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by Anonymous User on Tuesday January 06, @12:46AM EST (#1)
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I was really upset when I read this. I liked Joe Liberman, but he, frankly doesn't have a clue about domestic violence (just towing the feminist line). Joe and is now just one more reason why so many men are leaving the Democrat party.
Let me be the 1st to say that when it comes to George W. Bush and John Ashcroft there's nothing they've done lately in this area that wouldn't keep them out of the same boat Joe's in. You know the boat that has "Feminist, Suck A _ _ " written on stern. Sorry, that's pretty vulgur for me, but it's true.
Ray
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... the candidate on the FACTS. Call or e-mail his campaign re this issue!
http://www.joe2004.com/site/PageServer?pagename=ge tin_contactus
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Here's my note I just sent to his Campaign office:
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To: info@joe2004.com
Dear Lieberman Campaign:
I read the article at:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/po litics/7618916.htm
I was surprised to see Mr. Lieberman framing DV only in terms of man-on-woman violence. The governement's own statistics and numerous independent stiudies show women are as likely to initiate DV attacks as men, and most instances of DV are part of a cycle of attack and reprisal. Women are also more likely to use weapons which cause more grievous injuries to their victims than are men.
DV framed as a men-only-against-women issue is a left-over from sorely outdated notions of chivalry and female passivity. I believe a progressive candidate like Mr. Lieberman should be more aware of the up-to-date facts of an issue like DV. Please ask him to review the following web sites for information about how DV is a gender-blind matter, and also is a sexuality-blind matter; DV among the gay and lesbian community is as serious an issue as among the heterosexual community, yet gets virtually no press as well.
http://www.batteredmen.com/
http://www.mensrights.com.au/page13y.htm
http://www.ukmm.org.uk/issues/synopsis.htm#domesti c_violence
http://www.gmdvp.org/
http://www.womanabuseprevention.com/html/same-sex_ partner_abuse.html
http://www.safe4all.org/
http://www.familyofmen.com/alsoatrisk.htm
http://www.batteredmen.com/fiebertg.htm
http://www.dvmen.org/dv-71.htm
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hppb/familyviolence/pdfs/hu sbandenglish.pdf
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hppb/familyviolence/maleabu s_e.html
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hppb/familyviolence/html/in visible.htm
http://www.jimhopper.com/male-ab/
Thank you,
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday January 06, @12:59PM EST (#4)
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Dear MCC:
Very nicely done, thank you very much.
Sincerely, Ray
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Here's what I sent to them:
I was saddened to see that the Lieberman campaign is belching out the same tired sexist rhetoric about domestic violence. Please look at the last 30 years of research that shows clearly that men and women are nearly equally violent and that the serious injuries that occur are roughly distributed 62% women and 38% to men. (Archer, J, Psyc Bul 2000, meta analysis).
The sad fact now is that the 38% men who are victims are ignored (or worse yet are arrested after being falsely accused) and go without treatment facilities across our country. Is there an emergency shelter in your state of Connecticut that accepts men and their children? I bet you don't even know the answer to that question. Did you know that the Justice Department estimates there were over 835,000 men who were victims of domestic violence last year? How many would that be in Connecticut?
I would be glad to support a candidate that had the courage to bring this glaring atrocity to the forefront and sought ideas and solutions. Mouthing the same old women victims/men perpetrators is simply pandering to the female vote.
Tom
Mens Rights 2004 Congress
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Hello Senator Liberman,
Here is the e-mail I sent to his headquarters.
No answer after two days and counting.
"I would like to know what your stance is about the "other half" of domestic violence? That "other half" is the domestic violence perpetuated against MEN. I am genuinely interested in your answer to this problem."
Excerpt from article:
Posted on Fri, Jan. 02, 2004
Lieberman Proposes Domestic Violence Plan
HOLLY RAMER
Associated Press
"I want to say to women who may be in this situation, 'Come out of the shadows. Don't take it. Ask for help,'" Lieberman said during a discussion at a campaign supporter's home in Bedford. "And I say to men, 'Strong men don't beat women. Strong men take care of their women.'"
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Here is my (non)answer from the Lieberman camp.
Oh well, I did you expect?
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Dear Friend,
Thank you for your inquiry about where I stand on the issues. I
appreciate hearing from you.
I've recently published a new e-Book called "Leading with Integrity,"
which outlines in broad strokes my ideas for the future of the nation.
Follow the link below to view my new e-Book
http://www.leadingwithintegrity.com/plan/book.htm
My website, www.joe2004.com, has also been enhanced to include
information about both my record on key issues and my detailed agenda to
improve America. From the home page, simply click on "Issues and Ideas."
My campaign for President is about renewing the American dream - keeping
our nation secure, rejuvenating our economy, and standing up for our
shared core values. I hope that you will join me in this effort.
Thanks again for your interest in my campaign.
All the best,
Joe Lieberman
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