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The statement quoted in the article is actually:
"Every six seconds a woman in this country is raped and/or beaten."
However, if one doesn't look at it too closely, it reads as "Every six seconds a woman in this country is raped."
So, in this misleading way, the total number of rapes is lumped together with the total number of women (supposedly) beaten in a given year, and then reduced to the time period between each incident (rape or beating).
I wonder if the statement "Every six seconds a woman in this country is beaten" is in itself an exaggeration.
Combining something really bad (like rape) with something relatively less egregious (like beating) is like saying 95% of men consume a hamburger or commit murder in their lifetimes.
Steve
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by Anonymous User on Monday June 30, @11:50AM EST (#2)
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I appreciate the calling out of misleading stats, but I found the "sore rape victim" joke out of line.
One of my pet peeves is the "humorous" treatment given to male prison rape in this society, and one of the most infuriating things about it is the knowledge that similar jokes about women getting raped would never be allowed.
But then I see a joke like the one above, and it kinda deflates my argument a bit. In my opinion, it doesn't help us.
Sorry for a lecture that's only marginally on-topic, but I felt I had to respond. Thanks.
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Actually it does help - it points out that mean-spirited jokes about men are "funny" and acceptable, while any joke about women isn't.
Hit you where you live, did it?
How come it's acceptable for women to make these jokes, and unacceptable for men?
Only two ways it becomes right: Either nobody can, or everyone can. Until that is settled, it's perfectly valid to make such jokes at the expense of women - because it's allright to make them at the expense of men.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
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by Anonymous User on Monday June 30, @11:19PM EST (#4)
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Actually it does help - it points out that mean-spirited jokes about men are "funny" and acceptable, while any joke about women isn't.
While I understand your point, let's not be equally vicious and hateful as pheminazis. I would rather just denounce "jokes" about getting raped, including men getting raped, as sick and not funny.
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It is sick. But you know, sometimes the proper response to getting slapped in the face is to slap back.
The look of astonishment these phemwits get when they realize you aren't going to be their whipping boy is a joy. Like any bully, they're that way because we've TAKEN it. I don't take it.
You know, I'm referred to as a woman hater, when in actuality I socially just demand the same in behavior from women as I do men. This is what primarily makes me a woman-hater, AU, is I refuse to accept "female" excuses for bad behavior, absenteeism, tardiness. "PMS" doesn't wash. Take a midol, and be professional. "Sitter didn't show" What a shame - you'll still be here at 8 am as scheduled, right?
I'm not disputing your preference, but when one of my female techs from a while back put a pin-up of a piece of beefcake, I summoned the whole staff, and asked if this meant that the playboy calender was no longer off limits. Honestly, they were astonished that I wasn't going to let the double standard slide. That's what retorting these jokes do - it challenges the double standard. Frankly, I don't find them funny; but the shock value, especially when you say, "Oh, well, with all the `prison bitch' jokes I thought that was the new standard" is beyond price in pointing out the hypocrisy.
People often don't feel your pain until their ox gets gored. And It also can be argued that the humorless repeatition of "That's not funny" is also the punchline of a few stereotypical pheminist jokes (i.e. Q: How many gender feminists does it take to change a light bulb? A: That's not funny.). So, your approach is also a "feminist" one.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
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Good work , Gonzo. I really like a lot of your posts.
I was thinking today about chivilry. I notice that women are opening doors for other women.
I've seen so much rediculousness in the feminist movement it won't suprise me that I will soon see an article about how women are more chivilous than men.
That men are now just brutes with no 'common curtosy' standards and women are the angels of the earth because they are now picking up where men left off.
Of course they'll conveinantly leave out the fact that it was feminists all along trying to destroy chivilry (unless of course it worked to their advantage).
Im all for common curtecy for society as a whole. Imagine that, it would be a good place to start, to bad feminists aren't at all interested in solving the problems of dv, sexual assault or anything else for that matter.
I used to believe in feminism as a good thing. Now I took the time to learn what it was all about. Feminism hates women as much as it hates men. It's a logical assumption given that they want to rid the world of gender alltogther.
I believe this is both a men and women's movement.
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