Letter from Farrell to men's activists

	posted by Hombre on Tuesday October 07, @12:21PM from the Farrell-for-Governor dept.
	Warren Farrell sent us the following letter... "On Tuesday a few friends of yours in California will vote for children to have their dad only if you call them, and only if you address your friends' unconscious ambivalence: their openness to voting for me versus their desire to make their vote count. Here's how they can do both: Explain that there's about a chance in a billion that their one vote will make the difference between the winner and the loser. But since I am identified on the ballot with fathers' issues, each vote for me can be seen, and delivers a crystal clear message to politicians, "stop giving moms the right to children while making dads fight for children." In brief, their vote will tell politicians, "you can no longer ignore dads". (This is the way the Green party forced politicians to no longer ignore the environment.) If your friend objects, "I care about children, not dads," explain that since every child is half their mom and half their dad, a vote for me is a vote for a child to have both halves of itself. It's the first chance we've ever had to do this. We don't know if we'll have that chance again. Please think of a California friend and make that call tonight. Warmly, Warren www.warrenfarrell.com " Until recently I'd been offering a new challenge to you everyday to work for the men's rights cause by supporting Farrell. Election day is today! This is your last chance to participate by taking up Farrell's challenge and talking to any friends you have in California, or if you don't have friends there discussing it on a California forum. "What did you do when a politician ran on a men's issues platform?" "Nothing, I was tired and didn't want to miss my favorite TV show."

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No dimpled, hanging or pregnant chads (Score:0) by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 07, @08:45PM EST (#1) I went over my punch card ballot with a fine tooth comb checking for chad errors. I really wanted this vote to be counted more than any other I've ever cast in my life. Dr. Farrell was #120 on the ballot, and as a final step I made sure that hole #120 was cleanly punched out, and no other. At one point I literally looked at every unpunched chad on my ballot to check for bulging or dimples. Considering the highly contested field of 135 candidates Dr. Farrell is running in, it will be very hard for him to get a decent number of votes. As I write this, it is still about two hours before the polls close in CA so it will probably be morning before "back east" gets word of the election results (unless you are a real night owl). Believe it or not that truck sign we have all become so familiar with is still sitting on a major street in the Los Angeles area, and I'm going to leave it there until the polls close at 8 o'clock, then I'm pulling it straight in the back yard and giving the little truck a rest, doing some badly needed maintenance. I put the truck on the street this morning at 4:30 a.m. One positive thing that has already come out this campaign is that one of the most important Men's & Father's issues authors has gotten some seriously increased name recognition. However, last night as I was wearing a Warren Farrell for Gov. T-shirt a young man asked me that same question I've heard so many times in the past two months, "Who's Warren Farrell?" As I told him, I thought, "A whole new generation, desperately needing to be aware of men's issues, is becoming aware of men's issues." Sincerely, Ray

Good News! : ) Bad News! :( (Score:2) by Luek on Wednesday October 08, @04:45AM EST (#2) (User #358 Info) First, the bad news: Dr. Farrell did not win this time around. However, he did get the Men's Movement some excellent publicity and got more than a few people thinking. Now the good news: The last minute feminist inspired dirty tricks smear against Schwarzenegger claiming he felt up some women's tits 30 years and talked dirty didn't have an inpact at all. Latest exit polls show he took the so called women's vote handily.

Re:Good News! : ) Bad News! :( (Score:2) by Luek on Wednesday October 08, @04:58AM EST (#3) (User #358 Info) Correction:   30 years ago

Re:The women's vote (Score:0) by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 08, @11:33AM EST (#4) >Latest exit polls show he took the so called women's vote handily. No doubt, a majority of real women would love to be "groped" or "harrassed" in a playful way by Arnold. I wonder what percentage of the women who came forward against Arnold were lying and what percentage liked it or at least considered his "harrassment" a compliment when it originally happened, if it really happened the way they claim now. After all, we already know that the Hitler compliments accusation was bogus. I also wonder what percentage of these women are Democrats and what percentage Republicans. By the way, Arnold must have really won BIG! My wife is commenting this morning that none of the TV stations are even mentioning the win percentages. Ha! ha! ha!

Re:The women's vote (Score:0) by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 08, @05:27PM EST (#5) If those women make a claim and offer no hard evidence* to support those claims, then there is no reason to believe them. *Hard evidence can be considered to be pictures (from cameras), video, audio recordings, and, possibly, a filed police report. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously inaccurate and can't be trusted. Also, lie detector tests shouldn't be used, they are inaccurate, too.

Election Results #98 down is Dr Farrell 526 votes (Score:0) by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 08, @06:25PM EST (#6) 15117 of 15235 precincts - 99 percent   Arnold Schwarzenegger GOP 3,624,154 - 48 percent     Cruz M. Bustamante Dem 2,400,264 - 32 percent Tom McClintock GOP 996,968 - 13 percent Peter Miguel Camejo Grn 209,189 - 3 percent Arianna Huffington Ind 42,288 - 1 percent -------------------------------------------------- Those getting less than 1%: Peter V. Ueberroth GOP 21,661 - 0 percent Larry Flynt Dem 15,155 - 0 percent Gary Coleman Ind 12,549 - 0 percent George B. Schwartzman Ind 10,788 - 0 percent Mary 'Mary Carey' Cook Ind 9,855 - 0 percent Bruce Margolin Dem 7,874 - 0 percent Bill Simon GOP 7,746 - 0 percent John Christopher Burton Ind 5,855 - 0 percent David Robinson Dem 5,683 - 0 percent Van Vo GOP 5,399 - 0 percent Leo Gallagher Ind 4,784 - 0 percent Cheryl Bly-Chester GOP 4,460 - 0 percent Lawrence Steven Strauss Dem 4,330 - 0 percent Ronald Jason Palmieri Dem 3,729 - 0 percent Calvin Y. Louie Dem 3,203 - 0 percent Badi Badiozamani Ind 2,940 - 0 percent Audie Bock Dem 2,845 - 0 percent Ralph A. Hernandez Dem 2,698 - 0 percent Dan Feinstein Dem 2,560 - 0 percent Edward 'Ed' Kennedy Dem 2,544 - 0 percent Bob McClain Ind 2,487 - 0 percent James H. Green Dem 2,445 - 0 percent Angelyne Ind 2,244 - 0 percent Garrett Gruener Dem 2,151 - 0 percent Jerry Kunzman Ind 2,138 - 0 percent Jim Weir Dem 2,052 - 0 percent Ivan A. Hall Grn 2,027 - 0 percent Ned Roscoe Lib 1,961 - 0 percent Georgy Russell Dem 1,926 - 0 percent Paul Mariano Dem 1,914 - 0 percent Jonathan D. Miller Dem 1,857 - 0 percent Jack Loyd Grisham Ind 1,787 - 0 percent Brooke Adams Ind 1,763 - 0 percent Daniel Watts Grn 1,711 - 0 percent Christopher Sproul Dem 1,692 - 0 percent Ken Hamidi Lib 1,675 - 0 percent Randall D. Sprague GOP 1,591 - 0 percent Nathan Whitecloud Walton Ind 1,525 - 0 percent Frank A. Macaluso Jr. Dem 1,509 - 0 percent Marc Valdez Dem 1,486 - 0 percent John J. 'Jack' Hickey Lib 1,477 - 0 percent Daniel C. Ramirez Dem 1,460 - 0 percent Mohammad Arif Ind 1,455 - 0 percent C.T. Weber PFP 1,434 - 0 percent Michael J. Wozniak Dem 1,373 - 0 percent Mike Schmier Dem 1,321 - 0 percent Lingel H. Winters Dem 1,307 - 0 percent Diana Foss Dem 1,299 - 0 percent B.E. Smith Ind 1,267 - 0 percent Joe Guzzardi Dem 1,203 - 0 percent Richard J. Simmons Ind 1,199 - 0 percent Mike P. McCarthy Ind 1,185 - 0 percent Art Brown Dem 1,136 - 0 percent Leonard Padilla Ind 1,135 - 0 percent Maurice Walker Grn 1,081 - 0 percent Iris Adam NLP 1,078 - 0 percent Trek Thunder Kelly Ind 1,065 - 0 percent Darin Price NLP 1,015 - 0 percent Vik S. Bajwa Dem 989 - 0 percent John 'Jack' Mortensen Dem 963 - 0 percent Sara Ann Hanlon Ind 930 - 0 percent David Ronald Sams GOP 925 - 0 percent Diane Beall Templin AIP 919 - 0 percent Jim Hoffmann GOP 907 - 0 percent Dick Lane Dem 878 - 0 percent Charles 'Chuck' Pineda Jr. Dem 878 - 0 percent Bill Vaughn Dem 876 - 0 percent Robert C. Newman II GOP 851 - 0 percent C. Stephen Henderson Ind 826 - 0 percent Scott A. Mednick Dem 785 - 0 percent Dorene Musilli GOP 775 - 0 percent Jamie Rosemary Safford GOP 729 - 0 percent Kurt E. Rightmyer Ind 724 - 0 percent Sharon Rushford Ind 719 - 0 percent Brian Tracy Ind 712 - 0 percent Robert C. Mannheim Dem 702 - 0 percent Darryl L. Mobley Ind 702 - 0 percent Christopher Ranken Dem 700 - 0 percent Patricia G. Tilley Ind 674 - 0 percent A. Lavar Taylor Dem 658 - 0 percent Michael Jackson GOP 654 - 0 percent Douglas Anderson GOP 650 - 0 percent Joel Britton Ind 649 - 0 percent Alex-St. James GOP 646 - 0 percent Darrin H. Scheidle Dem 640 - 0 percent Bob Lynn Edwards Dem 620 - 0 percent Paul 'Chip' Mailander Dem 598 - 0 percent Paul Nave Dem 581 - 0 percent John W. Beard GOP 578 - 0 percent Ed Beyer GOP 569 - 0 percent Chuck Walker GOP 546 - 0 percent William 'Bill' S. Chambers GOP 534 - 0 percent Robert Cullenbine Dem 526 - 0 percent Warren Farrell Dem 526 - 0 percent     Dennis Duggan McMahon GOP 511 - 0 percent     James M. Vandeventer Jr. GOP 509 - 0 percent     Gerold Lee Gorman Dem 497 - 0 percent     Vip Bhola GOP 493 - 0 percent     Kelly P. Kimball Dem 485 - 0 percent     Eric Korevaar Dem 483 - 0 percent     Mike McNeilly GOP 483 - 0 percent     S. Issa GOP 473 - 0 percent     Bryan Quinn GOP 434 - 0 percent     Gino Martorana GOP 428 - 0 percent     Rich Gosse GOP 420 - 0 percent     Tim Sylvester Dem 415 - 0 percent     Paul W. Vann GOP 392 - 0 percent     Michael Cheli Ind 386 - 0 percent     Heather Peters GOP 370 - 0 percent     Jeff Rainforth Ind 370 - 0 percent     Ronald J. Friedman Ind 357 - 0 percent     Jeffrey L. Mock GOP 348 - 0 percent     Daniel W. Richards GOP 344 - 0 percent     Bill Prady Dem 338 - 0 percent     Scott Davis Ind 327 - 0 percent     Todd Carson GOP 311 - 0 percent     Lorraine (Abner Zurd) Fontanes Dem 310 - 0 percent     Carl A. Mehr GOP 308 - 0 percent     Jon W. Zellhoefer GOP 300 - 0 percent     Gary Leonard Dem 290 - 0 percent     Gregory J. Pawlik GOP 290 - 0 percent     Reva Renee Renz GOP 267 - 0 percent     Kevin Richter GOP 257 - 0 percent     Stephen L. Knapp GOP 251 - 0 percent     William Tsangares GOP 249 - 0 percent     D. (Logan Darrow) Clements GOP 238 - 0 percent     Robert 'Butch' Dole GOP 227 - 0 percent     D.E. Kessinger Dem 206 - 0 percent     Gene Forte GOP 190 - 0 percent     Todd Richard Lewis Ind 171 - 0 percent

Re:Election Results #98 down is Dr Farrell 526 vot (Score:0) by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 08, @06:26PM EST (#7) Ouch!

Not So Bad (e.g., 46th in San Diego County) and... (Score:0) by Anonymous User on Thursday October 09, @03:04AM EST (#9) Don't let the count mislead you. It was low, but given the circumstances, not so bad actually. And there were many successes behind the scenes. First, regarding the count, on election day people saw this race as extremely tight and were scared of giving their vote to a lesser-known. This was even true among men's activists. So the major candidates took the vast majority of votes, and many lesser-knowns were in the hundreds along with Warren. In fact Warren did good in certain counties, like San Diego County (46th place) and Orange County (48th place). That's out of 135 candidates. Most importantly, tens of thousands of people heard the message for the first time. CNN aired two minutes of our fathers' rights rally and an interview with Warren (it aired several times). The National Review printed some great coverage of Warren too. He received a fair amount of radio, TV and newspaper coverage in Los Angeles, San Diego, Sacramento, and elsewhere. Fox 11 News in L.A. aired a good interview of Warren and showed him marching with us holding signs and chanting "men's commissin now!" during one of our smaller rallies. Also, tons of new personal connections arose as a result of this. Many more activists now know each other and many new ones arose. Warren spoke to a group of prisoners about their importance as fathers (they took his message to heart). He spoke before the Young President's Association, a powerful and exclusive group of successful young presidents of large corporations. He spoke before the Kiwanis club, several fathers' groups, and a community group hosted by Earl Ofari Hutchinson (a well-known black activist in L.A.) His website received tons of visits, 400 to a thousand per day for a period of time. And, although he lost money (as expected), two of his books (Father and Child Reunion, Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say) rose in sales since the campaign began. I feel the campaign was very worth it and did far more good than we know. Most of the victories in this movement are behind the scenes. We get to observe only some of them. We need to keep that in mind at all times. Thank you again mensactivism.org for helping out with this important campaign. Marc

Re:Election Results #98 down is Dr Farrell 526 vot (Score:1) by TLE on Thursday October 09, @03:01AM EST (#8) (User #1376 Info) Apparently there are only 526 people in California who think men's rights is an important issue. We have a very steep hill to climb. If we of the male gender refuse to care about our own rights we deserve to be walked on.

Re:Election Results #98 down is Dr Farrell 526 vot (Score:0) by Anonymous User on Sunday October 12, @07:48PM EST (#10) "If we of the male gender refuse to care about our own rights we deserve to be walked on."                         My thoughts exactly.

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