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''What makes women and girls unique,'' she said, ''is that they are not only criminals. They are criminals and victims as well. The programming needs to address that.''
If they say long enough and loud enough eventually people will believe it.
It is not the Patriarchy that uses rape to control women, it is Feminism, that uses rape to control women.
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FUCKING BULLSHIT will people stop?
sorry about the language, I suppose it's one of those knee-jerk reactions. but it's true and it's evil and wrong. And frightening.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday May 28, @09:27PM EST (#16)
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''What makes women and girls unique,'' she said, ''is that they are not only criminals. They are criminals and victims as well. The programming needs to address that.''
It's a shame people like her, which say these irrational things, are given any power or influence over peoples lives.
You think that blacks and hispanics that turn to crime and gangs aren't victims of poverty and racism?
You think that these male serial killers, which all have fucked up childhoods, aren't victims of their own parents?
You think that these boys that go nuts like at Columbine, aren't victims of mental torment and constant harrassment?
There are many more examples
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Here's what I sent to them:
I found your article "Report says legal system fails girls in trouble" disturbing. It didn't take much creative thought to see the potential for a "two track" justice system with two distinct paths, one for males and one for females. Already the sentencing for males and females shows the anti-male bias of our system but now with two separate systems we can make sexism legal. Treat the girls like they need empowerment, understanding and assistance with their victimhood and treat the boys like the hardened criminals they are!
I hope the intelligent readership of your paper can see this slippery slope clearly and bring the "equality" of the feminists into being by treating each person with fairness and respect irregardless of gender.
Just imagine for a moment that we were suggesting two separate systems for different races! That would be obvious racism wouldn't it? So how is this now sexism?
Stand Your Ground Forum
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday May 27, @03:10PM EST (#4)
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"Wait... All those zero tolerance programs that we feminists put in place because 'there is no excuse for domestic violence' weren't suppoosed to be used against girls who commit domestic violence. What we meant was, 'there's no excuse for male domestic violence'. Society should understand that it is OK for girls to kill men. After all, it isn't really their fault, right?"
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just freeing themselves from the oppressive patriarchy my friend... it's all about freedom and choice.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday May 28, @05:01PM EST (#15)
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Hmmm... Wonder what would happen if a lesbian was accused of domestic violence against her partner, but she claimed that she was the victim and that caused her violence, and she desurved "vehicles to be empowered to control their own destiny"?
... Who would take the blame then? Would they admit to painting themselves in a corner, or put all the blame on some guy who just happened to be passing by?
A mystery... But if it happens, I'm skipping the country.
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"Would they admit to painting themselves in a corner, or put all the blame on some guy who just happened to be passing by?"
You have to ask? Hell, they won't even wait until they are in the corner... they'll place the blame squarely on men simply as a matter of course.
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The question of lesbain DV is an interesting one. The DV industry claims that they don't want men in the shelters because their presence will remind the other female victims of their perpetrator (who they are assuming was a man). This of course is a completely bogus claim but one that has rarely been shouted down. The interesting part is this: they had best not let lesbians into the shelters since ALL of the residents will remind her of her abuser. Right? It's all a bullshit house of cards that will topple over when enough of us start asking questions and demanding answers.
Stand Your Ground Forum
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I know of a couple of cases of lesbian DV where the victim couldn't go to a nearby shelter because her abuser was a volunteer in one, and had friends working at other shelters in the area. It ain't the sex, it's the circumstance that matters.
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you're telling us that the 'victim' couldn't go to a shelter because the 'abuser' worked there and she couldn't go to another shelter (presumably in close proximity) because the 'abuser' had friends there? What kind of screwy nut house operation are those people running?
Oh, never mind: Hard left feminist ideology at work. Skewer the male perp, but love the female perp because she has 'issues.'
Now I can hang up.
Mitchell A. Smith
"An ambiguous perspective is all you can hope for when initially confronted by that which you do not know."
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What kind of screwy nut house operation are those people running?
The finest the world has ever known.
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The finest the world has ever known.
BTW, in case it wasn't obvious, there was a heavy sarcasm implied there.
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Sounds like the situation that feminists are always complaining about with the police "I can't go to the police, they are only uncooperative men, who probably, no, I'm really sure, they abuse their wives too!"
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I wrote a very similar letter to the Globe:
I am writing to express my disgust at the recent article titled "Report says legal system fails girls in trouble." The author of this blatantly sexist piece of feminist propaganda has the gall to define female perpetrators of crimes as victims who apparently should not be held accountable for the crimes they commit. Such nonsense belongs in the pages of radical feminist newsletters, not on the front page of a general circulation newspaper.
I did find this piece enlightening in one sense, however. It outlined quite clearly the feminist commitment to enhancing gender bias in our society. Radical feminists set one criminal standard for boys and men (also known collectively as "rapists," "wife-beaters," and "oppressors"), and another for girls and women (also known as "victims"). And they call this equality? Reminds me of the old "separate but equal" argument another kind of bigot used to make about Jim Crow.
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Don't say "irregardless," man. :)
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i cannot believe a newspaper would run that kind of crap on the front page. victims as well as criminals? a quote of that nature is revolting on it's own, let alone when it is applied to a specific gender.
"I despise you. I despise your order; your laws; your force-propped authority." HANG ME FOR IT!" - louis lingg
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If enough of us send letters to the editor--preferably for publication (give your verification info)--they might get the message. Who knows...they might even print one.
Here's mine:
"Francie Latour's May 27 article is an outrage. A member of the Boston Foundation panel contended that violent girls and women are different from violent boys and men in that females are actually victims, whereas males are only criminals. This is nonsense. A male who commits a violent crime could just as easily be running away from abuse and victimization as a violent female could be.
Another juvenile rights advocate, Francine Sherman, actually had the nerve to complain that we have criminalized the act of a girl stabbing her boyfriend in the arm with a fork. I'd be interested to know whether Sherman would be so forgiving if it was a boy stabbing his girlfriend, or if she'd seek to punish and make an example out of him. I think I know the answer.
We should treat all cases of violence equally, not have two sets of standards based on gender."
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Anyone else have that sensation of brain melt, when the material one is viewing just starts making the brain cells start running out of one's ears in terror?
This is that kind of story. Because I've known stupid, violent people, and I can say that girls are more, just, deadly. I don't know, they have that unique sense of being able to get away with it, that they'll be coddled. Guys are more responsible, or something, even though the wilting wraith of feminist thought in my brain objects, it's true. It's like they understand there's something wrong, even if they have no idea how to handle it, but girls get a power high off of it more often. Just another sleep deprived opinion.
Oh, hey, thomas, I just saw the old thread about the trap of marriage, whatnot, to the youngin's. email me, if you'd like to hear my ramblings.
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Oh, hey, thomas, I just saw the old thread about the trap of marriage, whatnot, to the youngin's. email me, if you'd like to hear my ramblings.
Hey Luna,
Have you consided submitting your thoughts to us as a feature? I think most of us would be quite in interested in your "ramblings" as it were. Of course, this is optional. No pressure at all.
Cheers.
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Hey Luna,
Have you consided submitting your thoughts to us as a feature?
I agree. I've already written to her personally, but I'll make sure she hears about this suggestion. It may be too personal, of course, but I'll let her know others would probably like to hear what she has to say.
Thanks for the idea, Adam.
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It would be nice to see something like that. I think the more women who stand up and say, "Hey, you dumb Pheminist bitches, sit down, shut up, and stop pretending to speak for "all women." You're ruining it for those of us who LIKE to be female" the better.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday May 28, @12:26AM EST (#8)
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I also sent one in (letter to the editor) and I wasn't feeling particularly generous when I did.
Mark
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday May 28, @08:35AM EST (#9)
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One of the problems with the changes proposed in that article, is that despite what we as a society may think, girls are not stupid. What do I mean by that? I mean that if the assholic changes were to be made, sooner than later girls are going to figure out, "Hey...I can stab my boyfriend, and probably not even go to jail for it!", and as even a moron can see, the law soon gets abused.
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"girls are going to figure out, "Hey...I can stab my boyfriend, and probably not even go to jail for it!","
This is exactly right. You can see it today in middle schools where the girls have found that they can hit the boys and the boys can't hit back.
Stand Your Ground Forum
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Gents,
I have a daughter now a Mother of 2 Boys herself. She was 13 and caught the attention of a boy in Grade School. A girl who had a "thing" for this boy threatened to throw acid in the face of my daughter. We went to the School Principal who informed me that this Girl came from a "Good Family" and had been a straight A Student. The Women's Movement has encouraged women even young Girls to become aggressive as Males. Violence initiated by Women has become acceptable in our Culture. This has very negative implications. We are seeing a Tidal Wave of violence by young Women. It is Manifested in the hazing in the Chicago area and murder of young boys by their Mothers. Only Men are Predators according to the Media and the Femanazis. We must fight for our Sons and Grandsons. They are being screwed over and facing even worse treatment than we have dealt with. Time for us to demand equal treatment under the law. Time to stop being nice to our oppressors. The feminazis have been attacking us for FOUR DECADES
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"This is exactly right. You can see it today in middle schools where the girls have found that they can hit the boys and the boys can't hit back."
We need like more teachers like my female friend. Last year, a girl came into her (high school)class declaring she was going to beat the ---- out of some boy, and my teacher-friend told her to settle down. The girl said, "He can't hit me, but I can hit him," and my friend corrected her sternly.
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I ask you, could the double standard possibly be more blatant?
Reach down, guys. Grab 'em. They still there?
It's a sad thing to say, but the only way to fight the double standard is to meet it head on; and dare I say it? Adopt one of your own.
And before you say "The feminists will think we favor men just because they're men..." stow it. They already think it. You're doing the time for it, true or not.
Might as well be guilty of it. God knows they are and are damn unashamed of it. And what has it gotten them? Well, look at our condition vis-a-vis theirs. It's gotten them legal superiority.
Your call.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
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