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Father's 4 Justice protesters being charged.
posted by Hombre on Tuesday December 23, @11:31AM
from the Activism dept.
News It seems that UK police are demonstrating a pattern in dealing with the F4J civil rights crusaders. A recent demonstration in which five campaigners dressed as Santa and held signs on a walkway above a major road resulted in police assuming they were dangerous, closing the road to traffic, and then charging them with being a public nuisance. Article here.

However unlike the case with David Chick, (aka spiderman), there was no crane or any other impediment to the police simply walking up and arresting them. So why was the road closed? Is this the UK police force's way of trying to bias the populace against father's rights protestors, by making them think they "force" roads to be closed? Would the actions of the protestors be legal under UK law had police not decided traffic needed to be diverted thus causing the Santas to become a public nuisance?

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Civil Disobedience (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday December 23, @07:03PM EST (#1)
It's just too hard to hold on to or get a good job with any kind of police record so I avoid civil disobedience. It appears U.K. police are trying to use a past history of civil disobedience associated with this group (climbing a crane, creating a traffic nusiance, threatening public safety) as an excuse to pre-emptively shut down their protests.

I guess they think Spiderman and others who climb cranes might fall on someone, or injury themselves, and thereby constitute a public safety hazard.

I admire the spunk of this group, but think they are a step beyond (civil disobedience) where I want to go.

I really like the comaraderie of this group and would love to see more of this in the U.S. amongst men's rights activists.

Ray
those who would trade freedom for safety end up - (Score:1)
by zenpriest on Tuesday December 23, @09:18PM EST (#2)
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with neither. - Benjamin Franklin.

The tree of liberty must be watered every few years with the blood of tyrants, and of patriots. - Thomas Jefferson

Ray,

What if there was something you could do, which was entirely legal, but could have a real impact? Would you do it?

"Operation Rock the Boat."

Suppose that we could get men to agree that for the next 90 days, Coke is the official drink of men. If you buy any drink, make it a Coke product. Millions of men. No pain, don't even have to give up their beloved remote controls. Just make a buying choice. Then, after 90 days, we decide we don't like Coke any more, and Pepsi is the drink of men. Men giveth, and men taketh away.

We start to bounce the quarterly profits of two companies like yoyos. We screw with their stock price. We follow the best quarter ever with the worst quarter ever.

Think that advertisers might start to think twice before airing a man-bashing commercial?

Then, we move on to Operation Whipsaw. Vote against the incumbent. We don't care who he/she is, we just keep them from getting entrenched.

Nobody has to do shit other than what they do every day. D'ya think that if we make men's activism that simple and easy that we could get lots of men to sign on?

Re:those who would trade freedom for safety end up (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday December 23, @10:25PM EST (#3)
"Nobody has to do shit other than what they do every day. D'ya think that if we make men's activism that simple and easy that we could get lots of men to sign on?"

It will take some marketing. There has to be something that really pulls us together and holds us together. Nothing suceeds like success as the UK men are proving. If the leaders in that movement can hold it together and build on their successes, then they can start to do things like you mention and others will follow.

Ray
Hello (Score:1)
by LSBeene on Wednesday December 24, @04:29AM EST (#4)
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I know I am typing this to "the choir", but I personally have no doubt the if the protesters were WOMEN who were protesting the "unfairness" of issue "x,y, or z" then the reaction would doubtless, to me, be very different.

I remember after 9/11 here is the U.S. I was driving down the highway and at like 3 overpass' there were people who were hanging American flags near the base I was stationed at (Ft. Richardson, Alaska). No one bothered these patriotic citizens who were telling the troops, us, that they were behind us. At 3 overpass' 1 before the base and two after (depending on which way you were coming) these folks were having a "tailgate" party to let us folks in green know that we were appreciated. Trust me, it was mutual. As an aside, when I went downtown in Anchorage 2 days after 9/11 (to set up my car payment with Wells Fargo) some woman came up to me out of the blue, hugged me, and told me (with a tear in her eye) that she was so damn proud of us.

It's really wrong how these Brit fathers are being treated. No violence is being advocated. No anti-woman ideas being spit out. These FATHERS are doing what our cultures have been BEGGING for us to do: stand up and BE fathers. But, and this is sad, I think it illustrates what the Pro-Feminazis REALLY want us to do: sit down, pay up, shut up, and go on being slaves.

Civil disobedience, pffft, this hardly qualifies! These men are holding up placards, waving signs, and protesting injustice without disruption. Give me a break.

Peace
  Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Re: Rad Fems use the State for 3rd Party Abuse (Score:1)
by Roy on Thursday December 25, @06:50PM EST (#5)
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That these courageous Brit dads are already being persecuted by their National Injustice Regime is further evidence of the blatant corruption and discriminatory nature of the so-called "legal" system.

Until the feminist stranglehold on the courts is reversed, revoked, and utterly repudiated, there will be NO JUSTICE FOR MEN!

The good news is that these Brit "subversives" have every principle of law and fairness on their side... and when this struggle ultimately gets to the highest levels of judicial review, as it must, they will prevail.

Then, count on it, you will see the feminist demogogues rally all their resources to try to squash a small crack in the edifice of anti-male tyranny.

The Brit fathers are a valiant vanguard that we captives here in the feminized colonies need to emulate and learn from....

One clear lesson is that it doesn't really take a Million Dads March to make change happen.

It just takes a few savvy soldiers with good strategy, guts, and the perseverance to keep the media spotlight focused on the issues!

Their tactics are quite brilliant, because even if they "lose" a couple of early rounds, they get the message before the entire society, and set up the momentum for eventual victory.

Great to see the Old Empire still has what it takes to produce a few real heroes!


"It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." - Roy: hunted replicant, Blade Runner
Re: Rad Fems use the State for 3rd Party Abuse (Score:1)
by zenpriest on Monday December 29, @10:54PM EST (#6)
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The good news is that these Brit "subversives" have every principle of law and fairness on their side... and when this struggle ultimately gets to the highest levels of judicial review, as it must, they will prevail.

But, ..... what if it it doesn't, Roy, what then? Will men then, FINALLY, be able to see that entire system is corrupt? I know of 2 men who used a legal procedure called a "Bill of Particulars" which cited all kinds of law for their position. The judges, all the way up the line, simply ignored it.
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