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Seems that feminists are likely to support Huffington, and from what I saw of Farrell's press releases, he's got some good ideas too. If he worked with her, especially as her LT Governor, maybe they'd get somewhere in the race, rather than be a longshot.
"Trust will kill you or set you free." -unknown
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Er, should such a strange union occur, I would expect it to eliminate any support either one of them had. Trust me, feminists won't vote for Farrell, and masculists will not vote for anyone the feminists like.
But such a union would not happen anyway, as the ideologies are incompatible. Hard to have Farrell working to get father's more custody while Huffington is trying to get mothers more custody working as a team. Its for that reason that a person can't rationally be both a feminist and a masculist without a large degree of ignorance.
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So an equalitarian would not be both? Custody is about the child, not the parent. Custody reform is not pro-woman, or pro-man. It is reform, and hopefully will include the shared-parenting plan as an option equal to sole custody for either the mother or the father, pending each situation's specific criteria. I can wish that they (Huffington and Farrell) were both open enough to work together on the others platform issues present in CA.
"Trust will kill you or set you free." -unknown
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"So an equalitarian would not be both?"
That's correct. An egalitarian, (the strange word which means what I believe you intend with the word "equalitarian"), would not be a feminist. Remember, feminism isn't defined by some dictionary claiming it favors equality, nor by a random self-described feminist off the street, but by the words and actions of the most powerful feminist leaders and organizations. IOW, feminism is as feminism does, and despite any claims to the contrary, feminism is very anti-equality.
"Custody is about the child, not the parent."
No, custody is about the child and both parents. Sometimes other people are involved as well.
"Custody reform is not pro-woman, or pro-man. It is reform, and hopefully will include the shared-parenting plan as an option equal to sole custody for either the mother or the father, pending each situation's specific criteria."
I largely agree with that, but feminists consider shared custody to be anti-woman. NOW and other feminist groups have disseminated much propaganda that claims men who fight for custody are probably abusers, which is a complete fabrication. They have fought hard to try and keep father's rights groups from gaining effectiveness. Popular feminist leaders have claimed that the best home for kids is a communal environment of children and mothers, with no men around. Other feminists remain silent on the issue, thus affirming their assent.
" I can wish that they (Huffington and Farrell) were both open enough to work together on the others platform issues present in CA"
Farrell's been trying for years to get feminists to accept him, and for a long time wondered why Steinem would no longer invite him to her parties.
Feminists don't seem likely to accept him or any other men's advocates anytime soon, as evidenced by this post from Cindy Ross, president of the NAFCJ, (a feminist organization trying to capture more than just the 90% custody awards), http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMILYCOURTREFORM/me ssage/15078
She spreads false accusations that Farrell supports incest, mocks the tragic case of a boy who's botched circumcision fully removed his penis, and cheerfully celebrates the suicide of Dr. Richard Gardner.
Why would egalitarians and others in the men's movement want to work with organizations run by people like that, who's goals are in direct opposition to our own?
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=) because getting things done often requires compromise. Thanks, I appreciated this last bit. Very helpful.
"Trust will kill you or set you free." -unknown
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