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The mere fact that this service exists pleases me no end. I really don't mind taking my wife to the mall or wherever she wants to shop, but I absolutely HATE shopping with her. So I'd be a customer for this service, with one caveat:
The name. I find the notion of labeling this a "kindergarten" to be more than a little insulting. It really will be up to the patrons to force them to change it.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 08, @07:41PM EST (#3)
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I tend to agree here. The idea itself doesn't offend me. Alot of men might appreciate it in fact. But ridiculing the men like that for what they enjoy is offensive. Most of these men work far more hours than their female partners outside of the home and it's perfectly understandable if they want their time for sports and beer. With ridicule like that I'd avoid that shopping center altogether. A good protest over the label might be in line.
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I agree with the idea. I also agree with the above post. Lookee here pardners, I am a "typical man" when it comes to shopping. Especially if it means shoppin with my wife. For me 'shopping' means going into a store with a preset idea and snatching it. Pay and go home. For my wife it's different. That's all good. Got me a grade A+ wife and we're just different. Hoo-ahh and pass the happiness!
On the NAME of the place I wholeheartedly agree. It's just demeaning. I don't imagine the name: Shrew's Cage would go over well with the breasted crowd for a place that was for wives while we went to do a "manly" thing. Men hate being infantalized and women hate being labeled "bitches". Sheee-it. It's common sense. These days you gotta explain that stuff, ya know what I am talking about, whether water is wet or the sky is blue, or women and men are just wired different. Like I said before. My wife: got me a terrific one. Is she different than me. Well, put it this way, if she started peeing standing up and thought being feminine was Passee (I can't put the acccent on it: passee - French for things of the past - I believe). Well, if that were to happen I wouldn't wanna hug my honey bunny. Same goes if she caught me shaving my legs and singing show tunes.
Peace
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Why not nust go shopping alone? When I go shopping I don't bring along ANY encumberances, I even wear comfortable shoes and underwear. I wouldn't even shop with another woman in tow much less a man! [Shiver at the thought. ]
Geez, shopping with another person is like shopping with a 500 lb. millstone around your neck. Why would a rational person do it?
Shopping is an extreme sport. If you're not up for it stay home!
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Do not have the balls to tell their wives to just go alone, then they NEED kindergarten. Not to mention having a pair attached.
On the one hand, the infantalizing (good word) does offend me, but what offends me more is the milquetoast tendancy of these men to say "Yes dear" and then get all passive aggressive, to where the woman wants to drop them off.
Say, "No."
I know it's hard guys. I know that most women are spoilt little princess-bitches who have never heard the word "No" uttered in a no-nonsense, you've-obviously-mistaken-this-for-a-negotiation tone of voice in ther pathetic lives, but try it.
No.
I don't like to, that's why.
I'm not standing outside the fucking changing room holding your fucking purse for a half hour.
I have better things to do with my time than browse through crap I have no desire to own nor intention to buy.
No.
GHo by yourself. Take one of your hens with you. Have a good time.
Oh - spend your own fucking money too, Little Ms. Strong and Independant and "I don't need a man."
* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
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Oh - spend your own fucking money too, Little Ms. Strong and Independant
That's rather the crux of the matter for many men. They don't have control over their money (eg joint accounts or little ms. has a credit card linked to his) so the only recourse they have is to follow their SO around the mall saying things like "that really makes you look fat", "you have three of those already, remember dear?", and "remember that breadmaker you bought that we neve r use?"
Those who like this sort of thing
will find this the sort of thing they like.
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Don't hold back man ... let it out.
No, no, I mean tell us how you REALLY feel.
I am STILL laughing my ass off at your post.
Go Gonzo Go Gonzo Go Gonzo
See, and I know this will raise a few hackles on our female readers, this is why I married myself to an Asian woman. American Women are spoon fed bullshit all their lives. Seriously, they get some Feminazi who feeds em a steady diet of "princess factor" and "independant women", then she adds in a dash of "but but but ... that's different" and a sprig of "I don't have a chip on my shoulder, how dare you point it out, now open the door, pay for my dinner, and SEND THE FUCKING CHECK if you EVER want to see your miserable little rug rats!!!" ... swirl it up and serve chilled.
Sorry, couldn't resist
Peace
Steven
"I think of a man ... then I remove reason and accountability" - Jack Nicholson
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on Thursday October 09, @07:59AM EST (#7)
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Steven, now you tell us how you feel ;-)
I guess my marriage is just a strange one. We have always, from day one, done our own thing. If we all go shopping at the mall, he heads to the computer store, I go to the toy store or fabric store and we meet at the book store, and we both are happy. If I go to dog events he does his thing, and if he goes to a gaming party I do my thing. I do not see what the big deal is. I think that women who want their husbands around 24/7 are those who honestly have separation anxiety and just have a hard time letting go. Or, they just cannot imagine why someone wouldn't want to spend hours browsing clothing stores. (unless it is the pet store, I am in and out as quickly as possible)
I think that even with a name change, this idea is insulting. If the men want to congregate, why do the name tag, pick up, and wife controled enrollment. Why not just have a hangout for men, called 'While she is out' or 'Free at last' or something. Jen
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To women like you I apologize, in total sincerity, for my rant. My wife and I get along very well. We each of us realize we have our "spheres of influence" in our relationship. When they mingle we hash it out. I may crack comments and play the "good-ol-boy" part for a literary tool, but my wife deserves my most humble, loving, and patient respect. She's a keeper. Ok, I will be a total sap and say it:
She's the best gift God ever gave me.
I love her somethig awful. I put down my rants in the "good-ol-boy" style just because its a way I write that I feel comfortable with. I hope the writer of the above post sees this and hears what I am truly saying.
Peace
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on Friday October 10, @11:31AM EST (#18)
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Thanks, and I was not offended in the least. There are many American women that fit that bill, I do not take responsibility for those women. Bygones, Jen
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by Anonymous User on Thursday October 09, @05:10PM EST (#10)
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hhhmmm men acting macho while thumping their chests on the internet. How manly, how brave, oh how sexy indeed!
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hhhmmm men acting macho while thumping their chests on the internet. How manly, how brave, oh how sexy indeed!
Ahhhhhhh, an Anonynut Phemicoward pursing her lips and acting all womanly with her feeble attempts at shaming language on the internet. Be still, oh my beating heart, a virtual hottie indeed, I must adjust my thinking so I might get some of this faintly and longdistancely proffered pussy!
Yeahsureyabetcha. Try an original tactic sometime. If you check back on my post list, you'll find Gonzo's rule #1 is "Females who have not the slightest clue let alone experience of being a man have zero to say on the subject of defining manhood."
Go shove it up yer fuzzy funnel, sistah!
* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
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I don't always agree with you, but you did have one point. This coward didn't even make a "handle" while chiding US on our internet anonymity. Funny thing that. Maybe she should rather be asking herself how the PC Thought Police are making it impossible to put our point of view in mainstream newspapers. Drop dead Troll
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Poor little troll,
Coming here and not actually adding anything useful, but instead ANONYMOUSLY making remarks about "men" and deriding us for being on this site. Nice "feminazi" logic on that one, cupcake. When I go to feminist sites I make sure to make a handle, hell, I often include my E-mail address so I can have a discourse. But, I understand, cupcake, that "perma-victim" role is only good when you can exploit it. PUT YOUR E-mail down and we can mail YOU. HERE IS MINE:
steven.beene@us.army.mil
We, us men and our KIND and WONDERFUL, women supporters can't get our stories on the evening news. Wanna know why, of course you don't muffin, that would put a dent in that "information" you spew forth from your Feminazi rewired head. Put up or shut up Troll House Cookie
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on Thursday October 09, @08:24AM EST (#8)
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Traditional male stores like the hardware store have been for the most part taken over by giants like HomeDepot and others, and these stores have gone overboard in making these stores friendly and accommodating for women, just like most every other public institution.
Women on the other hand feel privilege in stores that cater specifically to their sensibilities. These stores will make no attempt at making a man feel comfortable or accommodated - and in fact will make a man feel out of place.
Now the solution for this problem as presented by the German women is that men need to be "locked up" in puerile confinement as dictated by their spouse.
Can you think of a scenerio where modern culture would allow a similiar solution to get done to women?
Obviously this solution is ridiculous, but so are many feminist ideas about gender.
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... shakin' booty and a few strobe lights and I may get over the whole kindergarten thing. :-)
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once had a guy invite me to go shopping with HIM - that was odd. I think it was to see if I'd model restrictive clothing in front of him, though. I'd find the term offensive in a hard-ware store or such, if there was a "Harpies Corner" or something I'd find interesting. Otherwise I think it'd be good in ye situation:
Guy: I need to go to the mall and get a few shirts.
Girl: I need to go to the mall, check out 30 different stores and possibly buy shirt, shoes, handbag, etc.
Guy: I'll be in the [kindegarten, guy corral, whatever] if you need me.
Of course, it's still be unequal, the vast majority of the time it's okay to say you need to "dump" the husband somewhere while you do something, but it's okay for the wife to refuse to go along to the hardware store or similar establishment.
of course, I don't share a bank account with my boyfriend, so it isn't like I'd be spending OUR money - just noting about watching the wife's spending.
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Gonzo,
I tried to E-mail you but your E-mail is not working. Mine is: steven.beene@us.army.mil
Send me yours here or at my E-mail. If you don't mind. Hope to hear from you.
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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