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This should serve as a lesson for all men in relationships,
Always have tape...,
Thundercloud.
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Always have tape? You're kidding, right? We're talking about marriage, right? Sounds good, but is it really practical? Who can have tape running at all the needed moments... without her knowing it?
I still say ditch American women, period. They're just not worth it. Look to other countries where the rules and attitudes of the women are different. That's our only really effective defense and solution until the laws and attitudes here in America change completely. And I have a feeling I'll be long gone before enough of a change to suit me comes to pass.
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No, I don't mean have a video camera running all the time.
In my own expirience in a few relationships, my girlfriend-at-the-time, was nice enough, at first, but as time went on, that "niceness" melted away and gave way to, first aggressive behavior, begining with snide comments, then insults and hateful comments, then secondly she became violent. hitting me in front of my freinds at times. It got to the point she was strikeing me everyday, at the drop of a hat.
It would be at a point like this when a man who is being abused by a wife or girlfriend should set up the camcorder and document his abusers actions. At what time during the day or night, would have to be, of course, a time when his abuser was at work or asleep. Or if she does not live with him, that would make it all the easier to keep a camera hidden and catch her in the act when she came over for visits.
But like you say, dittohd, In a marriage it would be much more difficult to conceal a camera.
But apearantly, it can be done, as the "Busted" documentary illustrates. The guy in the documentary caught his live-in girlfriend in the act, that way. I guess he just had to know when the right time was to start recording her actions.
I'd say that is the case for ANY abused person.
Oh, and as far as MY abuseive girlfreind is conserned, Yeah, I waited to see if things would get better, they didn't and I did eventualy leave her.
I also agree with you on "American women".
I personaly won't have anything to do with them, relationship-wise. (For the obvious reasons.)
Thundercloud.
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Thundercloud,
Where do you find your women? Do you live here in the states? Do you travel to other countries? If so, which ones, which do you prefer and why?
Dittohd
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Well, I don't bother looking for them, anymore. But when I did I would find them (women)any place I might be liveing at the time. Chicago, North Carolina, Arizona, Oklahoma, and finaly Indianapolis, where I've settled.
I've never been to another country, however.
'Which ones do I prefer'?
Being that I'm Indian, one would probably expect that I'd say, 'I prefer Indian women.' And sometimes, I guess that's the case. But Indian women, these days are too much like most other American women. They've always male-bashed a little, but now-a-days it's all most of them ever do. (not all but TOO many.)
White women and black women, while I'm attracted to them physicaly, have that "Attitude" thing happening, generaly speaking. And I've found them to be more likely to be emotionaly and physicaly abuseive. This is a cultureal thing more than it is an ethnic thing. As Indian women become more 'aculturated' with American feminism the more they have begun to behave like other American women. (Just thought I'd make that clear.)
Most Hispanic women are Indian too, so I won't go in to them.
Asian women, I am VERY attracted to!! I find them intoxicateingly lovely! even the "homely" ones are "cute", in one way or another.
However Asian women are generaly more attracted to White men in this country. Not too much so with American-Indian guys. (even those of us with light skin, like me.) But the few I dated were usually very pleasent to be around. One Japanese girl in particular that I dated, was this way.
I met her in college. She was a Japanese national and not contaminated by American feminazism. She was polite, generous and had a heart the size of texsas. Un-like many American women, she was delighted when you did something nice for her, I.E. open a door for her, or compiment an out-fit she was wearing. even when you DID do something she didn't like she didn't get all bent-out-of-shape about it. She would quietly explain what she didn't like and why she didn't like it.
She was NEVER abuseive, either. Not verbaly, not physicaly. She might tap my arm playfully sometimes, but that doesn't count.
Alas, after she graduated, she went back to Japan.
I never saw her again.
So I guess my rather long-winded ansewer would have to be, that I tend to lean towards Asian women, when I'm a bit fed up with women of my own ethnicity or nationality.
I hope that ansewers your questions, Dittohd.
Thundercloud.
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I watched the trailer for the movie, and it was extremely sad. The one odd thing for me was - it seemed that he was trying to make it seem funny. The combo of the music and voice-over just had a light-hearted tone for such horrible actions. Maybe I'm wrong...?
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by Anonymous User on Saturday December 07, @12:54AM EST (#3)
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I doubt you're wrong. Humor almost always seems to be mixed into the tone of any female-on-male abuse I see in movies, videos or TV.
Marc
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by Anonymous User on Saturday December 07, @01:20AM EST (#4)
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I agree with dcheney that it is a bit disturbing that they make this out to be a "funny" movie, but at the same time, that might get a few more people to see it (rather than only advertising it as a documentary). In the end, this woman is demolished in court because of the video, and she pays for every lie and viscous act. I think people will get the message.
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Actually, the impression I got from listening to the music was that it was making fun of the woman's irrational and hostile behavior.
Steve
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by Anonymous User on Sunday December 08, @07:07PM EST (#13)
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And I reckon that the fact that this lying slag got what's coming to her while the man she tried to destroy is better off than if she had simply let him move on in his own time is fucking hilarious.
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but, regardless of how ugly, regardless of how disturbing, regardless of how evil, I had to laugh...because I've been there.
But hey, she said I 'gave' her all my stuff. Now, what was she going to do with that jockstrap again?
Mitchell A. Smith
"An ambiguous perspective is all you can hope for when initially confronted by that which you do not know."
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by Anonymous User on Saturday December 07, @06:38PM EST (#6)
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I went to jail for ten days with two years probation because I had a violent, then went to the police and fabricated lies to try and destroy me.
By the way, she supplied no real evidence of abuse, gave three different accounts of what supposedly happened (yet the judge called her "credible despite issues in testimony"
A camera would have saved me a lot of problems...
Women can say/do whatever they want without any accountability, make sure you find an honest one.....
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Find an honest American woman? Are you kidding? How do we do that? What are the odds of finding one who isn't going to take advantage of the biased system when child support, alimony, child custody, property splitting and revenge are in the mix, no matter how honest they were beforehand?
Personally, I wouldn't touch an American woman with a 200 yard pole under any circumstance. They're nice to talk with, work with, kid around with, but beyond that.... I met and married a Japanese woman in Japan when in the military over 30 years ago. When I get a divorce, which I'm planning to do very soon, I'm planning to go back either to Japan, the Philippines, or China for wife #2.
The language barrier is a real problem but the difference in attitude makes up for it. Wife #2 will either speak better English or I'll do everything in my power to learn her language. That's probably the better of the two choices (me learning her language) because I expect that will help keep her from all the male-bashing Western influences in English (all throughout the media and American woman friends.
American women are not the only game in town, guys, as much as they'd like to think they are. Too bad more men don't know about this alternative. But then if they did, the American women would start whining and the government would find a way to close this "loophole" too.
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I'm not really sure what to say, other than I do hope and believe my marriage will not fall apart because of my nationality. Probably a good idea to find out your partners views on men's rights, women's rights, whatever, before getting married.
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Exactly, AU,
That's why I often say; 'You can't tell the good women from the bad, without a program.'
(Or untill the divorce, when it is too late.)
Thundercloud.
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While it is true that you can't tell for sure there are some indicators that may help a bit. First, are her parents still married? If yes, this is a good sign. Not an endorsement but a good sign. Next if you get to meet mom and dad watch the way they treat each other. Do they allow each other space, do they listen to each other, do they say kind things to each other? All of these are important but the last is probably the most important. Research has shown that the success of marriages is often pinned on the ratio of positive/negative comments. Successful marriages maintain a 5 to 1 ratio or better of positive statements to negative. For every one negative the spouse says at least 5 positives.
Stand Your Ground Forum
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Tom.
That reminds me of something I've heared, from time to time.
"You can tell how a Man will treat you, by the way he treats his Mother."
I won't argue that point, But why is it I've never heared; "You can tell how a WOMAN will treat you by the way she treats her FATHER."
...I wonder if there's any validity to THAT...?
Hmmm...,
Thundercloud.
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I've heard a variation:
"You can tell how a woman will treat you by how she treats the waiter."
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Good one, BusterB.
And it's probably TRUE!
If I ever do decide to date again, (and I probablt won't.) I'll be sure to watch for that.
TC.
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Whether or not she is a good person, who will never change. Whether or not she is perfect. Remember...
Marriage is a legally binding arrangement that gives the woman everything and the man nothing.
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