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Divorce Great For Men?
posted by Thomas on Thursday July 17, @04:22PM
from the dept.
Divorce Dittohd writes "Do you all buy this?

Looks like just another feminist-created phony survey that claims just the opposite of what the truth really is.

What does everybody here think? How many here know divorced men who feel they gained financially after the divorce?"

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Yes, it's... (Score:1)
by mcc99 on Thursday July 17, @04:40PM EST (#1)
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... more total hogwash.
A Matter of Perspective (Score:1)
by tparker on Thursday July 17, @05:39PM EST (#2)
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What does everybody here think? How many here know divorced men who feel they gained financially after the divorce?

To society and the courts at present, the important question is "Do ex-wives, legislators and judges think divorced men gained financially after the divorce?" Despite evidence to the contrary, the unthinking response seems to be "yes". The divorced men themselves can't get a hearing on this issue, oddly enough.....

I assume that is a rhetorical question (Score:1)
by Smoking Drive (f8@tpg.com.au) on Thursday July 17, @08:25PM EST (#3)
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or you are in the wrong place.

Those studies are just the academic arm of the political struggle for larger child support, alimony, and property settlement payments.

Oddly they never mention the corollary that getting married is a really dumb move for men.

cheers,
Tim

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More propaganda/language tricks? (Score:1)
by Rand T. on Friday July 18, @01:50AM EST (#4)
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Notice this statement:

"Even fathers fare better because the true cost of bringing up children usually tops what they may have to pay in maintenance contributions."

Think about it carefully. What it costs to bring up children usually tops what fathers have to pay in maintenance contributions. Well, *duh*! Of course it does! Mothers are also required to financially contribute to the cost of child upbringing, not just fathers. This is just a backward way of saying "not all the cost of bringing up children is paid for by the father" - just with a form of phrasing that makes it sound as if fathers are somehow getting away with not paying much.

Also interesting, the word "usually". That means not always does the cost of child upbringing tops what fathers have to pay. In other words, sometimes fathrers pay *all* of it!

oh yeah (Score:1)
by thrudd on Friday July 18, @08:45AM EST (#5)
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"What does everybody here think? How many here know divorced men who feel they gained financially after the divorce?"

I am doing so much better after my divorce. I still have to pay for her healthcare to the tune of $500/month until one of us gets remarried.
Re:Doing Better After The Divorce (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Saturday July 19, @04:42PM EST (#7)
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>I am doing so much better after my divorce. I still have to pay for her healthcare to the tune of $500/month until one of us gets remarried.

1. In what ways are you doing better?
2. Are you doing better because your expenses are less?
3. Are you doing better because you're making more money? Because you haven't got the marriage monetary obligations?
4. Are you doing better because you changed or improved your job or career field after the divorce?
5. Did you have no children?
6. Is the $500 per month your only support obligation to your ex-wife?
7. Does the $500 per month continue indefinitely if neither of you get married again? Even upon your death? This question is valid although it sounds ridiculous. I've read where an ex-husband's executor had to continue paying support to the ex-wife from his estate after his death because the agreement didn't state that it stopped upon his death.
8. If you get married again, you no longer have any support obligations to your ex?
9. What state do you live in?
10. Did you and your wife work this agreement out between you or was it forced upon you by her and her lawyer and the judge?
11. How did your wife's income compare to yours before the divorce?
12. Does your wife's future income, (if it increases by a certain amount),in any way affect the continuation, reduction, or stoppage of your $500 per month support payments?
13. Do you feel that this $500 per month support obligation is fair? Justified?

Sorry for the third degree, but I'm very interested. I imagine others here are too.

Dittohd

Inherent Bias (Score:1)
by hurkle (nosecow@hotmail.com) on Friday July 18, @04:13PM EST (#6)
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Just take a look at this quote - the same one that Rand T. used:
A mother loses the husband's earning power but continue to bear most of the financial burden of bringing up the children.
The unstated, but obvious assumption is that the children are with the mother, not the father - which is why the mother ends up bearing that burden. Regardless of the difference in amounts that are eventually paid, the inherent bias in that article, study and statement depend on the fact that mothers have presumptive custody and get the kids way more frequently than men.
Re:Inherent Bias (Score:2)
by Dittohd on Sunday July 20, @01:06PM EST (#8)
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>A mother loses the husband's earning power but continue to bear most of the financial burden of bringing up the children.

The solution is really simple. Do what's best for the welfare of the children. Award custody to the parent who can afford to support them... without the child support crutch.

Simple.

Dittohd

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