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Grown men need to grow up apparently
posted by Adam on 10:18 AM April 11th, 2004
The Media Jim writes "This article from the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. examines the reasons why so many men are apparently still living with their parents well into their 30's and 40's. I thought this would be an objective look into an interesting subject, but it soon becomes obvious after a few paragraphs that this is not an even-handed article. Who agrees?"

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I'll never understand... (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on 10:58 AM April 11th, 2004 EST (#1)
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...why the living arrangements of certain people is such a great concern to others. A guy could volunteer with the Red Cross, give heavily to charity, hold a selfless job, and be extremely kind to everyone he meets, but if he lives with Mom and Dad, that will be people's only concern.

There are various reasons why people live with their parents; each case is different. I have my reasons; I don't think I'm a bad or irresponsible person for it.

bg
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:1)
by MAUS on 11:23 AM April 11th, 2004 EST (#2)
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It does not really matter what a man chooses to do or not to do a feminazi will find something catty to say about it. No doubt she will have kind and compassionate explainations in terms of the big bad patriarchy as to why the women choose to stay at home. And let's face it the "stigma"against such things is more of that anti-family thing...everyone knows just how bad families are for the cohesion of civilization now don't we. To me this article points out just how bored and redundant the feminazis who turned the CBC into Political Corrections Canada really are. And as for that tiresome mantra about earning 62% of what men earn...join a union and walk a picket line sister. The only two occassions in which that pay equity law was enforced in Canada it was the Public Service Alliance of Canada (PSAC) and the union representing Bell Telephone workers who fought that fight...not the feminazis. In both cases feminazi lawyers represented the bosses in fighting the pay equity action. You are right...when a feminazi cannot find something to come up with to meet her bitching quota for her professional bitching career obligations she will pick other peoples'noses.
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:1)
by Gregory on 12:50 PM April 11th, 2004 EST (#4)
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It's not an even-handed article. It's feminist commentary written to denigrate men who live at home while letting women off the hook. It's typical and predictable. Georgie Binks would probably write a similar article criticizing guys who complain about having to pay for all dating expenses. It's just typical feminist hypocrisy.
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:1)
by TLE on 11:41 AM April 12th, 2004 EST (#11)
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Of course the guy's living arragement is not any of their damn business. Why must we assume such men are bums? Maybe some are helping take care of their aging parents.

As always, the conclusions to be drawn from the article are that women are better people than men, and they are more successful even though they are oppressed. Maybe all these women with their own apartments should let men move in for free. No one seems to question that arragement when a woman moves in with a guy.
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:2)
by jenk on 01:00 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#12)
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Did you notice that there was only 10 percent difference between men and women in Canada? That is not a lot of difference, yet the article ONLY talked about men, even though a fourth of women also live at home, vs a third of men. Also, while the 'girls' complain that the 'boys' were not doing anything around the house, I would bet most boys helped with repairs and such. SO while they did not do the daily dishes or laundry, they likely were doing the painting, plumbing, or auto repair, things that girls don't notice as being work.
What a crappy article. These feminists just bash men at every turn. It really feels like a national conspiracy, since it is happening at every level, everywhere you turn. You wonder if we are going to all wake up someday and the head feminazi will expose her dasterdly plan and take full control of the world. Sounds crazy but damn, it never ends.

The Biscuit Queen
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:07 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#13)
It is rather common for the men of my people (Indians) to live with family. IE parents.
I stay with my parents because they can't get by without me. They are elderly and can only do so much. I do all sorts of things to help them out INCLUDEING giveing them MOST of my pay check!
I am honored and proud to help my Mom and Dad. We Indians respect, love and aid or elders.
My guess is that a good number of men who are still living "at home" do pretty much as I and other native men do. We TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES!
I am in my 40s. and I have no intention of moveing out of my parents house. I will stay as long as I'm needed, or if they want me to leave, no matter what some misandric feminists or wussie-poopie fem-boys have to say about it.
By the way, alot of men from traditional Asian cultures stay with their families ALL their lives. (very similar to us Indians)
Of course NONE of these circumstances are mentioned are they?

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:2)
by jenk on 07:09 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#18)
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My (in law)Uncle, his wife, kids and his sister all lived with my Grandmother (in law) until her death. They took care of her and she owned the house outright so their bills were all cheaper. Grandma was able to stay out of the nursing home and Aunt Liz out of the psych house (she is a little franey). Large families are good for everyone, but gender feminists are afraid of the responsibility which comes with large families living together.

The Biscuit Queen
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 04:09 PM April 13th, 2004 EST (#20)
Jen.
Yes, That's something I forgot to mention..., I also promised my parents they'd NEVER be put in a nurseing home.

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  "Hoka hey!"
Re:I'll never understand... (Score:2)
by Raymond Cuttill on 10:14 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#19)
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You'll notice that 10% becomes
I zero in on men because they far surpass women
. So 64% "far surpasses" 52%. I'll bet anything that if it was something 10% in favour of women and men were complaining then 10% would be "insignificant".

Raymond Cuttill
Men's Hour Blog
Well, So What Of It? (Score:2)
by Luek on 12:46 PM April 11th, 2004 EST (#3)
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Seems to me this GEORGIE BINKS rad fem a-hole is a bit threatened with older men living at home and not getting married.

Well, so what? Marriage, especially in Canada is no longer safe for men. I wouldn't get married today for anything. I personally feel safer being on my own. And I do not live with my parents. It is a good feeling coming home and not having to worry if some broad is going to take me to the judicial cleaners in a divorce if I even forget her stinking birthday. So to hell with marriage! Enjoy freedom!
Re:Well, So What Of It? (Score:2, Interesting)
by westcoast2 on 01:12 PM April 11th, 2004 EST (#5)
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One woman commented...
Leslie, a 40-something business executive says she and her friends call men who still live at home (and she says a surprising number of divorced men move back home) "basement boys" or "cellar dwellers." She says, "They often tell you gradually and an excuse is attached to it. The single biggest thing I have heard is men who have separated, who have lost the house, who don't have the funds. I'm not sure why the first thing they think of when they separate is going back home. It would never occur to me."

Apart from the name calling, the last comment is telling. She dosen't actually say what she would do. Actually she probably got the house, so no worries there then.

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Re:Well, So What Of It? (Score:1)
by MAUS on 08:33 AM April 12th, 2004 EST (#10)
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"GEORGIE BINKS rad fem a-hole "

This is part of the legacy of the Mulrooney Tory era in Canada. The Torys believe that taxation is just fundamentally criminal and one of the first things they do when they are elected is to take anything that a taxpayer might feel glad to pay taxes for and turn it into a cynical joke.

The CBC got coocoo's nested with feminazis who turned a once world class news, sporting events,documentary and cultural coverage network into Political Corrections Canada.

Because she IS a rad-fem asshole she has a career obligation to shop the world for anything and everything that she can possibly come up with to villify and /or belittle men.

If the tax dollar plug did get pulled on the CBC ( as it did for Studio "D" for dyke at the National Film Board) the only job she could find would be in a pool hall breaking balls. Maybe then she might consider moving home...then again perhaps not...I can just immagine the bitch who spawned her.
Male Bashing (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:40 PM April 11th, 2004 EST (#6)
"But between the sexes, 64 per cent of men aged 20-24 lived with their parents, while 52 per cent of women in the same age group did."

If this were reversed radical/gender feminists would be screaming there heads off about how privileged men were to have their own apartments, while women would be view as oppressed for having to live with their parents. There's a real double standard at work here.

Indeed, the radical/gender feminist movement has been working for decades to oppress men and take away anything that is of benefit to them. It is no wonder then, to any objective person, that men are having difficulties in a number of areas?

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In a biased manner this article offers no solutions to men's problems. It points to statistics in a femi-supremacist manner as if to say, women are achieving this number, and then vaguely tries to infer the number is some kind of bench mark men should be achieving as well. When I looked at those numbers I asked, "Why are so many females still living at home too?" 12%, the difference between the number of live at home males and female is significant, but not earth shattering.

This article tries to blame men as if they are intentionally malingering instead of pointing out how radical/gender feminism's war on men has discriminated against men so much that men are now rampantly discriminated against in all areas of society.

Stop Male Bashing

The article goes on to say: "One woman I know was so frustrated in her attempts to oust her son, 25, from the family home that she sold her place and bought a smaller one."

It appears the mother being mentioned here has already driven the Father from the home. Maybe a huge part of the problem is junior never had a Father when growing up. Given that Fatherless is the greatest indicator of delinquency in juveniles, and given the fact that 80% of divorces are filed by women, I think we may see the real problem junior is having. Mom didn't want Dad. She just wanted his kid so she could get his house and paycheck for life. Now that junior has gotten more expensive she doesn't want him either. I guess she and the judge weren't thinking about what was in the long term best interest of the child, when they stole him from Dad.

All I have to say is I hope junior is still living with Mom, when she's on social security, so she knows how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot. I wonder how many of these stay at home males have already had their own bad experiences with women that they are still paying for under the laws of our man-hating governments.

Ray

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Why aren't others as great as me??? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 05:01 PM April 11th, 2004 EST (#7)
"The single biggest thing I have heard is men who have separated, who have lost the house, who don't have the funds. I'm not sure why the first thing they think of when they separate is going back home. It would never occur to me."

The simple reason "It would never occur" to her, or other canadian women, is because they aren't financially raped in divorce court, and other gender biased candian courts by the feminazi man-hating government like men are.

Ray

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grrg (Score:1)
by crescentluna (evil_maiden @ yahoo.com) on 10:21 PM April 11th, 2004 EST (#8)
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shoot, of course she wouldn't consider going back to mom and pop, she isn't the one paying alimony and child support.

I probably shouldn't say too much, I moved out at 17 [I'm 19 now], the guy I'm dating is 21 and is living with parents - moved away briefly, but after roommate and former lover mishaps moved back.
Basically, I don't think these guys are mooches or failures, sometimes there are more pressing things in life than being able to afford to live on your own - like getting rid of nasty student debt or saving up for your own house instead of renting, etc. Yeah, I'm sure some of them are mooching, how far different is that from the girl that lives with a guy, whether married or not, and doesn't contribute to the household?
Luna? (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on 04:03 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#14)
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Thank you.

bg
Some people just have to stick their noses in ... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:16 PM April 11th, 2004 EST (#9)
"Armin Brott, author of Father for Life, says men feel more a sense of entitlement and less of a sense of needing to pay for the privilege of staying at home than women do."

I left home when I was 19, and never returned. Both my partents are dead now. I have always missed them, and sometimes dream about them in the early morning just before I awake. My mother lived at home until she married my Dad. If parents and children love each other and want to work out their own living arrangements what is that to her (the authoress)? Is she a realtor or something? Does she lose business if men don't move out? Hey lady, keep your nose out of other peoples business. Are you the government or something?

Ray

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Re:Some people just have to stick their noses in . (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on 04:05 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#15)
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"I left home when I was 19, and never returned. Both my partents are dead now. I have always missed them, and sometimes dream about them in the early morning just before I awake."

My sincere condolences, Ray, even if it happened long ago.

bg
Re:Some people just have to stick their noses in . (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:26 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#17)
bg:

Thanks,

Ray
Don't forget to write... (Score:1)
by Boy Genteel on 04:11 PM April 12th, 2004 EST (#16)
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...please click on the link in the lower right corner to "write us", and you can send them an e-mail, as well...maybe they'll say, "Uh, hey, I think you angered a lot of people." Or maybe not.

bg
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