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Anonymous Sperm Donation Damaging
posted by D on Monday February 03, @12:04PM
from the Reproductive-Rights dept.
Reproductive Rights westcoast writes "There is movement to remove the anonimity of sperm donors... It occured to me that if Mother's commit Paternity Fraud then this may challenge the idea of 'In the best interests of the child' raised when DNA tests show a Man is not the real father. Is it possible to argue that Paternity Fraud and Sperm donation are similar? From the BBC news coverage.... "Those who favour change argue that children born as a result of donor insemination can be psychologically damaged by discovering in later life that they will never know their biological father." Of course in Paternity Fraud they can know their biological father, if the Mother reveals it and puts an end to the Fraud."

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Let's figure it for what it really is (Score:1)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Monday February 03, @04:34PM EST (#1)
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Long down the line, some woman who has decided it's her "personal choice" to be a mother without needing a man, may want a few extra bucks. And what better way to get it than have daddy already on file?

Boycott Sperm Banks. Support the Sperm Cartel.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
psychologically damaging? (Score:1)
by Smoking Drive (homoascendens@ivillage.com) on Monday February 03, @05:31PM EST (#2)
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I don't see why not knowing your biological father is psychologically damaging, but if it is then women who commit paternity fraud are at least risking psychologically damaging their children. If efforts to prevent women's partners from DNA testing their putative children are successful, then no-one will be sure if they know their biological father or not and, if the anti-anonymity people are correct, will therefore be psychologically damaged.

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sd

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Donating Sperm (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Monday February 03, @06:18PM EST (#3)
I will never donate sperm and I encourage everybody to do the same.

They will eventually find a way to know the name of the person who donated the sperm and once they know.... he'll pay. There's NO doubt about it.
Re:Donating Sperm (Score:1)
by jll1024 on Monday February 03, @06:21PM EST (#4)
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I'll never donate sperm because I'll never want to contribute to the number of children who won't grow up with their fathers.
Josh
Re:Donating Sperm (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Monday February 03, @07:26PM EST (#6)
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Do sperm donators gain a financial sum for donating sperm?
Re:Donating Sperm (Score:1)
by Dittohd on Monday February 03, @11:33PM EST (#8)
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Is that a rhetorical question? If not, yes, of course they do.
Re:Donating Sperm (Score:1)
by Smoking Drive (homoascendens@ivillage.com) on Monday February 03, @11:40PM EST (#9)
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In aus they are paid a token amount like about $40 which is supposed to cover their taxi fares to and from the clinic. This is in the principle that donors shouldn't be paid, only compensated for their expenses.

Doubtless some deadbeats consider it worth their while to walk to the clinic and pocket the $40.

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sd

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Re:Donating Sperm (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday February 04, @01:16AM EST (#11)
"Doubtless some deadbeats consider it worth their while to walk to the clinic and pocket the $40."

O.K. now you've really gone and done it. You've really stepped on my toes. "DEADBEAT MASTURBATORS," I'm sure the day is not too far away when we'll be hearing about deadbeat erections and deadbeat ejaculators. Is everything that is related to male sexuality to be scorned?

Just kidding, selling your seed to get some money is really tacky, espeically for such a paltry sum. I have to go now, and sell a pint of blood so I can go buy some wine and come back here and whine some more.

Cheers, deadbeat, dead on, and delerious
Thanks (Score:1)
by Lorianne on Monday February 03, @09:24PM EST (#7)
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Your post hits upon the crux of the matter.
Re:Donating Sperm (Score:1)
by Smoking Drive (homoascendens@ivillage.com) on Monday February 03, @11:44PM EST (#10)
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I'll never donate sperm because I'll never want to contribute to the number of children who won't grow up with their fathers.

That's very noble of you Josh, but the way the law works you could just as well say "I'll never impregnate a woman because I'll never want to contribute to the number of children who won't grow up with their fathers."

Just because you happen to be married to the woman you "donate" to doesn't mean the child wont grow up without a father.

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sd

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Re:Donating Sperm (Score:1)
by jll1024 on Tuesday February 04, @10:28AM EST (#13)
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For specific cases, you do have a point.

Still, if I impregnate a woman, and my child is forced grow up without a father, it wouldn't be because I chose it to happen that way.

On the other hand, if I give away my sperm so that it could be used however the hell any given woman wants it to be used, I will have chosen to let that woman rear the child without a father, assuming this woman chose to raise the child fatherless.

This was my point.
Josh
Sperm donation/Paternity Fraud (Score:1)
by dave100254 on Monday February 03, @06:52PM EST (#5)
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The only problem with this is that politicians would rather have women dependant on the govermental system so that they are insured that they will vote a certain way. The only problem with that is that someone has to pay, ie. the subjagation of the male. Males have just as much right to their children as women, or at least that is the way it should be. If a male sells his sperm, he is giving up any rights, as well as the female while purchasing said sperm is giving up any right to know who the biological father is. Lawyers, and government would be the only benifactors of allowing the tracing of sperm donors. The politicians that push these gender biased laws should be made to support the women that give up their freedom, and the children that are raised to have their hands out.
Genetically Inherited Diseases (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday February 04, @01:32AM EST (#12)
One of the main reasons people are pushing for the removal of anonymity from the sperm donor is so that the donor's medical history is known. Certain disease predispostions in the Father or Mother would be information that could be valuable to the off spring in maintaining his/her health.

If this arguement stands, then the logical next step to take is too assume that any woman committing paternity fraud and withholding the true identity of the biological father is endangering the life of her child and is guilty of child abuse as well as paternity fraud.

We may someday see the children, who have been deprived of all knowledge of the biological father by the defrauding mother, suing the defrauding mother for damages caused to their (the children's) health, because of the witholding of "family medical history."

Ray
Re:Genetically Inherited Diseases (Score:1)
by Smoking Drive (homoascendens@ivillage.com) on Tuesday February 04, @05:30PM EST (#14)
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One of the main reasons people are pushing for the removal of anonymity from the sperm donor is so that the donor's medical history is known. Certain
                                                    disease predispostions in the Father or Mother would be information that could be valuable to the off spring in maintaining his/her health.


If a person wants to know about his genetic make-up he can have a DNA sample taken. All my genes are in me. Some of them are in my father or mother too, but the ones that are in my father or mother and not me are none of my concern.

It's true that our understanding of DNA is limited and sometimes disease predispositions are still predicted from the disease histories of relatives, but that can never be exact. Not only parents are used in such family histories, but aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. Do I have a right to know not only who my father is but who my father's father is and so on?

More importantly, the donor's medical history is, I thought, private. Are they also planning to remove the privacy of parents' medical records?

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sd

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