , for those laid back folks who want to express themselves in a more subdued and unobtrusive manner.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 08:41 PM May 14th, 2004 EST (#10)
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"But this approach is as subtle as a Mac Truck."
The Subtle line is here! so just (click) The Subtle Line . As always suggestions are welcome. O.K. it's only 5 T-shirts, but it's a start and more will be added soon. Scroll down the page and click on The Subtle Line logo to see the T-shirts.
Ray
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Oh yes! My favorite is the "Get Married" T followed by "Equal justice for men". I think they all will lead people to ask questions that have unpleasant answers...
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by Anonymous User on 09:32 AM May 15th, 2004 EST (#12)
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"My favorite is the "Get Married" T followed by "Equal justice for men"."
Thanks, I just sent this not so serious email to a friend of mine whose helping me do this, but made the mistake of referring to this effort as "The Simple Line."
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"Subtle," not simple.
Just between you and me the subtle line is our way of making fun at some of our over the top designs.
The Subtle Line, for the discriminating male espousing fashion egalitarianism for all. The Subtle Line, where understatement makes the point and customers compliment the message. The Subtle Line, for those moments when you only want to "piss people off" a little bit. The Subtle Line, for those moments when your eyes meet with hers and the chemistry says take me I'm yours, but your brain just wants to drop a hand grenade in your shorts. Will she get the message? Yes, and she'll be left with the lingering realization that Bubba is on to the "come on" of the Femme Fatales.
The next T-shirt:
Front: "Bubba wants to play, but Bubba won't pay."
Back: You go girl, straight to your own wallet for a change."
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 07:27 PM May 12th, 2004 EST (#5)
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">...they think that i'am some big knuckle draging neanderthal who drinks beer and likes to rape and oppress poor little women,"
"i would love to have the chance in a consiquence free enviroment to yell and scream and tell each of these sexist bigots that i get this reaction from exactly what i think of them.,"
JimmyD:
Here might be some attire to express your feelings.
(click) Women's Studies - Unscholarly Research
There's a great book by Dahne Patai (a former women's studies professor), called Heterophobia, which talks about Male Bashing and Heterosexual Bashing on college campuses. I highly recommend the book.
(click) Women's Studies is Heterophobic
This next one is really subtle, but it's my friends favorite. He wore the male version to a UCLA book fair a couple of weeks ago on a weekend.
(click) Women's Studies Sucks
Except for a few rich men at the top of the economic world, most men are just hard working stiffs who make up 94% of industrial deaths. The one below is one of my favorites.
(click) Death is the Greatest Indicator of Oppression
Privileged Patriarchy is largely a women's studies lie, except for those few privileged men at the top of the career ladder.
(click) Privileged Patriarchy is Largely a Women's Studies Myth
There are almost 400 products at Mensbiz now. When my buddies told be about the book fair at UCLA, my first comment to them was, "I've got nothing to wear." "Get out of here," was their reply.
Here's what I wore,
Men Are Not Disposable
(Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item(s). All the info I am trying to convey is only as the page comes up initially.)
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