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Man Arrested For Self-Defense
posted by Thomas on Friday November 15, @09:45PM
from the Domestic-Violence dept.
Domestic Violence Anthony Davis was almost killed in a knife attack by his ex-girlfriend. His defense is that he defended himself by punching his assailant. She got black eyes; he almost died; he was arrested. Read about it here.

Source: www.channel3000.com

Title: Defense: Badger Running Back Almost Killed In Attack Davis Wants Charges Against Him Dropped

Date: November 15, 2002

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What Rights Are Women Denied? (Score:2)
by Thomas on Friday November 15, @10:09PM EST (#1)
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When I repeatedly see this sort of thing, I'm reminded of how often men are denied their rights. It makes me ask myself a question.

Women, who try to distance themselves from radical feminism while still calling themselves feminists, claim that they are feminists because women are denied rights.

So I'm wondering: What rights, if any, are women denied in the US?
Re:What Rights Are Women Denied? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday November 16, @10:19AM EST (#3)
When I repeatedly see this sort of thing, I'm reminded of how often men are denied their rights.

I had a horrible nightmare some time back that I was arrested for defending myself. In the dream, someone tried to kick me in the groin. Acting quickly, I grabbed their foot and pushed it upward, making them fall on their back. In my dream, the person hurt their spine and had me jailed for assault.

It could happen to anyone, and not just in dreams. These are bad days.

Jack Implant

Re:What Rights Are Women Denied? (Score:2)
by Thomas on Saturday November 16, @12:01PM EST (#4)
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Sounds like a pretty bad dream, Jack.

Since you use gender neutral language in your post, though, I'll point out that your chances of being able to defend yourself from a man of any size, and not be arrested, are far greater than your chances of defending yourself from a woman, and not being arrested.
SELF DEFENSE CLASSES FOR MALE D.V. VICTIMS (Score:1)
by Ray on Saturday November 16, @03:27AM EST (#2)
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Where are all the classes to train men how to defend themselves from the attacks of violent females? Oh, that's right there aren't any. If any man defends himself from a vicious, violent and savage attack by a female, due to his superior strength, he must automatically be arrested no matter who the provocateur was or no matter who was the most seriously injured.

I wrote a letter to dvmen.org in Colorado asking, "How can a man legally defend himself from a D.V. attack?" In a nutshell the answer was, "Run away, and hope for the best."

I can tell you from personal experience that even when you do that females still produce bruises that you've never caused or seen that are weeks old. They file a blatantly false police report saying it happened that evening and instead of them going off to jail it's you instead, because that's how the Nazi's who make up our police departments work. Their too stupid or crooked to know or care about the physiological chronology of bruising, and the crummy photographs they take could probably more skillfully have been taken by a kindergarten student. But vague is too the advantage of the crooked cop, when you want to con someone. All you have to do is write your standard, "He's a battering man" report and the rest is automatic." The whole system is so feminazified it's like an assembly line that you can't turn off or you'll interfere with the production that gets the money to con more innocent men.

"Police are hero's," that's B.S. The way they enforce D.V. laws proves beyond any doubt that they are the lowest scum on the street and deserving of no ones respect or support. They are lower than common criminals. They are cons and racketeers plying their corrupt trade under color of law.

This is just one more story showing conclusively that our police are nothing more to men than gender profiling bigots, societal parasites and outlaws. Maybe police in other geographic areas aren't as "bad" as we know they are here in Los Angeles, but I tend to have my doubts about that based on the large volume of information I've read to the contrary.
Ray
Re:SELF DEFENSE CLASSES FOR MALE D.V. VICTIMS (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday November 17, @11:38AM EST (#5)

"I can tell you from personal experience that even when you do that females still produce bruises that you've never caused or seen that are weeks old. They file a blatantly false police report saying it happened that evening and instead of them going off to jail it's you instead, because that's how the Nazi's who make up our police departments work."

This is soooo true. This is what my sicko ex did to me! The pictures on her legs were so dark, that it looked like she was wearing black nylon stockings, and this was admitted as evidence of abuse committed by me??!!!

I have talked about what happened to me with other people. One woman mentioned that when she got a restraining order against her boyfriend, they put her in contact with a feminist victim advocate and this woman explained to her that if she could provide any mark on her body (any at all)they will photograph it and provide it as evidence if she wants to lock the man up.

what the f*ck is going on in this country? When did by virtue of being a woman give you the right to determine if someone should go to jail or not because of relationship discord?

Evidentiary proceedings are becoming a joke. The woman can say and lie about everything, and you as a man have to sit and take whatever the judge decides that day... in my case, I sat in jail for over ten days waiting for bail to be set. My ex's proof - a faded bruise about the size of a dime, and her excellent acting that she was afraid of me????


Re:SELF DEFENSE CLASSES FOR MALE D.V. VICTIMS (Score:1)
by Thundercloud on Monday November 18, @02:19AM EST (#6)
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Okay. If it's against the so-called "law" for a man to defend himself from a violent woman, because the woman is "smaller and not as strong",
How come it's not "illegal" for a larger man to defend himself from a smaller, less strong man?

I think that's a rhetorical question, right?

      TC.
Re:SELF DEFENSE CLASSES FOR MALE D.V. VICTIMS (Score:1)
by Tom on Monday November 18, @09:45AM EST (#7)
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Very good point TC. It points clearly to sexism.


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COPS ARE POND SCUM (Score:2)
by Luek on Monday November 18, @12:33PM EST (#9)
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"Police are hero's," that's B.S. The way they enforce D.V. laws proves beyond any doubt that they are the lowest scum on the street and deserving of no ones respect or support. They are lower than common criminals. They are cons and racketeers plying their corrupt trade under color of law."

I came to this conclusion some time ago. Glad to see I am not the only one with this viewpoint of cops. I guess it is a by product of shipping all of our dumbhead production line jobs overseas to Asia and South America. If these low skill level no brainer production line jobs were still here then these cops would more than likely be doing those menial skilled tasks. But these dumbass jobs were shipped out and that is why they are on the police force. THE PROBLEM IS TOO MANY COPS!

Re:COPS ARE POND SCUM (Score:1)
by Ragtime (ragtimeNOSPAM@PLEASEmensrights.ca) on Monday November 18, @01:49PM EST (#10)
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Warble, Luek,

Yeah, there's problems, serious ones, with anti-male law-enforcement but, with all due respect, you're off-base here and, Warble, your comments are way over the top.

The sweeping generalization that "COPS ARE POND SCUM" is no better than a pheminist crying 'All men are scum!" And such radical, extremist ravings do nothing to help our cause.

I live in Ontario, the World Capitol of Misandry, and I have some freinds who are cops. They are decent people who care, are WAY more aware than you give them credit for, and are TRYING to work within the system.

They are most certainly NOT "the lowest scum on the street" or "lower than common criminals."

One has been screwed over by the same legal steamroller that has harmed so many other Ontario men.

Believe me, it ain't NEARLY so simple as you say.

I readily agree that law enforecement, and the pheminist propoganda that dictates to it, is an area of profound concern to the cause of men's rights, but take care not to alienate those who would be valuable allies. And be expecially careful not to tar the good with the same brush as the bad.

Ragtime

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The opinions expressed above are my own, but you're welcome to adopt them.

Re:COPS ARE POND SCUM (Score:1)
by Ragtime (ragtimeNOSPAM@PLEASEmensrights.ca) on Monday November 18, @01:54PM EST (#11)
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CORRECTION.

In the post above, I attributed to Warble comments that were made by Ray. I apologise for the error.

Ragtime

The Uppity Wallet

The opinions expressed above are my own, but you're welcome to adopt them.

Subtle but Compelling (Score:1)
by Agraitear on Monday November 18, @10:24AM EST (#8)
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Did anyone else notice the pictures shown in the article. The one of Anthony Davis is obviously a staged promotional type shot. While the photo of Tiffany Spears shows her black eyes.

This is again the subtle bias in the media to "construct" the appropiate victim. No attempt was made at all to show Mr. Davis's injuries.

"He's a man, they don't really count." is the subtext.

"Tried by twelve, or carried by six" that is the choice anymore.

Agraitear
Two things (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Monday November 18, @03:57PM EST (#12)
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One, the title of this article is absolutely incorrect. The woman was arrested, the man was not. He had to go to court to explain his side, but the latest info from Channel 3000's web site said he was recovering "at home."

Two, I can't speak for other states but in California the law is that you can use as much force as is necessary to stop an attack, but you can't go beyond that. Any injury seen as "punitive" by the court is a big red checkmark against you.

For example, I was told of the case of a woman who went to jail for overzealous self-defense. She had some martial arts training, and one night while she was at a nightclub, a man grabbed her crotch. What she SHOULD have done was to apply enough force to get him off of her, but what she DID do was break his leg. So she went to jail, because what she did was punitive.

Speaking of martial arts, NEVER unnecessarily tell people you're into it. It can be used against you in court!
Re:Two things (Score:2)
by Thomas on Monday November 18, @08:43PM EST (#13)
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the title of this article is absolutely incorrect. The woman was arrested, the man was not.

Check the linked articles at the bottom of the piece. See especially this article. You'll find that the man, Anthony Davis, was arrested for misdemeanor battery, and he is fighting to have the charges against him dropped.
Self-defense for males (Score:1)
by Tony (MensRights@attbi.com) on Tuesday November 19, @06:02AM EST (#14)
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Grin and bare it.
Tony
Re:Two things (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Tuesday November 19, @03:29PM EST (#15)
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Ohhh nonononono. It said he was CHARGED with it and was due in court. He was probably released on his own recognisance, since he had to heal up from the stab wounds anyway. It doesn't say anywhere that he was actually detained.
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