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Thanx for the article. I think a lot of people misread her previous one here. My perspective is that her previous article was merely to demonstrate that feminism has brought women mostly nothing but unhappiness, it was not anti-male nor men are less rhetoric. Erin's work is exemplary in her sphere.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday April 10, @07:54PM EST (#2)
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Even though the artical was written about three years ago, it may as well have been written today.
Erin's preceptions and inside knowledge of the Feminazis is amazeing!
She is definatly FRIEND not FOE!
'Long read, But a great one!
Thanks Thomas!
Thundercloud.
(I have enough aggravation...)
(But Erin Pizzey isn't one of them.)
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If you want to absolve the individual of responsibility for discerning right from wrong.
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I really have to question the rational objectiveity of any man who fails to see this for what it is; transferrence of culpability for one's own discipicable actions to someone else.
If Ms. Pizzy-pants wants to make the point that women lack men's inherent capacity to discern right from wrong, and that they are blind sheep who do whatever someone tells them, being so easily beguiled and convinced to do the wrong thing at the behest of a few radical feminists
-- well that's fine, but let's say so, and not mince words; after all, the only logical conclusion possible to such an argument for denial of female responsibility, is "estrogen-diminished capacity."
However, I SINCERELY doubt that this is her point; rather, she simply wants to blame the founders of radical feminism for the misandrist attitudes, actions and sentiments of every woman guilty of such. This type of "the strawman did it" argument is famous for pinning the sins of the many, on a few hate-mongers, to allow inner peace and absolution for those who confuse a clear conscience with a short memory-- particularly after her self-pitying article on how it's the "innocent" women perpetrators, not their male victims, who are truly deserving of sympathy simply for being the targets of the well-earned resentment of such while the "true" blame goes to those few radical feminist leaders who TOLD them to commit and harbor acts and attitudes of pure misandry.
Legally, this is know as "the Eichman defense," which didn't stand up at Nazi trials at Nuremberg in 1946, and it won't save femi-nazis now; specifically, you can't have freedom without first accepting responsibility-- rather, such a situation would fall under the definition of a "carte blanche," i.e. a "blank check" to do as you please without price or consequence-- which is exactly what Erin Pizzy is arguing when taking her sentiments to their logical conclusion, i.e. that women are just irresponsible children who are too helpless and impressionable to be held to blame (but still should have all the same freedoms and priveleges as men).
That's logic.
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Incredibletulkas wrote:
"However, I SINCERELY doubt that this is her point; rather, she simply wants to blame the founders of radical feminism for the misandrist attitudes, actions and sentiments of every woman guilty of such."
I think that you are missing the focus of what Erin was trying to express. Erin does not try to generally exculpate women for misandrist attitutes and actions by shifting the focus and blame to the founders of radical feminism. She is simply identifying the root cause of todays' problems. Women are raised and taught misandry from a very early age, radical feminism ideology and dogma is the source indoctrination. If past history was different, women could have been raised to respect and cherish men. In our nation's dark past white people kept and owned slaves and thought nothing evil about it. They were raised to believe that that was ok. Black servitude was expected and unquestioned by generations of whites (men and women)because of the way they were raised. To be sure, they were guilty of horrendous human carnage. How they could be so evil needs deeper analysis of the indoctrination and ideology of that time. If they were raised with different values and social ideas, they too would have been horrified at the sight of slaves and slavery. That they were not is a reflection of the culture in which they were born. Otherwise, one has to conclude that the majority of white people are simply evil to the core BY NATURE. They are not. In that sense, the slaveowners too were victims. Victims of an ideology and social structure that produced monstrous slave owners who lost their souls to the devil.
Erin is not excusing the harmful and evil misandrist attitutes and actions of women. In a philosophical sense as adults we are all 100% responsible for all our actions 100% of the time. But, in the real world the way we are is largely due to the way we were raised. Erin's article simply serves to demonstrate how and why todays attitudes and problems arose, the root cause of humanity gone amuk. Our women could have been raised to be sharing, loving, respectful coinhabitants of the world in which we live. They were not. Erin tells a story describing the seeds of all our destruction.
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Our women could have been raised to be sharing, loving, respectful coinhabitants of the world in which we live. They were not. Erin tells a story describing the seeds of all our destruction.
Well put. Very well put.
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"I think that you are missing the focus of what Erin was trying to express. Erin does not try to generally exculpate women for misandrist attitutes and actions by shifting the focus and blame to the founders of radical feminism."
I don't know if you didn't read her last article, or simply forgot; however, she EXPLICITLY states that the women are "innocent," and simply blames the radical feminist hatemongers.
Sorry, but I'm not letting them off the hook that easily, however I suspect that too many men are doing just that in the hope of selling out their principles (and other men) for poon-tang, as I see so often by spineless hypocrites. Fortunately, such ankle-grabbers incur poetic justice in reaping just what they sew by dropping their boundaries in a cowardly attempt to appease and accomodate-- just like the French with Hitler and Hussein.
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"Black servitude was expected and unquestioned by generations of whites (men and women)because of the way they were raised. To be sure, they were guilty of horrendous human carnage. How they could be so evil needs deeper analysis of the indoctrination and ideology of that time. If they were raised with different values and social ideas, they too would have been horrified at the sight of slaves and slavery. That they were not is a reflection of the culture in which they were born. Otherwise, one has to conclude that the majority of white people are simply evil to the core BY NATURE. They are not. In that sense, the slaveowners too were victims. Victims of an ideology and social structure that produced monstrous slave owners who lost their souls to the devil."
Thank you for living up the liberal mindset I just fininshed outlining ala "there are no, perpetrators, only victims of hate" in a communist plot to destroy freedom by eliminating responsibilty.
However, this is a blatant non-sequitur in attempting to equivocate slavery with misandry, since slavery had been the status quo throughout history to that date, while feminist misandry has been a relatively new phenomenon which is more akin to nazism-- and in principle even far worse than nazism in that it was based on pure hate, and not the slightest hint of a reign of terror save of the maligned male gender.
As such, we must either conclude that women are, by nature, the biggest DUPES in history, or else that they are to be excused for such behavior since they're "special" etc.
Sorry, but equality means EQUAL, and that doesn't really fit the dictionary definition-- oh that's right, Noah Webster was a MAN.
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I must also recall the words we all heard our President speak to Iraqi soldiers in the past 3 weeks:
"You WILL be tried held accountable for your acts of inhumanity; and you will NOT be able to say that you were 'just following orders.'"
--By George!
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by Anonymous User on Saturday April 12, @02:49AM EST (#10)
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I hope those words extend to him and his cabinett as well...
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Erin Pizzey's extensive experience working with domestic violence victims and perpetrators has given her valuable insight into the psychopathologies that underlie the problem. In this long but insightful essay Erin analyzes the psychology of female perpetrators to whom she refers as "family terrorists."
I think this is a good read for both men and women who are in relationships involving any form of DV. Erin's experience, knowledge, and fair-mindedness shine through.
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It takes real fortitude to speak out against the femifascist movement for decades, weathering protests and picketers and hecklers.
It is becoming increasingly clear to me that the femifascists are basically militant lesbian communists. They want their every need to be cared for - the state becomes Big Sister. They want men and the family out of the picture so that they can have a larger pool of young women to have sex with. For those with a ticking biological clock, men will be brought in on occasion to donate sperm. Then they will be bound for as long as possible to act as infinite cash machines.
It is a sort of globally enforced sexual predation. They prey on girls and women who may or may not have lesbian tendencies, and turn these wherever possible into femifascist soldiers and love toys. They prey on boys and men by mutilating them in their infancy, thus devaluing their right to personal sovereignty, and later on forcing them to endure abuse by females and then finally tapping into their wallets. These advanced predators may amount to a small part of our population, but their voices are loud enough to influence the masses.
SAY NO TO THE AMAZON WORLD-NATION! SUPPORT THE SPERM CARTEL!!!
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I think it runs deeper than that. I feel that as soon as they do away with man, as the male of our species is probably their only real threat. They will then turn on women. Subjugate them and extinguish them as they see fit.
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Exactly Dan! That's why they are feminazis. If the nazi's were successful in eradicating Jewish and black people they would have turned on a different group to blame and extinguish. When only the nazi's themselves were left they would have turned upon their own ranks. First killing off those who not have blue eyes, then those who did not have blond hair, then those who were not Bavarian etc, etc...till no one was left or safe. The term feminazi is not a misnomer, it's fitting. A hate group simply hates and blames, blames and hates.
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"A hate group simply hates and blames, blames and hates."
IF it starts there it finishes there. Thats all they learn.
Which means they won't have the skills to stop hating. And, they will be so good at it, what they will do to women in years to come will make what they did to men look like a picnic. I gurantee it.
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what they will do to women in years to come will make what they did to men look like a picnic.
I've got a lot of respect for your opinions, Dan, but here I will differ.
Why?
Because we're gonna stop 'em.
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"Because we're gonna stop 'em."
Right on brother!
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Erin is one of the warmest friendliest woman I know.
She may have made a few mistakes. But I can tell you that her concern for the well being of men is equal to that of women.
I'd be happy to walk away with just a few of the things she's done to better our lives (men and women).
If there is ever a woman I would recomend to give speaches to the Police, lawyers, judges, family groups, shelters etc... it's her.
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"Erin is one of the warmest friendliest woman I know.
She may have made a few mistakes. But I can tell you that her concern for the well being of men is equal to that of women."
I know you are right Dan. I am very familiar with her work. While some here have overly scrutinized the nuance of every word in her articles, the fact remains that if every women were like Erin Pizzey the present gender related problems would hardly exist. Our society would be much better and healthy, marriage a desirable union to be in.
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She (Erin Pizzey) may have made a few mistakes. But I can tell you that her concern for the well being of men is equal to that of women.
Right on, brother!
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