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by Anonymous User on 01:22 PM April 27th, 2004 EST (#1)
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People may want to email Roland Warren, president of the National Fatherhood Initiative, about working with and listening to the fathers' rights movement about their ads. He agreed to meet with Reggie Brass of My Child Says Daddy, but it's not clear yet whether that will happen. NFI's ads and public service announcements, so far as we've seen, always address the problem of fatherlessness, and often lean toward telling dads "c-mon dads, your kids want to see you," making sound like it's always the dad's fault, but never address the problem of dads being impeded from access to their children by the courts or by moms. On the show, Roland could not give one example in which they addressed this problem, but could only respond with comments like "we're just trying to inspire dads to get involved with their kids." That would be fine if it were just one aspect of their outreach and if they also worked to inspire mothers and courts to let dad be involved, but they don't do that, probably for fear of offending feminists. If anyone wants to write, Roland's email is info@fatherhood.org
Marc
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by Anonymous User on 02:03 PM April 27th, 2004 EST (#2)
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"NFI's ads and public service announcements, so far as we've seen, always address the problem of fatherlessness....Roland could not give one example in which they addressed this problem, but could only respond with comments like 'we're just trying to inspire dads to get involved with their kids.'"
Yes. I heard Roland explain why he is involved with National Fatherhood Initiative. From his explanation, it is clear that he has deep-seated anger and resentment towards his own father who was absent in his life. That would explain the bias in the ads that attack only the black male.
Basically, he is expressing his anger towards his father via the medium of the ads, and the feminist luv him for that. This is why they are able to get funding for their PSA's.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 07:32 PM April 27th, 2004 EST (#4)
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"NFI's ads and public service announcements, so far as we've seen, always address the problem of fatherlessness, and often lean toward telling dads "c-mon dads, your kids want to see you," making it sound like it's always the dad's fault, but never address the problem of dads being impeded from access to their children by the courts or by moms. On the show, Roland could not give one example in which they addressed this problem, but could only respond with comments like "we're just trying to inspire dads to get involved with their kids."
"...probably for fear of offending feminists."
In fact on the show Roland responded with outright anger, which seemed to indicate he wasn't too concerned about continuing to offend Fathers and men. Glenn and Reggie did an excellent job of showing how Fathers are set up, beaten down, and screwed over first by the courts and then feminist toadies trying to pick clean the bones of down trodden Fathers.
As I told one amazed (upset) feminist who saw me in one of my "Men are not Disposable" T-shirts this weekend, "Get used to it."
It is heartening to see so many men starting to stand together on these issues.
Ray
I'll be wearing this one a lot in the coming months.
(Click) 2004 - Wear It With Pride
(Please do not scroll up the page of the linked item(s). All the info I am trying to convey is only as the page comes up initially.)
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I didn't listen to the show until tonight due to being pretty busy. This was one of the best shows that Glenn has put on and Roland's lack of credible answers (hey, I'm not gonna sugar coat it) made our postions seem even better.
Drop Roland a line. Even if it's just a short E-mail. I'm gonna craft a letter tomorrow and hopefully my letter, along with everyone elses, will turn this guy around.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 07:54 PM April 28th, 2004 EST (#7)
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Dear Mr. Warren,
Your organization's ads show contempt for black fathers. Too often men have been valued by their ability to produce money. How many women want to marry a loving, caring, poor man? No, men are expected to produce money to support women and children. The whole "child support" industry uses the force of law to force money from men, even unmarried men who faced an unplanned pregnancy.
Our society treats men like disposable sub-humans. And then you complain that they are not active in their children's lives. Many men who want to play an active role as a father are prevented from doing that. For some education, see "Is there a fatherhood crisis?" at http://www.independent.org/tii/content/pubs/review /tir84_baskerville.html
Stop blaming fathers, and start addressing the injustices that they face.
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All of Glenn's shows are worth while but this show was particularly good and informative. If you don't download it and listen you are out to lunch.
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One thing that always gets me about people, sometimes feminists and sometimes the unaffiliated, is this opinion that dads purposefully don't spend time with their kids. This is rarely the case, my dad probably would've given his right arm to be able to support a stay-at-home [n homeschooling] wife and three kids without working 6 days a week, and if you include commuting he'd be gone 12 hours a day. As soon as us kids were old enough, my mom started working, but they also went and upgraded the lifestyle, so more things needed to be paid for - no less work for anyone.
My point to that story was, people all over might feel men don't take enough time to be with kids, without considering that if the standard for living could be comfortably lower, men would stay home.
Part of it is the drive to succeed, that men should never be going about work comfortably, always competing, always trying to get a raise or promotion or something. No part-time.
All right, I'm rambling, but that struck me.
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