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by Anonymous User on Saturday August 02, @01:41PM EST (#1)
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Here are selections of what Dr. S. wrote:
"No," I countered, "you are the sperm donor. You didn't create a safe nest for this child by deliberately courting and marrying the woman to be your wife and the mother of your children. You are only a sperm donor.
"So here was the dilemma: A young man obviously regretful that he created his first child on a drunken, one-night stand, and who wants to do the right thing and be involved with his child hears from Dr. Laura that his child would be better off without his intrusion if the mother created a warm, loving family with some man she actually wanted to marry and who loved this kid up and down.
His dream was to have joint physical custody. "What?" I went on, "take this innocent little girl out of her home away from her mother...
He yelled, "It's not my fault."
I yelled back, "Yes, it is. You had anonymous sex and created the situation. You did that and the child pays the price."
"I don't remember if I said my usual, "Thank you for your call." I hate fighting with a caller but, I hate what adults do to innocent children even more."
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My Reply:
Knowing as little about this as Dr. Laura did when she took this call let's put some opposite spin on it using the same sexist hate speech, but let's just have her modus operandi in reverse.
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The bed hoping drunken slut of a mother gets this poor decent guy drunk, knowing she has the law on her side to disembowel this sucker from his paycheck. The sap on waking in the morning knows he's made a mistake, but being a loving caring guy looks forward to having a little child in his lonely life, having something that will motivate and fulfill his Fatherly desire.
As far as the language we are using here: This mother is not a mother, she is just some oven baking a meat loaf, and her job is done when the little meat loaf pops out of the oven. Everybody knows you can still abort a fetus up to full term. So Dads a sperm donor, moms a baking oven, and the fetus is a meat loaf, reducing feminist vernacular to the fullest sense of that vocabulary.
Fast forward through the legal process and NOW this poor shell shocked piece of male meat finds himself raped by a feminazi legal system that cares as little about his humanity as some female talk show hosts.
The child will grow up in the horrible circumstances of a frivolous, unstable mother who spends her child support checks on clothes, cars, booze and further drunken bed hoping sprees. That's bad enough, but this child will go through life without the loving care of a wonderful Father.
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What should have been said to this man:
Dear Sir:
I'm so sorry to hear of your plight, but that is how things routinely work today in nazified america after 30 years of gender feminist law. There is no equal justice under the law if you are a man. If you need compassion and nurturing, you would be better off to find one of the men's groups in your area through the internet and join them. The best interests of the child are irrelevant today. The feminazified government is only concerned with what is in the best interest of their female power base (the good ole prima donna's club).
VICTIMS ARE CHEATED
WHEN ABUSIVE FEMALES
ARE EXCUSED!
and
THE LAW CHEATS
BATTERED MEN AND
REWARDS ABUSIVE
FEMALES
Ray
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"I hate what adults do to innocent children even more."
Oh, really? "Dr." Laura, besides being in her own estimation G-d's gift to the world, is a rabidly enthusiastic proponent of circumcision.
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In a later section she says
The last part of the dream was that my caller would be totally out of the picture.
('My caller' was the man who wanted to be part of his child's life)
The problem here is short term thinking. Even if you accept, for arguments sake, the 'Sperm Donor only' part of the reasoning, in the long term a number of people seek out their biological father.
Why would they do this? This brings to mind all the problems associated with Anonymous sperm donors now starting to arise both for the child and the man.
So, if 'Sperm Donors' were only that there would be no repercussions for the child and all would be well.
Yet this is not the case, therefore it can not be in the long term interests of a child to treat a father as just a sperm donor.
Another opinion from the key board of Westcoast2
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The father is just a sperm donor, but the mother is automatically a "mother"? Schlessinger doesn't even know anything about the mother. What she does know is that the mother's wishes not to be involved with the "sperm donor" are the primary inhibitor to the man being reunited with the daughter - and she (Schlessinger) does not question this stance. She also tells the sperm donor that it's "his" fault for acting irresponsibly and creating this situation. Again, no word of the mother's irresponsibility (no, we don't know that the mother was also drunk and irresponsible, but we don't know that she wasn't, either).
Apparently, going through a pregnancy and giving birth automatically qualifies a female as a responsible "mother". No wonder the pressure lies so heavily on fathers to be the "providers". It's what we have to do to make up for not being incubators.
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She also tells the sperm donor that it's "his" fault for acting irresponsibly and creating this situation.
The mother gave birth to the kid, not him, so she should blame her. Otherwise it's a bit like saying if you get on a plane and it crashes, it's your fault since you got on the plane.
If her intellect vegatated any more, it would take root muhahahaha!
Apparently, going through a pregnancy and giving birth automatically qualifies a female as a responsible "mother". No wonder the pressure lies so heavily on fathers to be the "providers". It's what we have to do to make up for not being incubators.
The other half of humanity loves to attack us through our kids and our sexuality don't they?
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by Anonymous User on Sunday August 03, @02:33PM EST (#5)
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You wrote:
"The mother gave birth to the kid, not him, so she should blame her."
My reply:
You bring up a good point. Now that you mention it there is that commonly known little word that feminists just love to use, "CHOICE." Let's see now (after sexual intercourse) women have all the CHOICE about having a child, and men have NONE, but it's HIS FAULT!
Hummmmmm? Could that kind of thinking be S-E-X-I-S-T B-I-G-O-T-R-Y? The one thing that is crystal clear from this is that some women are terminally irresponsible, and will go to great lengths to rationalize their irresponsibility.
Did I forget to take out the trash again, or is that just the smell of pheminutty reasoning filling the air?
Ray
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by Anonymous User on Monday August 04, @08:27AM EST (#8)
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If HE was drunk and SHE wasn't, then SHE RAPED HIM!! I did not invent this, feminists did. Remember, a drunk (person) cannot consent. So just exactly how can a RAPIST be called anything but criminal?
CPM
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The intrusion! Yeah right.
Okay, several years ago my parents were friends with this other couple, other couple wanted a kid, my parents had three. The husband in the other couple found out he had a sperm count of nil. So my dad donated. As soon as my half-sister was born, the husband in the other couple adopted her and has been her dad. When she was around eight-years-old they informed her that her biological father was my dad. Did this ruin her happy life? No, not at all, and she didn't stop loving the fellow who had been her dad all those years. However, she DID want to know my dad, she DID want to know her biological grandparents, all the details. She was interested in how she has eyes like her mom and hair like my father. I can't say that she loves my dad like a second dad [my dad hasn't seen her in over three years] but it hasn't hurt her in any way to know her family.
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by Anonymous User on Sunday August 10, @08:43PM EST (#9)
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Dr. Laura may be a conservative but WTF does that mean these days?
Point it, why expect any western woman to see the matter of gender equity in reproduction in a fair way (ie, with both child-creating parties being considered in the matter as equal agents with equal rights and interests)? They have no reason to. If one does, it's a testament to her ability to not form values utterly out of self-interest (which is how most people form them, once they understand the matter at hand fully).
I am sure if the pregnant woman wanted to sue him for C/S, Dr. L. would be all for it.
Object lesson: Don't get her pregnant.
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