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Does anyone have ANY idea on how to stop ultimate erosion of human rights in the form of cruel and unusual punishments? Or will our children have to just remember 2002 as the last year such punishments were not practiced? Surgical castration legislation is also planned by many states.
Given that there was no uproar when other civil liberties were taken, the politicians have a good reason to believe that imposing cruel and unusual punishments would not hurt their public image. How can that process be stopped?
? is a question -- not a proclamation. Can anyone answer?
PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
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Not only that , it comes right in time for when the laws of the UK are working hard to diminish the 'innocent until proven guilty' rule. Which very well means that innocent men will be wearing these chips.
Along with the ever expanding definition of sex crimes it is very likely that a man who made a 'pass' at a woman he liked could also end up wearing a 'chip' underneath his skin and be referred to as a 'sexual predator'.
In the end this will harm both sexes and will give the ultimate power to the state. Sex under all forms will be criminalized.
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*Radical Feminists make Nazis look like Humanitarians.*
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Exactly.
...Exept ONE form of sex will NOT be criminalized.
LESBIAN sex.
TC.
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... how much does a sex change operation cost these days? ;)
[Just so long as it doesn't flip over and gay sex become the only legal form of sex]
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> Not only that , it comes right in time for when
> the laws of the UK are working hard to diminish
> the 'innocent until proven guilty' rule. Which
> very well means that innocent men will be
> wearing these chips.
Have you read my story? It describes society just like that -- set in 2014. A man accused of a sex crime has a guarantee of being convicted and recieving an extremly cruel punishment. In my story (the part I wrote BEFORE these news!) the chips (bracelets) are used inside prison to control inmate violence. But then as in any fiction, the protagonist in my story wins.
Do you think that such fictional society will remain science fiction or become reality?
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"Do you think that such fictional society will remain science fiction or become reality?"
It's looking like it's goint to be a reality, John.
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*Radical Feminists make Nazis look like Humanitarians.*
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> > "Do you think that such fictional society
> > will remain science fiction or become reality?"
> It's looking like it's goint to be a reality, John.
How long do you think we will have to wait until things get better?
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Does anyone have ANY idea on how to stop ultimate erosion of human rights in the form of cruel and unusual
punishments? Or will our children have to just remember 2002 as the last year such punishments were not
practiced?
Well you could appeal to common human decency.
cheers,
sd
Those who like this sort of thing
will find this the sort of thing they like.
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> > Does anyone have ANY idea on how to stop
> > ultimate erosion of human rights in the form
> > of cruel and unusual punishments?
>Well you could appeal to common human decency.
Anything realistic?
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I guess a man -- as we know it will be men who are targeted the most by authorities -- doesn't have the same right of control over his body as a woman does.
I program my home computer; beam myself into the future.
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placing a chip on sex offenders???? (sic)
Can't these authorities seem to leave well enough alone without putting fear in his/her heart that anything erotic you say or do can or will be used againt you in the court of law?
And they thought natural flirting was a no-no!!!!
Emmanuel Matteer Jnr.
Emanslave@aol.com
*****MASCULISM IS A BLACK MALE'S BEST FRIEND!!!!!*****
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(("Can't these authorities seem to leave well enough alone without putting fear in his/her heart that anything erotic you say or do can or will be used against you in a court of law?"))
Actualy, Emmanuel, This sort of thing is done to criminalize MEN and men AlONE!
Notice that women can and DO say anything and everything they want. No matter how bad or vulgar.
When it comes to talking about men, women can say ANYTHING. The more derogitory the better. Women have positively NO "speech codes" imposed on them.
Men, on the other hand are smothered with "Speech codes."
In the work-place, if a man so much as tells a woman; "you look nice today!" He can be slapped with a sex-discrimination/harassment law-suit! But I have NEVER heard of a woman being repremanded for the SAME conduct.
Also in the work place women can tell anti-male jokes all they want, no matter how de-humainizeing or de-baseing to men those "jokes" may be.
But if a MAN were to do that...,
To put it in a 'nut-shell', A man seen hugging his son, in public will likely be labled a "sex-offender" and be the recipiant of this insideous "chip". But a woman who has all-out sexual relations with an under-age boy, ala Marry Kay Latournoe(SP?) will NOT!
THAT is how bad it is getting. and it will only get WORSE!
What we are seeing today, is an all-out effort to criminalize male sexuality.
Soon, it will probably be illegal to simply be a MAN.
I can just see it now...; Me and a buddy are walking down the street when the cops stop us and arrest us. Me, on one count of being a MAN. and my buddy on one count of being an accessory to being a MAN!
Anyone who cannot see the parallels to what happened to the Jews in Nazi Germany, what happened to my people (Indians) in this country and Canada, and what is happening now to men in general, is either blind, stupid or a feminist.
TC.
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At one point the US government imposed a law on a particular Indian reservation that said that the natives had to drink whiskey and drive Ford Model-T cars up and down the streets...
These days, the US government forces men to pay money to DV shelters that refuse aide to men...
Thundercloud has a damn good point.
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www.angryharry.com claims that there have been sexual harrasment claims against women.
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I refer you to an apocalytic and Orwellian medical thriller by Isi Beller titled "Sacred Fire" published in 1990 by Arcade publishing.
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
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Moderate me if you like guys, but the more I read about this stuff, this and the presumption of guilt in the UK, the more I become convinced that things will not change without gunfire and bloodshed. Assuming of course, that the feminists don't manage to take away our guns first!
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frank h wrote
> Moderate me if you like guys, but the more I
> read about this stuff, this and the presumption
> of guilt in the UK, the more I become convinced
> that things will not change without gunfire
> and bloodshed.
I disagree 100% with any use of violence in REAL life. Nevertheless, I wrote a fictional drama set in 2014 where a man kills a powerful misandrist media person in Canada in order to avoid being jailed on false rape charges in Louisiana.
The story is below.
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#1: The implant doesn't measure sexual arousal, it measures nervousness and fear. If someone beats off it shouldn't sound any alarms. However, nervousness and fear are probably natural in the life of an ex-con whose neighbors know what they've done. And that leads to #2...
#2: It'll be the sex offenders first, and who will it be after that? History has shown that governments always use the extreme actions of a few outliers (i.e. a tiny portion of the population) to justify outrages against the populace as a whole. So first it'll be the sex offenders. Then it'll be all people classed as violent criminals, such as murderers and street fighters. Then it'll be non-violent offenders as well, at which point EVERYONE leaving prison will be tagged with something that watches them for nervousness/fear.
A while after that happens, someone who hasn't been to prison and thus isn't tagged will harm someone else, and that person will start a movement to get all people in a certain class (i.e. newborns) tagged. Those already born won't care as it doesn't affect them - "I'm alright, Jack," they'll say. And for parents, they'll sell these microchips as a way to keep track of their children.
And so eventually the whole entire society will be carrying around electronic tracking devices. And these microchips won't just broadcast nervousness/fear, they'll broadcast every biometric possible.
Somewhere along the line they'll design these chips so that they can be implanted at the base of the skull or someplace like that, and they'll be set up so that they can knock a person out on a remote command.
You think this shit won't happen? Just watch. England has already largely disarmed its citizens, which is an extremely popular early-game move by dictators and wannabe emperors. Hitler did it to Germany and Kofi Annan (head of the United Nations) wants the same for all countries that are a part of the UN. I predict that Earth society as a whole will be very 1984-ish in less than 100 years.
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That's about the most articulate response I can muster to this proposal. Rather reminds me of the electro-shocking v-chip in Cartman's head. How long before someone figured that'd be a good idea for former sex offenders as well?
[Note: Why is it people are okay with making sex offenders continue to have miserable, monitored, haunted lives - but any other kind of criminal is okay?]
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