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No Man Could Do this!
posted by Adam on Friday July 25, @05:17PM
from the WTF? dept.
Censorship Dittohd writes "Tuesday night on Dateline, they did a story about a child who during his first year or two, developed severe and frequent epileptic seizures. Many each day. Doctors tried different drugs and the seizures weren't diminishing. Frustrated, the father did some heavy research and found out about a specific diet (low carb) known about at least 50 years ago to diminish or stop seizures in children) but no doubt isn't readily known or utilized because it doesn't utilize drugs. He took his child to the actual doctor (retired now) who discovered the effects of this diet on child epilepsy. Turns out this diet has a 50%-70% success rate. In this case, it stopped the seizures completely until the child grew out of the problem at 7 years of age. To make a long story short, Hollywood found out about this and did/is doing a movie about this case. Guess who's playing the father. Meryl Streep! MERYL STREEP!!!!! MERYL STREEP!!!! Are we fighting a losing battle???? I still can't believe the chutzpuh!"

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Tell me this is a bad joke. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Friday July 25, @08:25PM EST (#1)
Please. Tell me. It seems like some kind of lame punchline...

What does the REAL Dad think about this?
Re:Tell me this is a bad joke. (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Friday July 25, @08:59PM EST (#2)
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>What does the REAL Dad think about this?

When the interviewer told the father about the movie, he told him that Meryl Streep was playing him with excitement in his voice, as though he should be honored that such a famous actress was playing him.

I don't remember what the father said in response, but there was no anger or incredulity in his voice as I remember it.

Dittohd

Re:Tell me this is a bad joke. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @12:59AM EST (#6)
The name of the movie is First Do No Harm. I believe the father actually knew Meryl and that is how Meryl got involved (I used to know the name of the father but I can't recall at the moment).

Meryl also did a lot of advocacy for the treatment of epilepsy.

It turn out that after the kid was off the diet for a while he relapsed and had to go back on the diet. Last I heard (2 years) we has still on the diet. When the body burns fat it producess a bunch of different fatty acids. It is believed that one of these fatty acids is responsible for reducing seizures. Last I heard, the father had been able to isolate the agent and was looking for funding to attempt to synthesize the agent.

Re:Still On The Diet? (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Saturday July 26, @02:50AM EST (#8)
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>Last I heard (2 years) we has still on the diet.

According to the Dateline program, he's off the diet and doing fine now. He was taken off the diet every two years at ages 2, 4, and 6 without success. Each time he started having seizures again. At 7, they tried again and he'd outgrown the problem at that point.

Dittohd

Re:Still On The Diet? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @01:09PM EST (#12)
According to the Dateline program, he's off the diet and doing fine now. He was taken off the diet every two years at ages 2, 4, and 6 without success. Each time he started having seizures again. At 7, they tried again and he'd outgrown the problem at that point.

That's good news. Thanks for the info.
Re:Tell me this is a bad joke. (Score:1)
by RPB659 on Friday July 25, @10:31PM EST (#3)
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It sounds like they're going to change the story so that it's the mother that gets the child the proper treatment. After all, we can't have any positive portrayals of a father, can we?

Either that or it's the fact that Meryl Streep is an ugly enough woman to easily pass for a man.

Re:Tell me this is a bad joke. (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Friday July 25, @11:07PM EST (#5)
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>It sounds like they're going to change the story so that it's the mother that gets the child the proper treatment.

Exactly. When I posted this story, I didn't mean to imply that Meryl Streep was being dressed up like a man. That's preposterous. Why would they do that? Not enough men in the United States to play a male role?

Dittohd

Re:Tell me this is a bad joke. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @08:31AM EST (#11)
I hear Hollywood are making a movie about the first moon landing in 1969. Many of us remember that momentous day when Nellie Armstrong stepped on the moon with that unforgettable line, "a small step for a woman but a giant leap for womankind". I don't think.
hero mom...it pays more (Score:1)
by Tom on Friday July 25, @11:03PM EST (#4)
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They know they can make more money if they make the mom the hero. It plays better that way.

Was this movie made in 1997? It seems it was made not about the original story but a changed story of a family that lacked resources. This was not the case with the original I think.

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Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Saturday July 26, @03:17AM EST (#9)
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>Was this movie made in 1997?

Whooops! Based on Anonymous'post above, it looks like I misunderstood the Dateline program or they were using a tape of an old program. (No doubt the latter). I just looked up on the Blockbuster website the movie "First Do No Harm" mentioned in the anonymous post above. This title was also the subtitle of the Dateline program.

The movie was made in 1997. Sorry, all this is old news. It still tees me off though.

Dittohd

Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:1)
by Tom on Saturday July 26, @07:09AM EST (#10)
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Dittohd - I don't think the date is as important as the process. The fact is that a father went through a great deal to help and nurture his young child who was not being helped by the medical industry. He went "outside the lines" in order to find an alternative. Hollywood gets a hold of it and reframes it as the mother doing all of this. Why wouldn't they have simply written a script that portrayed a father as loving, nurturing and fighting for his child's well being? Because this culture is biased against men as fathers and prefers to envision them as cold, detached, non-intuitive, unloving and not paying child support. Mothers otoh, who murder their kids at a higher rate, who abuse them at a higher rate, are seen as the ultimate nurturers. We are straitjacketed by stereotypes and this movie plays out that restriction in spades. They chose the plot they did because of MONEY. They knew that if they portrayed a woman as the heroine it would harmonize with the stereotypes and be more popular because of it.


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Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @01:25PM EST (#13)
Dittohd - I don't think the date is as important as the process. The fact is that a father went through a great deal to help and nurture his young child who was not being helped by the medical industry. He went "outside the lines" in order to find an alternative. Hollywood gets a hold of it and reframes it as the mother doing all of this. Why wouldn't they have simply written a script that portrayed a father as loving, nurturing and fighting for his child's well being? Because this culture is biased against men as fathers and prefers to envision them as cold, detached, non-intuitive, unloving and not paying child support. Mothers otoh, who murder their kids at a higher rate, who abuse them at a higher rate, are seen as the ultimate nurturers. We are straitjacketed by stereotypes and this movie plays out that restriction in spades. They chose the plot they did because of MONEY. They knew that if they portrayed a woman as the heroine it would harmonize with the stereotypes and be more popular because of it.

In this case, I think the premise is incorrect. I think Meryl was picked for the part because Meryl was the only one willing to play the part. I too would have liked to have seen the real story, however. I see this as a story with many heroes: Meryl being one.

Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:1)
by Tom on Saturday July 26, @01:40PM EST (#14)
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anon said
    In this case, I think the premise is incorrect. I think Meryl was picked for the part because Meryl was the only one willing to play the part. I too would have liked to have seen the real story, however. I see this as a story with many heroes: Meryl being one.


What premise is incorrect and how is it incorrect?

She was the only one willing to play the part? I'd love to see you prove that one. I would have been very willing to play the part. ;>)

Yes, it is a story with heroes and Meryl plays it is this movie. The point was the sexism leading up to decide for it to change from being a loving father to being a mother instead.


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Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @02:33PM EST (#15)
Nope. You are using "straw man" arguments. While you may have been able to play the part, you would not have been able to attract as much publicity as Meryl did. In fact, the movie would not even exist if Meryl hadn't gotten involved!

Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:1)
by Tom on Saturday July 26, @03:25PM EST (#16)
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You are avoiding the questions posed. This is bad form. Answer the questions.
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Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @04:01PM EST (#17)
I think I did indirectly answer the questions. So I will answer more directly. The premise that there were hidden agendas when THIS movie was made, is FALSE. The movie was made to highlight the fact that doctors were mistreating children with epilepsy by ignoring a very effective method for treating children with epilepsy. I don't know if she was the only one willing to play the part. I do know she was the one who came up with the idea for making the movie. I do know she arranged funding for the movie. And I do know that the movie achieved its purpose extremely well - the diet is now regularly used as a fist line of defense.

Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @04:15PM EST (#18)
Yes, but suppose Meryl Streep wanted to make a movie about a father who horrendously abused his children. She comes up with the idea of making the film. She arranges funding for the film. Do you really believe she would take the starring role? Even if she was willing to play the role, do you realy believe the film would get made? You are right in one respect when you say "there is no hidden agenda", because the film industry makes no effort to hide it's anti-male agenda.
Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:1)
by Tom on Saturday July 26, @04:52PM EST (#19)
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And I suppose you would find it fine for Sean Connery to finance and produce a movie about Mother Teresa and play the leading role as a man. LOL. You continue to miss the point.


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Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @05:02PM EST (#20)
Sorry, I never stated the film industry didn't have agendas. And I agree with men on this board who think the film industry has an anti-male agenda. However, I don't think that is the case with this particular movie.
Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday July 26, @05:36PM EST (#21)
"..I don't think that this is the case with this particular movie."
            You may be right, but I doubt it, given Meryl Streeps feminist credentials. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
                                   
Re:hero mom...it pays more (Score:1)
by scudsucker on Sunday July 27, @05:21AM EST (#22)
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I think Meryl was picked for the part because Meryl was the only one willing to play the part.

Only one willing? That doesn't wash for a second. You're telling me that no male TV actor would take up an uplifting role about a father doing something great for his child? Please. Even if they couldn't get a name brand TV actor, there's plenty of starving ones around that would be happy to be in a Barney movie, much less this one.
Where's the double standard now? (Score:1)
by Hawth on Saturday July 26, @01:24AM EST (#7)
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Meryl Streep - wasn't she the one who gave the university graduation address where she talked about historical bias against women? I wonder if she'd dare contemplate the bias inherent in this role switching?
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