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This is the same guy to whose work I posted some links in "Gender War, Sexuality, and Love" a few days ago, another excellent essay I'd missed on his site, thanks for the link.
Actually, I'd say it's amazingly brief for the ground it covers: far better than I could have done for 50 years of history I've lived through. Born in 1943, childhood in a "traditional" family with a WWII veteran father who had plenty of reason to be "emotionally absent" while he did his best to support his family in a world he never made (and who died relatively young from his life wounds), Vietnam war "draft-dodger" (I went to Canada, expecting never to return), Haight-Ashbury hippie and drug dealer, I remember "never trust anyone over 30" -- until I passed 30 myself, which was a lot sooner than I expected. I remember when I thought feminism was -- mostly, anyway -- a good thing, and looked forward to the Better World for All it vaguely promised.
Married briefly in my 20s, unhappily alone since then while I've been working out my own demons, it's taken me a long time to realize that my relationship difficulties might not be entirely due to the monumental defects in my own character which females have so kindly and relentlessly pointed out to me all my life. When I was young, the problem was mostly I was too shy and uncertain to get the girl; now it seems I'm a compulsive rapist, despite not having had any sex to speak of for decades. Hard to keep up with what I'm guilty of this week.
Being a man, of course I'm not all that swift, but by my 50s it had indeed become apparent to me "that the agenda of the movement was not to elevate women, but to tear down men." And I'm tired, way tired, of being torn down -- which started, I finally realized, on the day of my birth when part of my body was torn off to satisfy women's neurotic phallophobia (don't know if that's a real word, but it ought to be).
Will women ever wake up? A good question. Never before, so far as I know, has the irrational schizophrenia at the base of the female mind been allowed to manifest itself so fully; until now it's always been contained and masked by the "oppressive patriarchal" cultural system, whose primary raison d'être was in fact to do just that, and thus prevent women from destroying themselves -- and, of course, civilization in general. The ancient Greeks understood this; read Euripides' Bacchae (better yet, see the play, as I was fortunate to do a few years ago): Woman unrestrained will eat her own children without even knowing she is doing so (not until later, at least). Feminists are outraged by the etymology of the word "hysteria," but it's apt. The tragedy is, by the time she realizes what she's done, it's already done, and can't be undone. Thus do great civilizations fall.
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday April 22, @03:12AM EST (#2)
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I just realized that if feminism ever truely DOES manage to destroy civilization, They will blame it's fall on men...,
That's how they operate.
-Thundercloud.
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I just realized that if feminism ever truely DOES manage to destroy civilization, They will blame it's fall on men.
You crack me up, Thundercloud. Good point.
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday April 22, @10:05PM EST (#7)
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Thomas.
Thanks.
I'm glad I can cheer folks up, on occasion, in these dark times.
-Thundercloud.
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It's a wonderful article! If any of you guys have not perused the website...please do. Here's another article from the same site entitled "How it all fell apart". geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3951/fallapart.html
Thundercloud, you're guaranteed to get a rise out of this one!
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday April 22, @10:30PM EST (#8)
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((("Thundercloud, You're guaranteed to get a rise out of this one!")))
Appearantly, Tor, You know me fairly well.
I definatly DID. (get a rise out of it.)
Thanks for the link.
BTW, the article on "male-bashing/ Male-hatred" was an interesting read, too.
-Thundercloud.
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I just realized that if feminism ever truely DOES manage to destroy civilization, They will blame it's fall on men.
And remember, for those who like to yabber about good feminists and bad feminists:
99% of feminists give the rest a bad name.
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday April 22, @03:23AM EST (#3)
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In the essay written, He refers to some of the members of the American-Indian movment (A.I.M.).
He got Leonard Peltier's name right, But not "Dennis Means". He is referring to two different men. RUSSELL Means and Dennis BANKS.
Not knit-picking, but our people (American-Indians) have to deal with alot of mis-information about us, out there.
At least this guy's was UN-inentional.
Sorry, Just needed to clear that up.
-Thundercloud.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 23, @04:34AM EST (#11)
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Thanks for the correction, Thundercloud. I'll get a corrected version of the essay posted in a few days.
-zenpriest
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I suggest you read ALL of Zen Priest's writings on feminism and men taking back their rights; this guy is BRILLIANT, and he should write a book-- he's the ONLY guy who knows the true science and sociology behind development of feminism and male-bashing, and how to end it, who has the cajones to say so without fear of being politically incorrect and becoming a target of rabid radical feminism (or "RadFem" as he calls it).
I can't find a more thorough or definitive treatment of how men are being screwed by both traditional treatment of men in industrialized society, and feminism which seeks female utopia at men's expense, and even blames men for reality.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday April 23, @01:08AM EST (#10)
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Tulkas.
Why shouldn't the feminists blame men for reality?
Men seem to be the only ones who have a grip on it, these days.
-Thundercloud.
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"Why shouldn't the feminists blame men for reality?"
Because reality is NOT a "male concept," as they put it.
Anytime the RadFems come up against logic or facts, they simply attack the concept of such things being "patriarchal concepts," thus allowing them to demand their whims by their OWN brand of "feminist logic," which basically means whatever they wish at any time (consistency is likewise traditional "patriarchal thinking").
This has created the problem of men trying to accomodate this type of thinking to gain their approval, which is basically no different than a parent accomodating a child's reasoning to gain the child's love.
It's time men began to practice some "tough love" and lived up to their responsibility as the dominant gender of setting boundaries and enforcing them-- knowing that women will always try to erode them with logical fallacies, mainly appeals to emotion-- instead of this tired game of "equality--" it's never worked to bring about a more satisfactory result for both sides, and as it rule it CAN'T work.
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