|
This discussion has been archived.
No new comments can be posted.
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Free Clara Harris!
Very interesting view you have taken in this column. I think you're right! In fact, my soon to be ex-wife, who has cheated on me with another woman for 3 years and who still lives in our home with our children, is attending a luncheon for some charity, or maybe she's shopping at the mall again. I can't remember anymore. Anyway, afterwards she says she's going out with the girls. Hmmm. I think I'll pay a visit to what's her name's house this evening. I'll stop off and pick up the kids along the way. If she's with that woman at that woman’s house, I'll run my Suburban into my wife's Bravada (all American buyers, are we) and, hopefully, I won't hit my wife (or that other woman, who is equally evil) at the same time.
But if I do, I'll just tell them you said it was ok. I'll just substitute my name for Clara Harris and presto! Free Mitchell Smith!
Thanks, Joseph, for such an insightful and well thought out article. I look forward to reading more of your work in my children's Highlights magazine, but not until I solve this month's damn Hidden Pictures mystery that they have so cleverly pieced together. Have you found the cheese yet?
Mitchell A. Smith
"An ambiguous perspective is all you can hope for when initially confronted by that which you do not know."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Does the guy actually write for HIGHLIGHTS?
I actually respect HIGHLIGHTS.
bg
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
No, he doesn't supply Highlights with any product of his feeble mind. I enjoy Highlights as well. Gosh, I'm sorry Highlights. Your magazine didn't derserve to be brought down to this person's level.
My most sincere apologies.
Mitchell A. Smith
PS. Bet he can't find his own cheese!
"An ambiguous perspective is all you can hope for when initially confronted by that which you do not know."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Tuesday February 11, @10:21PM EST (#15)
|
|
|
|
|
It's only OK for women to murder men, not the other way around.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Wednesday February 12, @10:44PM EST (#21)
|
|
|
|
|
(((It's only OK for women to murder men, not the other way around.")))
Yeah, That does, indeed, seem to be the case, AU.
By the way, Has any one else heared Clara Harris' lawyer talking about how Mrs. Harris SHOULD have handled the situation?
She (the lawyer) said that Mrs. Harris should have; "done what most American women do when they find their husbands cheating on them. Take them to the cleaners. Take away his money, his house and his kids!"
Now, as far as I'm conserned, This sounds like an insider's view of the "family" court system.
It seems to me, whether this lawyer meant to or not, she revealed that in reality, it is allready a fore-gone conclusion that the mother will ALWAYS get custody of the children.
I think her 'Freudian slip' is showing.
If anyone can get a tape of her saying that, we might be able to use it in the future as evidence that the "family" courts are, indeed, BIASED against fathers.
Thundercloud.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Free Clara Harris?
Might happen yet. As I write, the jury is in a heated discussion of what sentence to submit to the judge.
The jury has a choice, ranging from life, to probation.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
As of 4:53 p.m. CST, live, Harris has been sentenced by the returning jury after a heated 6-hour discussion, the jury of 9-women and 3-men.
Harris is sentenced to 20-years in a special department of the Texas Criminal Justice System.
The courtroom reporter for the live radio, stated that the jury would have been more favorable if there had been MORE men on the jury. Men have been FAR more favorable toward women, than female jurists are.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Saturday February 15, @11:59AM EST (#36)
|
|
|
|
|
"the jury would have been more favorable if there had been MORE men on the jury. Men have been FAR more favorable toward women, than female jurists are."
It is the inate courtship behavior of the adult male to display his protective prowess and strength and thereby attract the maximum number of females for mating and propagation of the species.
Let us hope the the average "male dope" of a biological specimen is begining to see that the pecker he thinks with is not always the most effecacious guide to the survival of the species. This unfit female is a danger to any man, any offspring, and any other female. She is a menace to society, and she is way beyond any inate male abilities to fix things and make things right. It is in the best interest of any child, any man, any female, and the entire species to put battering, murdering females like this away from the rest of us and let society bear the burdern for the monsters they have helped create, primarily with their sexist feminist laws.
Sincerely, Ray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Friday March 21, @10:55PM EST (#44)
|
|
|
|
|
I don't necessarily agree with what Clara Harris did but her husband was a JERK. He abused her mentally, emotionally, and I would daresay, physically. This is a woman who was mentally unstable due to his confabulations and manipulations and adulterous attitudes. The sad thing is that there was no legal punishment for what he was doing, despite the great damage it was doing to another person's mind and despite the fact that it irrevocably hurt his children, two little twin boys.
AS A WOMAN, I think that Clara Harris should have been acquitted. No, I don't hit my husband or beat him up or abuse him verbally or any other way, but if I found out that he was purposefully, consistently, and intentionally deceiving me, I can't say that I wouldn't snap and do something out of character myself.
I think Clara Harris should have her case overturned on appeal and I think that anyone who posts here and doesn't comment on the fact that what her husband did was WRONG is also one of those who sees things only their way.
Lastly, it takes TWO to have an abusive relationship -- NEVER forget that!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Will any court hold these despicable creeps like Joseph Farah accountable for their hate? These monsters have absolutly no regard to a man's life and should be prosecuted for hate crimes.
PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Wednesday February 12, @10:52PM EST (#22)
|
|
|
|
|
This Farah guy sounds like the typical Wussy-poopie, to me.
Guys like that ALWAYS try to show how much they care about women, by showing how much they hate their own gender. Yeah, this guy is probably a classic case. A snivleing, groveling, uncle Tom.
The media LOVES this kind of guy.
...Which is why there are so many of them IN the media...!
Thundercloud.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
In his "Free Clara Harris" article
{http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30 762}
the creep (Joseph Farah) has shown his compassionless
and despicable nature by blaming David Harris who was brutally
murdered by his wife and also praising the murderer. No reporter
would dare to blame a female victim of violent crime, but at this
time it is acceptable for misandrist reporters to spew constant
stream of hate against men -- even victims of brutal crimes.
The creep claims to be religious, but he praises someone
who violated "Thy Shall Not Kill." The creep almost calls for more
blood: "I say: Free Clara Harris. We need more women like her."
Unlike Joseph Farah and many other hate-mongers we (being
civilised humans) do not condone anything illegal. But we need to
bring ACCOUNTABILITY to spewers of hate like Joseph "The Creep" Farah
in legal ways. We should prosecute them on anti-hate laws. When
they advocate murder, we should take them to court for criminal
solicitation.
PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"We should prosecute them on anti-hate laws."
If possible, I agree. Madonna for her video "How it Feels for a Girl" in which she shows women having fun driving around and running over men too. Who wants to spearhead the lawsuit?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
This man is the *OWNER* of his web site and "CEO" too. You are not dealing with an "organization" but with a man who offers opinions for money to newspapers. Have you not yet learned what the rich and powerful think of poor white men? They do not *BUY* opinions that do not confirm their own.
I.e. it is a waste of effort to contact a "man" like that.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I used to read WorldNetDaily regularly for their non-mainstream, "conservative" slant on the news, but eventually became tired of their knee-jerk hypocrisy. WND is as "conservative" as Rush Limbaugh, which is to say, only in the sense that they're in favor of everything "how it used to be." They have no more real principles than the liberals.
Farah is a Lebanese Christian, first- or perhaps second-generation immigrant. He is opposed to the United States meddling in other countries' affairs (a conservative position)--uh, except when in comes to the Middle East, where he is rabidly pro-Zionist and hot for any U.S. interference that gets back at his ancestral enemies, i.e. Arab Muslims, whom he considers less-than-human.
And, as we see, he is equally unthinking in his approach to this sort of issue. Though I agree with him regarding the present collapse in moral values, he is apparently unable to comprehend that women may have had any hand in that collapse. He's an excellent example of why I don't see feminism as something new, but only the latest, perhaps most insane, manifestation of the power that women have always had, and used. The truth is, females own and run the world; males, created by females, are used: as front men, fall guys, and whipping boys.
This story is really about a cat-fight between two women over a piece of meat: the man, who hardly seems to have been worth it. He was what his mother, and a century of feminism, made him. Feminism is all about self-gratification; like all the morally flabby men these days, he was just following the lead of those who define the culture's values: the women.
Interestingly, WND has received a good deal of negative response to Farah's articles on Clara Harris; see their letters column. To their credit, they do print such responses, which Farah does elicit fairly often. Some other WND columnists are much better reads: try Joel Miller, Walter Williams.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
P.S.: Oh, and Farah is married, by the way, with three or four daughters, I believe. Can't you tell? He's a good, traditional husband.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I, too, regard myself as a good, traditional husband, and this man's point of view turns my stomach, in case that wasn't clear from what I wrote in my submission.
Frank
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I just read the article you wrote about the Clara Harris case. I had several problems with the piece. Your goal was to make readers sympathize with Clara and not her husband. So you played the obvious hand of personalizing the wife, giving background information, calling her by name, empathizing with her, even putting up her picture. The husband, however, is doomed from the start. All we are told is his profession.Other than that he is only referred to as "creep" and other simplistic names. Do you think so little of your readers and your actual opinion that you feel the need to resort to such obvious and clumsy debate tactics?
You also got at least one fact wrong. The girl in the car with Mrs. Harris was HIS daughter, not hers. I suppose if you actully admitted this it would shift some sympathy to him; he would be a father, not a nameless monster.
The problem is that Clara Harris is a murderer. Period. She made choices, which included murder, and in this country that means she committed a crime. We do not know the reasons this man cheated. We do not know what their marraige was like. She could have been an awful wife who treated him so poorly she practically drove him into another's arms, or she could have been a wonderful wife. Those conversations she claims they had about her faults are heresay. We do not know, and for you to make such a strong statement without the facts shows extreme ignorance.
If she had been having affairs on him, and he ran her over, would you be writing this article? I doubt it. Think about that.
Sincerely, Jen K**
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Wednesday February 12, @11:00PM EST (#23)
|
|
|
|
|
Jenk.
Well said.
Oh, and lest we forget.
Mr. Harris is generaly identified, in the media, as Mrs. Harris' "Cheatin' husband."
No..., No bias in OUR media, is there?
Thundercloud.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You're right Thundercloud, I don't think I've read anything about this case that doesn't go out of it's way to constantly refer to him as a cheating husband, usually far more times than could possibly be necessary.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
in regards to Philalethes
I must say that many of your points have been well taken, thoughtful and right on compared to many that I have read on this site.
However, we do depart when you blame all of societies (mens) ills on women....We (a man and a woman) are given children to guide not to be obiedent like animals. The best that we can hope for is that our children will be healthy, right thinking, productive members of society. Correct me if I am wrong, weren't Mr. and Mrs. Harris in the courtroom and didn't they testify for their daughter-in-law and not for the defence? They certainly did not approve of his morals!
It is pure unadulterated selfishness that leads any person to cheat, lie, or steal. Mr. Harris is simply a common person who put him self in the potiental line of fire. He knowingly played the unknown, the potiental. Think of him as sordid activities coordinator.
Mrs. Harris played right into his hands.
She should have never taken the child with her. I am both sympathetic and suspect of Miss Lindsey's agenda and her mothers motions to control Daddy's money.
I do not know what the rules of play are for Private Investigators. But, I cannot help but feel that there may be culpability for divulging his whereabouts develpoing the room for
potiental.
Fellas up until 1974 a man could be no billed in the state of Texas for killing a man who was found with his wife. Right for women and not for men, please.
Furthermore, what majority is in control of the law making process, who writes the laws that we all abide by...mostly men!
This is the first time that I have ever visited the site and all I see is the anger....oh my.
I am sorry for all y'all there is no compassion.
What ever happened to Judge not lest ye be? Walk a mile in ones moccasins.
My heart goes out to the families of all involved.
My heart goes out to Mrs. Harris that she will be healed of this affair that was full of wrongness. And, I hope this serves as a warning to those who think about being a cheat!
Look how much a little stray has cost so many. And it all started with a woman coming on to a married man. Wrong of her. Wrong of him.
Artemisia Gray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Furthermore, what majority is in control of the law making process, who writes the laws that we all abide by...mostly men!
Wrong. Where on earth did you get the (incorrect) notion that men are the majority?
Women are the majority of voters. Fundamentally, women (the majority) are the government. The men and women in the government are the employees of the majority (women) of voters. They aren't stupid. They KNOW it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
This is the first time that I have ever visited the site and all I see is the anger....oh my.
Men have a lot of reason to feel anger.
You go, men!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I am sorry for all y'all there is no compassion.
You are blinded by self-superiority. There is a great deal of compassion here, AND a desire to do more than posture as mister mellow.
Am I angry. Actually, I'm moving beyond it. But I won't submit to either the nouveau Mr. Mellow or to feminist hate.
We're at war. Figure it out.
Or keep making your self-superior noise. Whatever.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Yep, saw it covered on TV last night while running on the treadmill at my gym on whatever "news show" she is on. Connie never once brought up how differently this case was being handled had the sexes been reversed. Instead she seemed to focus on the fact that the man's parents took the stand in the defendant's defense and went on and on about what a wonderful person she was such a good daughter-in-law. Connie remarked that this was a truly remarkable thing to be watching. What may have been their motivation, I don't know.
I do know this. The law is very clear on this matter: the only time you get off for murdering a spouse due to infidelity is if you catch them *in the act of being unfaithful* (ie, screwing someone else right then and there) and you did not know or suspect at all that they were having an affair with someone else before finding them. That is the only 'crime of passion' standard that is defensible.
But then again, juries have been known to do some weird things. They are as we all know moved largely by their emotions. The facts of the case appear to be that the victim was having an affair (or was he? I dunno for sure-- does anyone?) and that his wife believed he was doing so. After seeing what she took to be proof of this (but not actually catching them in the act of infidelity), she ran over him-- twice-- thereby killing him. Reportedly, according to her own daughter (or is it step-daughter?), she remarked that she could kill her husband and get away with it-- and then killed him with their Mercedes (which I am willing to be he bought with his money, too). Yes, her daughter took the stand for the prosecution.
She looks guilty of murder to me.
But then again, she is female and he was male and having an affair on her. So they just may let her off. In misandronist Amerika, does anyone expect that in this case an equal standard will be applied to women's behavior vs. men's? Does it surprise anyone here that in many contexts, there will be one standard for women's behavior (violent or otherwise) and another for men's (to the detriment of men no less)?
And people wonder why I am single.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Wednesday February 12, @11:13PM EST (#24)
|
|
|
|
|
mcc99.
I don't wonder why you're single.
I can guess why! And I'm with ya all the way, brother.
BTW, does anyone else feel a bit un-settled that the jury make-up of this trial is 9 women to 3 men?
Fair trial? The way so many women OPENLY feel about men, in our time..., I have to say, I have my doubts.
Like I said before, Mrs. Harris will either get a lame sentance, or cut loose all together.
Either way, I doubt any of us should look for REAL justice to be done.
Thundercloud.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, at least they found her guilty; we'll see what the sentence turns out to be...
I thought this comment from the prosecutor (and msn.com) was a bit over the top. Basically what she's saying is that C.H. was stupid for not getting a really good divorce lawyer and draining him dry to the point where he might have committed suicide.
"Prosecutor Mia Magness argued Wednesday that Clara Harris simply could have divorced her husband and “taken him to the cleaners” but chose to kill him instead." (emphasis mine)
* MB
-------------------------------------------------- ----------
/* Not All Men Are Fools -- Some Are Martian Bachelors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You bet the parents did testify in court! They did not approve of the philandering ways of their son.
Up until 1974 in the state of Texas a man would be no billed for killing a man engaging in sexual theft with his wife. Was there a reciprocal law for women no! What are you fellas carping about, the fact that you can't legally kill any more?
Her stepdaughter did testify that Mrs. Harris did say these things. This from a daughter whos last words to her father was "I hate you, I hate you, I hate you". This was on location at the hotel lobby!
Mrs. Harris who is a dentist and had her own very successful office. She married a man also a dentist who had been fired from a Dental chain in Houston. He then started his new practice and they merged! She had her own money. tada! Regardless, when in a marriage it is all the same till.
Yes, she murdered him.
Yes, she has been penalized.
What in the world are you guys complaining about?
Oh, on the single thingy. I couldn't agree with you more!
I paid for my Mercedes myself!
Artemisia Gray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Tuesday February 11, @08:46PM EST (#12)
|
|
|
|
|
Free Clara Harris? For what, a date with O.J.?
Ray
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Free Clara Harris? For what, a date with O.J.?
Gawd, Ray. That was great. Thanks. Still chuckling, I think I'll go workout now.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
After I first read Mr. Farah's article about a week and a half ago, I sent him the following e-mail: Subject: Free Clara Harris! Dear Mr. Farah, I think your stance is sickening and extremely sexist. I know you said in your article that this should serve as a warning to all other men and women, but I'll bet you wouldn't advocate the killing of women who cheat on their husbands. If I'm wrong, prove it! Say so in a subsequent article within the next few days! I dare you. Double dare you! Triple dare you! You're very, very sexist!!! Sincerely, Signed I got no reply and didn't see a follow-up article on the WND website addressing my challenge. What a surprise!!!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
True to form, the shitheel didn't answer it.
Because he couldn't.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
How can you possibly excuse her for what she has done? No one has a right to take a life. David Harris may have been an adulterer but that does not give anyone the right to kill him. If the shoe was on the foot, and he had killed HER for adultery, everyone would brand him a savage and call for his execution, and no one would shed a tear. As far as this idea that there is no punishment for adultery, that does not hold water, unless you are a woman. The divorce courts almost always favor women, granting them alimony and child support and custody and half the man's property. For a man to get ANY of that is rare.
For you to say she should be released and given a medal is for you to say that it's alright for a woman to take a man's life if he cheats on her. Do you feel the reverse is true? If I walk in on my wife while she's banging the mailman, and I shoot her dead, will you rally to my aid and demand that I be released and pin a medal on my chest?
You know, the Romans didn't have much respect for life, and even they didn't kill adulterers. They punished them with anal sex, but they did not kill them. Killing adulterers is something you only see in countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. If that is your idea of an ideal society, Saudi Arabia is hiring RIGHT NOW and offers many benefits for expatriate workers!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Wednesday February 12, @01:06PM EST (#19)
|
|
|
|
|
Did anyone get an answer to a complaint by e-mail?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Thursday February 13, @03:37AM EST (#25)
|
|
|
|
|
A date with OJ sounds like the only thing she deserves. She needs to be PUT TO DEATH.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Perhaps the most powerful witness was David Harris' daughter, 17-year-old Lindsey Harris, who was in the Mercedes with her stepmother.
"She stepped on the accelerator and went straight for him," Lindsey Harris told jurors. "He was really scared. He was trying to get away and he couldn't."
The teenager said she never thought her stepmother would act on a comment that she could kill David Harris and get away with it. She said her stepmother made the remark just after finding him with Bridges.
I think the above line is telling... and is a good illustration of what feminism has wroght. This woman believed all she needed to do is shed a few tears, stomp her foot and say "well he hurt my feelings" and she'd walk away from a premeditated murder. The funny thing is that I'm surprised it didn't work.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
>
Poor kid. She probably is beating herself up (inside) because of her underestimation of her stepmother's ability to murder.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Thursday February 13, @12:35PM EST (#27)
|
|
|
|
|
There's no excuse for domestic violence. Her power, control and battering abuse are ended. I hope this sends a clear message to all the radical feminists that women commit horrible domestic violence against men and that it must end.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Did I just hear correctly? This is Clara's wedding anniversary? Valentine's Day.
Gives new question to V-Day being Victory Day or not.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
V-Day: The day a woman was finally held accountable for her murderous domestic violence.
Let's tell it to all the fembots.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
by Anonymous User on Saturday February 15, @11:10PM EST (#37)
|
|
|
|
|
Clara Harris ran over the wrong person.She should have run over the whore he was banging.Actually,she should have run them both over.Hang in there Clara,you will prevail.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| |
[an error occurred while processing this directive]
|
