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I liked how "Fathers and Families" was referred to as a gender equity group, rather than as masculinist or feminist. There's no insinuation that the concerns of one gender outweigh those of the other. There's no insinuation that one gender is better fit than the other to solve problems of sex discrimination.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 23, @03:18PM EST (#2)
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Personaly, I'm just heartened to hear that some folks are indeed begining to wake up and call feminists like Bellamy (or whatever her stupid name is.) on the anti-male stance they hold.
It's past time men re-claimed what is rightfuly ours. our dignity, our honor, our humanity and our basic human RIGHTS!
-Thundercloud.
(to dust off another old chestnut)
"HOKA HEY! It is a good day to die...!"
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"HOKA HEY! It is a good day to die...!"
Hey, Thundercloud. I'm sure not an expert on the language, but "HOKA HEY!" looks Navajo to me. Is the expression "It is a good day to die" from the Navajo nation?
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"HOKA HEY! It is a good day to die...!"
I just did a little checking on the expression. Looks like it's a Lakota warrior cry.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 23, @11:59PM EST (#5)
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Yeah, Lakota or Cheyenne.
We Cherokees are known to use it from time to time, as well.
I believe the saying came as the Lakota, Cheyenne and Arapaho were getting ready to go to battle with General Custer and the Calvary.
We like to think of the "Battle of little big horn" as the worlds first sensetivity training session.
-Thundercloud.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday April 24, @12:05AM EST (#6)
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I amost forgot.
The KLINGONS from "Star trek T.N.G. adopted the saying, on the show. Not "Hoka hey" just "it's a good day to die".
I always felt a little ripped off...,
-Thundercloud.
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The expression "it's a good day to die" shows up in some of the translations of Irish hero tales and in some translations of Chinese writings about the Mongols, too - maybe one of the differences between a warrior viewpoint and a soldier viewpoint?
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Wow! Maybe there's something universal about the saying "It's a good day to die." It would be interesting to know the etymology of the expression. Maybe it's common to warriors and perhaps also to many of those who've decided they have nothing left to lose.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday April 24, @10:44PM EST (#9)
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Well, as far as I know, The Lakota and the Cheyyene are the only ones who said it, for the most part. But Maybe every warrior-society had it's own version.
As far as "haveing nothing else to lose" is conserned, Most of us (Indians) were/are saying that it is a good day to die fighting for what we deeply believe in, hold sacred and know in our hearts is right and true. We believe that if you must die for the traditions that we hold, the women, the children, our elders, our religion and all that we value, then it is worth paying the price of one's life to preserve these things. As a traditional Cherokee I hold these beliefs, myself.
But I extend the sentiment to all wronged people as well as other Indians and my own tribe.
As an Indian activist I believe in the saying, and as a men's activist I believe in the saying.
Such a proclaimation is never said lightly.
-Thundercloud.
"HOKA HEY!"
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by Anonymous User on Friday April 25, @11:59AM EST (#10)
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Friends:
Go To http://www.cwfa.org/main.asp
Go To: CWA at United Nations
Go To: Click here for Commission highlights
Go To Days: 4, 6, 8, & 10 for a passionately charged exchange of viewpoints. It just might make your day.
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